Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[marty34]

If the SF Bill (or stunt) had been passed would that make Ireland united???

Would it not be better to make a start on the groundwork rather than voting against it over lets face it bullshit party politics.

Mehole and Co. aren't  going to  vote themselves out of existence, hence their  continual  foot-dragging on any preparation for a united Ireland.

Party before country.

Aaaahhh...but....but...the time must be right.

Fair play to SF to get the ball rolling on this. Shows up FFG big time. 

FFG - totally West brits.

#therepublicanparty   

[JPGJOHNNYG]

FG ridiculous as it is are doing a lot more for a UI than FF FFS. Varadkar speaks well on the matter these days too, shame he did f**k all when he was actually in a position to do something

[Rossfan]

If the SF Bill (or stunt) had been passed would that make Ireland united???

Would it not be better to make a start on the groundwork rather than voting against it over lets face it bullshit party politics.

Mehole and Co. aren't  going to  vote themselves out of existence, hence their  continual  foot-dragging on any preparation for a united Ireland.

Party before country.

Is the new Ireland going to be a 1 Party State?

[DaleCooper]

Sinn Fein are nationalists?

As bad as they are at least they didn't just vote against an Irish Unity bill.

Mehole is a disgrace

He has bigger fish to fry in Europe, the ultimate destination for any UI

[AustinPowers]

FG ridiculous as it is are doing a lot more for a UI than FF FFS. Varadkar speaks well on the matter these days too, shame he did f**k all when he was actually in a position to do something

Like I said, party  before country.

[AustinPowers]

If the SF Bill (or stunt) had been passed would that make Ireland united???

Would it not be better to make a start on the groundwork rather than voting against it over lets face it bullshit party politics.

Mehole and Co. aren't  going to  vote themselves out of existence, hence their  continual  foot-dragging on any preparation for a united Ireland.

Party before country.

Is the new Ireland going to be a 1 Party State?

No, but FF/FG know  if a UI happened tomorrow,  they  will be  outnumbered  not only by SF , but  maybe even a combined unionist vote  as well (if an All Ireland parliament was  the outcome).

Hence, the foot dragging.

[weareros]

FG ridiculous as it is are doing a lot more for a UI than FF FFS. Varadkar speaks well on the matter these days too, shame he did f**k all when he was actually in a position to do something

Might not have done much re a border poll, but keeping north in EU for goods trade post Brexit was an underrated achievement and quite a battle with Britain. Keeping island aligned on such matters will make eventual unification smoother at a time when Unionists thought they could put distance between standards on the island. The Future Ireland sovereign wealth fund was launched by Varadkar in 2018. It will have €100 billion by 2040. It's not wrap the green flag around me stuff, or vote getter, but it's long term economic policy to make unification work.

[Rossfan]

If the SF Bill (or stunt) had been passed would that make Ireland united???

Would it not be better to make a start on the groundwork rather than voting against it over lets face it bullshit party politics.

Mehole and Co. aren't  going to  vote themselves out of existence, hence their  continual  foot-dragging on any preparation for a united Ireland.

Party before country.

Is the new Ireland going to be a 1 Party State?

No, but FF/FG know  if a UI happened tomorrow,  they  will be  outnumbered  not only by SF , but  maybe even a combined unionist vote  as well (if an All Ireland parliament was  the outcome).

Hence, the foot dragging.

There will be no need for Sinn Féin in a reunited all Ireland independent State.

[Wildweasel74]

U had them up North a fair while like us, u see how handy they are at getting stuff done! Lol

[Snapchap]

If the SF Bill (or stunt) had been passed would that make Ireland united???

You really are in a league of your own when it comes to straw man arguments, ross. Was anyone arguing that it would have mdae Ireland united? But an Irish government for the first time beginning to initiate planning for reunification certainly would have been a significant and hugely symbolic step. Sadly, FF is led by a man who, in an interview not that long ago, refused say that he would even describe himself as a persuarder for Irish unity.

[Brendan]

Why are so called Republican parties even opposed to the notion of opening the discussion on Unity, they'll not lose any favour with the pals in the Brit government who want shot of the 6 counties and its such a non issue for the majority of the 26 it'll not lose them any votes if they worked towards it

[Armagh18]

Why are so called Republican parties even opposed to the notion of opening the discussion on Unity, they'll not lose any favour with the pals in the Brit government who want shot of the 6 counties and its such a non issue for the majority of the 26 it'll not lose them any votes if they worked towards it

FFG are terrified that they wouldn't be in power in a United Ireland. Another reason is that if Sinn Fein said the sky was blue the chuckle brothers would disagree. A United Ireland should transcend the usual party politics and point scoring bullshit.

[naka]

If the SF Bill (or stunt) had been passed would that make Ireland united???

Would it not be better to make a start on the groundwork rather than voting against it over lets face it bullshit party politics.

Mehole and Co. aren't  going to  vote themselves out of existence, hence their  continual  foot-dragging on any preparation for a united Ireland.

Party before country.

Is the new Ireland going to be a 1 Party State?

No, but FF/FG know  if a UI happened tomorrow,  they  will be  outnumbered  not only by SF , but  maybe even a combined unionist vote  as well (if an All Ireland parliament was  the outcome).

Hence, the foot dragging.

Actually not sure that votes would stay with SF post unification
They have been middling to poor in government here in the 6 counties
We vote sf here simply because it's green v orange
Alliance is irrelevant

[Armagh18]

If the SF Bill (or stunt) had been passed would that make Ireland united???

Would it not be better to make a start on the groundwork rather than voting against it over lets face it bullshit party politics.

Mehole and Co. aren't  going to  vote themselves out of existence, hence their  continual  foot-dragging on any preparation for a united Ireland.

Party before country.

Is the new Ireland going to be a 1 Party State?

No, but FF/FG know  if a UI happened tomorrow,  they  will be  outnumbered  not only by SF , but  maybe even a combined unionist vote  as well (if an All Ireland parliament was  the outcome).

Hence, the foot dragging.

Actually not sure that votes would stay with SF post unification
They have been middling to poor in government here in the 6 counties
We vote sf here simply because it's green v orange
Alliance is irrelevant

You'd hope they'd trim the fat and get rid of a lot of the useless huers north and south, there is decent politicians there amongst the useless ones.

I wouldn't judge SF on their Stormont record as your hands are tied by the Brits ultimately and obviously the DUP just bleat Sinn Fein/IRA like some sort of broken record leaving any meaningful progress impossible. Obviously FFG have totally sold themselves out and basically merged to keep SF out in the south.

[Rossfan]

" Alliance is irrelevant"
Their voters will be the ones who decide the outcome of the referendum.

"FFG" in whatever guise or new partnership of centrists (Alliance/SDLP) will likely be the main choices of voters.
Sinn Féin waving tricolours (or the new All Ireland flag) and chanting populist slogans will be irrelevant.