Antrim Football Thread

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Hoof Hearted

Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 08, 2026, 12:21:11 PMOf St Pauls, Moneyglass and Sarsfields it was only St Pauls who showed anything at all in the group games. But in all honesty the 3 of them should be relegated along with Tir Na Nog (who are down already) to try and improve the standard a bit.

Let's be honest and add glenravel  to the list, Dunloy done them a massive turn on Saturday  which nobody seems to be questioning.


Even a glenravel defeat was still putting Tir Na Nog in 4th spot.
Unless it was a tanking.

AllStar15

Everyone outside of Cargin, Creggan, Brides, Dunloy, Galls, PG1 and possibly Aghagallon are close to the same level.

That group outside of the clubs above are closer to the top of div 2 than they are challenging any of those ^ clubs, bar a freak result.

thegladiator

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2026, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 08, 2026, 12:21:11 PMOf St Pauls, Moneyglass and Sarsfields it was only St Pauls who showed anything at all in the group games. But in all honesty the 3 of them should be relegated along with Tir Na Nog (who are down already) to try and improve the standard a bit.

Let's be honest and add glenravel  to the list, Dunloy done them a massive turn on Saturday  which nobody seems to be questioning.


Even a glenravel defeat was still putting Tir Na Nog in 4th spot.
Unless it was a tanking.

That's not in dispute, but a gimme win from Dunloy  shouldn't remove glenravel from any potential conversation about getting chopped down to intermediate. They finished below St Paul's in the league and just above us, so they aren't exactly  flying high and Dunloy throwing a match doesn't change that

NorthAntrimSaff

Quote from: AllStar15 on September 08, 2026, 04:51:25 PMEveryone outside of Cargin, Creggan, Brides, Dunloy, Galls, PG1 and possibly Aghagallon are close to the same level.

That group outside of the clubs above are closer to the top of div 2 than they are challenging any of those ^ clubs, bar a freak result.

Not sure St Johns would agree with that one

Around the glens

Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 03:21:13 PMWhat is there to question? Playing week in week out, finished top job was done, why not limit the risk of injuries?

Might be better to ask the bookies about what's to be questioned. But the point stands that glenravel should be included in the group of teams to face the chop EOC has suggested (and i agree with him on the point), Dunloy gifting them a win shouldn't mask their deficiencies at this level.
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Think before you speak, there wasn't even a market on the dunloy glenravel game 🤷

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2026, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 08, 2026, 12:21:11 PMOf St Pauls, Moneyglass and Sarsfields it was only St Pauls who showed anything at all in the group games. But in all honesty the 3 of them should be relegated along with Tir Na Nog (who are down already) to try and improve the standard a bit.

Let's be honest and add glenravel  to the list, Dunloy done them a massive turn on Saturday  which nobody seems to be questioning.


Even a glenravel defeat was still putting Tir Na Nog in 4th spot.
Unless it was a tanking.

That's not in dispute, but a gimme win from Dunloy  shouldn't remove glenravel from any potential conversation about getting chopped down to intermediate. They finished below St Paul's in the league and just above us, so they aren't exactly  flying high and Dunloy throwing a match doesn't change that

League and championship 2 different animals, as EVERYONE on here agrees(for a change)
So Glenravel struggled in the league, that's fair enough
They upped it for the championship and got 3 points so they stay up on merit.

paddyjohn

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2026, 06:12:24 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2026, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 08, 2026, 12:21:11 PMOf St Pauls, Moneyglass and Sarsfields it was only St Pauls who showed anything at all in the group games. But in all honesty the 3 of them should be relegated along with Tir Na Nog (who are down already) to try and improve the standard a bit.

Let's be honest and add glenravel  to the list, Dunloy done them a massive turn on Saturday  which nobody seems to be questioning.


Even a glenravel defeat was still putting Tir Na Nog in 4th spot.
Unless it was a tanking.

That's not in dispute, but a gimme win from Dunloy  shouldn't remove glenravel from any potential conversation about getting chopped down to intermediate. They finished below St Paul's in the league and just above us, so they aren't exactly  flying high and Dunloy throwing a match doesn't change that

League and championship 2 different animals, as EVERYONE on here agrees(for a change)
So Glenravel struggled in the league, that's fair enough
They upped it for the championship and got 3 points so they stay up on merit.

Glenravel struggled in the league because they had Ryan McQuillan, Cathal Hynds & Niall Hynds with the county seniors and Un20s. Cormac McKeown was with the senior hurlers also. Take those 4 out of that set up and of course they'll struggle.

thegladiator

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2026, 06:12:24 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2026, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 08, 2026, 12:21:11 PMOf St Pauls, Moneyglass and Sarsfields it was only St Pauls who showed anything at all in the group games. But in all honesty the 3 of them should be relegated along with Tir Na Nog (who are down already) to try and improve the standard a bit.

Let's be honest and add glenravel  to the list, Dunloy done them a massive turn on Saturday  which nobody seems to be questioning.


Even a glenravel defeat was still putting Tir Na Nog in 4th spot.
Unless it was a tanking.

That's not in dispute, but a gimme win from Dunloy  shouldn't remove glenravel from any potential conversation about getting chopped down to intermediate. They finished below St Paul's in the league and just above us, so they aren't exactly  flying high and Dunloy throwing a match doesn't change that

League and championship 2 different animals, as EVERYONE on here agrees(for a change)
So Glenravel struggled in the league, that's fair enough
They upped it for the championship and got 3 points so they stay up on merit.
Upped it for championship is a bit of a stretch when Dunloy threw the game or "protected players"- call it what you want, but I expected  better from them as county champions, but at least someone got a few quid from the bookies. It just reinforces the mess that we have gotten ourselves  into with this current league & championship format.

