Armagh v Derry 30-05-2026 - 19:15

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DaleCooper

Yep. Game was over at half time. Derry going through motions with wild kicking, Armagh humming like a big V12 engine.

Ross McQuillan
Oisin ONeill
Rory Grugan

Brought on to seal the win.


Paddy Burns
McCambridge
Forker and ethan Rafferty in reserve.

Armagh folk must be dreaming again

Armagh Girl

Well done to the Boys tonight especially in horrendous conditions in 2nd half.
We gifted Derry 1.1 which brought them into the game.
Great atmosphere and huge Armagh support, Derry support barely visible.
Thought Duffy was really hard done by, and the least said about the ref the better - dreadful! He didn't seem to have any cards for Derry players.

screenexile

Quote from: Armagh Girl on May 31, 2026, 12:03:54 AMWell done to the Boys tonight especially in horrendous conditions in 2nd half.
We gifted Derry 1.1 which brought them into the game.
Great atmosphere and huge Armagh support, Derry support barely visible.
Thought Duffy was really hard done by, and the least said about the ref the better - dreadful! He didn't seem to have any cards for Derry players.


McEvoy and Loughlin got booked for f**k all!!

Duffy clearly moved to check the Derry player.

Solo_run

Quote from: screenexile on May 31, 2026, 03:00:31 AM
Quote from: Armagh Girl on May 31, 2026, 12:03:54 AMWell done to the Boys tonight especially in horrendous conditions in 2nd half.
We gifted Derry 1.1 which brought them into the game.
Great atmosphere and huge Armagh support, Derry support barely visible.
Thought Duffy was really hard done by, and the least said about the ref the better - dreadful! He didn't seem to have any cards for Derry players.


McEvoy and Loughlin got booked for f**k all!!

Duffy clearly moved to check the Derry player.

Duffy was not a yellow.

McLaughlin caught Hughes on the neck with his arm. McMullen was yellow carded for a near identical challenge Vs Tyrone that resulted in his sending off. McEvoy took out Murnin I believe.

screenexile

Hughes was falling and lifted his arm to make it look worse. McEvoy was a bit late on Murnin there was nothing in it. Could see the Armagh management losing their shit over it and the non breach.

Other than the black card I don't remember any Armagh cards so not sure how you were hard done by when Duffy was a clear 3rd man tackle!

We were well beaten but the non breach was a big call when Derry were in the ascendency! Can anyone clarify the rule? The rule book says within 4m isn't a foul!

SouthOfThe Bann

All the giving out I do about Derry would just like to praise Armagh. They are the most machine like team I've ever seen. Doesn't seem to matter who's playing for them injuries don't seem to effect them.

McGeeney and his coaching team deserve outrageous credit. My feeling is they  might just fall a small bit short of winning the All Ireland but one things for sure is McGeeney is getting 100% out of them and they have as good a chance as any.

onefineday

Quote from: OakLeaf on May 30, 2026, 10:56:17 PM
Quote from: Stickittotheman on May 30, 2026, 09:43:30 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on May 30, 2026, 09:03:09 PMMeenagh has got to go. Derry are clearly not at the same level as Armagh but at least let them play. Meenagh has drained the confidence out of these players. Robotic nonsense at the minute. At least have the balls to substitute big names who aren't performing. How on earth some of them stayed on for 70 minutes is beyond me.

Come off it. That's 3 managers now, the players need to take some responsibility and the big leaders in the changing room need to stand up. We can't keep blaming the manager year on year....

Of course the players shoulder part of the blame. Some of our supposedly best players have been very poor this year. Confidence is sorely lacking. However, just look at the style of football we've played this year. Where does that come from. Ethan Doherty had his first shot at goal in the last few minutes. Before that he didn't even look at the posts. He's not the only one. Most of the team seem scared to make a mistake.
Pretty sure Ethan had a bad miss in the first half, and then turned down several chances to shoot immediately after that as confidence was obviously knocked.

Ethan Tremblay

Derry players very wasteful in front of goals in the first half. Had they been hitting some of those they were right in the game going into the final quarter.

Thought it was an odd move to have Rodgers man mark Turbit, a wasted move given Armagh scores come from all over the pitch. He would have been better on out the pitch.

Armagh good across the field again. The likes of mcilroy and mcconville doing a lot of hard yards. Jarly Og prob having his best season and is leading the team well.

Glad to get the win and avoid some of those teams waiting Derry tbh. I'd expect some big teams to go over the next two weeks.

I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

onefineday

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 30, 2026, 08:41:27 PMHave we enough evidence now to suggest that RG was just an incredibly good manager and had a very Average Derry side massively overperforming.

That's 3 managers now that have failed to get any tune out of them.

Toner and Loughlin good honest players but not at the level required at the top end in my opinion.
RG brought belief and confidence and a plan to a group of players who were mostly young, enthusiastic and ripe to believe. They've been on the road a long time and in truth, they've never recovered from the end of the RG era. Players are getting older and a few stalwarts are most likely in their last season and a few others really need a break of some sort.
Peak Derry were a well above average side, but there's probably some truth that the RG system definitely papered over cracks and the way Derry attacked under the old rules at pace with multiple runners and overloads disguised weaknesses in certain areas.
They'll still fancy their chances against anyone in round 2b and have a reasonable chance of making a quarter final, but they are well off the top 4 teams.