Around the glens

Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2026, 06:12:24 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2026, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 08, 2026, 12:21:11 PMOf St Pauls, Moneyglass and Sarsfields it was only St Pauls who showed anything at all in the group games. But in all honesty the 3 of them should be relegated along with Tir Na Nog (who are down already) to try and improve the standard a bit.

Let's be honest and add glenravel  to the list, Dunloy done them a massive turn on Saturday  which nobody seems to be questioning.


Even a glenravel defeat was still putting Tir Na Nog in 4th spot.
Unless it was a tanking.

That's not in dispute, but a gimme win from Dunloy  shouldn't remove glenravel from any potential conversation about getting chopped down to intermediate. They finished below St Paul's in the league and just above us, so they aren't exactly  flying high and Dunloy throwing a match doesn't change that

League and championship 2 different animals, as EVERYONE on here agrees(for a change)
So Glenravel struggled in the league, that's fair enough
They upped it for the championship and got 3 points so they stay up on merit.
Upped it for championship is a bit of a stretch when Dunloy threw the game or "protected players"- call it what you want, but I expected  better from them as county champions, but at least someone got a few quid from the bookies. It just reinforces the mess that we have gotten ourselves  into with this current league & championship format.

What odds where glenravel may I ask since your so sure about people making a pound? Back up your chat with facts. 🤷

thegladiator

 
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What odds where glenravel may I ask since your so sure about people making a pound? Back up your chat with facts. 🤷
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Glenravel 4/1 favourites at a point and Game taken off boylesports.
If it walks like a duck etc etc etc

bannside

Lol...this is funny.

4/1 on Glenravel or 4/1 against Glenravel?


Antrim

Cargin in everyone's eyes will be big favourites for Championship and have a point to prove after last year's football lesson from Dunloy. 3 from 3 in the group of death.

St John's motoring nicely. They've clearly benefited from McBride not being involved in the county set up this year. Would be good for Belfast to see them make a break through. A few hot heads in their team though who are capable of seeing red... ahem.... the quinns!

St Brides will flatter to deceive as usual. They dont have the spine.

Portglenone I think will do it this year. Big scoring threats. Big 2 point talents. Minor champions last year. They've a great chance.

Dunloy 3rd favourites for me. Their pace and ability from outside the big arc Will see them there or thereabouts.

Everyone else are also rans.


In the intermediate, has to be St Endas to lose although they only beat Glenavy by a couple. Loads of quality and experience. They cant really win. Win and they should have won it. Lose and they're hot favourites and arguably too good for it who choked to lesser teams. I can see the Aldergrove lads winning it if its not Endas. Nobody else in the race for me.

Junior... couldn't tell you but I hope its a good one. Rasharkin favourites for that?

paddyjohn

Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2026, 06:12:24 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2026, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: thegladiator on September 08, 2026, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on September 08, 2026, 12:21:11 PMOf St Pauls, Moneyglass and Sarsfields it was only St Pauls who showed anything at all in the group games. But in all honesty the 3 of them should be relegated along with Tir Na Nog (who are down already) to try and improve the standard a bit.

Let's be honest and add glenravel  to the list, Dunloy done them a massive turn on Saturday  which nobody seems to be questioning.


Even a glenravel defeat was still putting Tir Na Nog in 4th spot.
Unless it was a tanking.

That's not in dispute, but a gimme win from Dunloy  shouldn't remove glenravel from any potential conversation about getting chopped down to intermediate. They finished below St Paul's in the league and just above us, so they aren't exactly  flying high and Dunloy throwing a match doesn't change that

League and championship 2 different animals, as EVERYONE on here agrees(for a change)
So Glenravel struggled in the league, that's fair enough
They upped it for the championship and got 3 points so they stay up on merit.
Upped it for championship is a bit of a stretch when Dunloy threw the game or "protected players"- call it what you want, but I expected  better from them as county champions, but at least someone got a few quid from the bookies. It just reinforces the mess that we have gotten ourselves  into with this current league & championship format.

I sense a little bit of jealousy here with you and the Glenravel men.

You enjoy the relegation play off and I'll enjoy watching my club and your parish men in the quarter final.

thegladiator


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I sense a little bit of jealousy here with you and the Glenravel men.

You enjoy the relegation play off and I'll enjoy watching my club and your parish men in the quarter final.
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Honestly, no jealousy at all on my part. I was just responding to EOC's proposal and pointing out that there were other teams at the same level as us, TNN, moneyglass  & St Paul's, but got gifted a handy win which covered their true level. This season was always going to be very very difficult for us, so to be still in there  with a chance of staying up after the league phase is an achievement in itself with us favourites to go down via the league before it started. unfortunately we got a difficult  championship draw, but that's what can happen so no complaints  on that front.
I'll happily enjoy supporting my club at the playoffs, we've nothing to lose and everything to gain. Success  is different  things to different people, if we survive, that would be like winning a championship for us going forward.

Hoof Hearted

Cargin v creggan Friday 18th at 7.30
Johns v Brides Saturday 19th at 5.00
Portglenone v Rossa Sunday 20th at 1.15
Dunloy v Ld Sunday 20th at 4.30

Only venue I see is the Saturday game at LD