We don't need a managerial change, meenagh by many accounts was one of the main architects of the RG system, and I felt we had a decent league, brought in a few new faces and seemed to be adapting our play, but we've regressed in the championship. We need to move on and fully embrace the modern game. Personnel changes are needed and it's clear that some positional experiments aren't working.

David McKeown

Quote from: screenexile on May 31, 2026, 03:51:05 AMHughes was falling and lifted his arm to make it look worse. McEvoy was a bit late on Murnin there was nothing in it. Could see the Armagh management losing their shit over it and the non breach.

Other than the black card I don't remember any Armagh cards so not sure how you were hard done by when Duffy was a clear 3rd man tackle!

We were well beaten but the non breach was a big call when Derry were in the ascendency! Can anyone clarify the rule? The rule book says within 4m isn't a foul!

Was this the one with McGrogan stepping over the half way line?  The rule book doesn't say if within 4m not a a foul it says if it's not deliberate, doesn't interfere with play and is within 4m it's not a foul.

Also I thought if it was a third man tackle it was by the Derry defender. Although I don't think it was deliberate
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theticklemister

Quote from: David McKeown on May 31, 2026, 08:11:26 AM
Quote from: screenexile on May 31, 2026, 03:51:05 AMHughes was falling and lifted his arm to make it look worse. McEvoy was a bit late on Murnin there was nothing in it. Could see the Armagh management losing their shit over it and the non breach.

Other than the black card I don't remember any Armagh cards so not sure how you were hard done by when Duffy was a clear 3rd man tackle!

We were well beaten but the non breach was a big call when Derry were in the ascendency! Can anyone clarify the rule? The rule book says within 4m isn't a foul!

Was this the one with McGrogan stepping over the half way line?  The rule book doesn't say if within 4m not a a foul it says if it's not deliberate, doesn't interfere with play and is within 4m it's not a foul.

Also I thought if it was a third man tackle it was by the Derry defender. Although I don't think it was deliberate

Mcguigan was a metre over line, which is acceptable, but he touched the ball if I remember. Therefore, he interfered with the play and rightfully given a half way free against him

Throw ball

Quote from: screenexile on May 31, 2026, 03:00:31 AM
Quote from: Armagh Girl on May 31, 2026, 12:03:54 AMWell done to the Boys tonight especially in horrendous conditions in 2nd half.
We gifted Derry 1.1 which brought them into the game.
Great atmosphere and huge Armagh support, Derry support barely visible.
Thought Duffy was really hard done by, and the least said about the ref the better - dreadful! He didn't seem to have any cards for Derry players.


McEvoy and Loughlin got booked for f**k all!!

Duffy clearly moved to check the Derry player.

I think you need to watch a replay of the Duffy black card. He actually turned away to try and avoid contact. As bad a black card decision as you are likely to see.

Silver hill

Quote from: Throw ball on May 31, 2026, 09:04:00 AM
Quote from: screenexile on May 31, 2026, 03:00:31 AM
Quote from: Armagh Girl on May 31, 2026, 12:03:54 AMWell done to the Boys tonight especially in horrendous conditions in 2nd half.
We gifted Derry 1.1 which brought them into the game.
Great atmosphere and huge Armagh support, Derry support barely visible.
Thought Duffy was really hard done by, and the least said about the ref the better - dreadful! He didn't seem to have any cards for Derry players.


McEvoy and Loughlin got booked for f**k all!!

Duffy clearly moved to check the Derry player.

I think you need to watch a replay of the Duffy black card. He actually turned away to try and avoid contact. As bad a black card decision as you are likely to see.

Disagree. Duffy knew exactly what he was doing as he stepped across and turned his back. Tried to disguise it as if he had no other option but he knew what he was at.
Not that it had any real impact on the result mind you. Slow, possession based football will not win you a game under the new rules. Derry, under Tally and Now Meenagh, have not adapted well. Zero pace in transition, long ball never considered and no interest in trying to manufacture 2 pointers.

Rossfan

The game has moved from chess to chaos.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: onefineday on May 31, 2026, 07:29:10 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 30, 2026, 08:41:27 PMHave we enough evidence now to suggest that RG was just an incredibly good manager and had a very Average Derry side massively overperforming.

That's 3 managers now that have failed to get any tune out of them.

Toner and Loughlin good honest players but not at the level required at the top end in my opinion.
RG brought belief and confidence and a plan to a group of players who were mostly young, enthusiastic and ripe to believe. They've been on the road a long time and in truth, they've never recovered from the end of the RG era. Players are getting older and a few stalwarts are most likely in their last season and a few others really need a break of some sort.
Peak Derry were a well above average side, but there's probably some truth that the RG system definitely papered over cracks and the way Derry attacked under the old rules at pace with multiple runners and overloads disguised weaknesses in certain areas.
They'll still fancy their chances against anyone in round 2b and have a reasonable chance of making a quarter final, but they are well off the top 4 teams.

We don't need a managerial change, meenagh by many accounts was one of the main architects of the RG system, and I felt we had a decent league, brought in a few new faces and seemed to be adapting our play, but we've regressed in the championship. We need to move on and fully embrace the modern game. Personnel changes are needed and it's clear that some positional experiments aren't working.


Fair assessment.