Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[dec]

When was the last time a southern party had overall majority?

FF Jack Lynch 1977

[Milltown Row2]

So no real governance by one party in nearly 50 years..

I suppose it's work well enough

[Rossfan]

Sinn Féin populism and far right sounding comments have turned social democrat(ic) voters against them.
They claim they're "left" but real left leaning people don't buy that.

[Snapchap]

Sinn Féin populism and far right sounding comments have turned social democrat(ic) voters against them.
They claim they're "left" but real left leaning people don't buy that.

All parties make claims that are dubious. Fianna Fáil claim to be pro-Irish unity ffs.

[Armagh18]

Sinn Féin populism and far right sounding comments have turned social democrat(ic) voters against them.
They claim they're "left" but real left leaning people don't buy that.

Shame as they're the only opposition with any chance of getting in, thick c***ts will continue to vote in FFG.

[Snapchap]

SF have been trying to be all things to all men. Under Mary Lou, they have been in a race to the centre ground and have been too keen to jetison many of their core republican, left principles. I've been wavering on them for a long time, and it was their shameful antics re Gaza and their visits to 'Genodice Joe' (and ridiculous excuses for the follwing year's u-turn on a White House visit) which put the final nail in the coffin for me as far as SF are concerned. My problem now is that there is no other party that is unshamedly republican, left, all-Ireland (in ethos as well as in structure), principled and well organised.

[JollyGreenGiant]

SF have been trying to be all things to all men. Under Mary Lou, they have been in a race to the centre ground and have been too keen to jetison many of their core republican, left principles. I've been wavering on them for a long time, and it was their shameful antics re Gaza and their visits to 'Genodice Joe' (and ridiculous excuses for the follwing year's u-turn on a White House visit) which put the final nail in the coffin for me as far as SF are concerned. My problem now is that there is no other party that is unshamedly republican, left, all-Ireland (in ethos as well as in structure), principled and well organised.

In reality, this is a product of their migration from a perma-opposition party to a potential party of Government. It's easy to be ideologically pure in opposition, as you don't have to take responsibility for the implementation of policy.

[tonto1888]

SF have been trying to be all things to all men. Under Mary Lou, they have been in a race to the centre ground and have been too keen to jetison many of their core republican, left principles. I've been wavering on them for a long time, and it was their shameful antics re Gaza and their visits to 'Genodice Joe' (and ridiculous excuses for the follwing year's u-turn on a White House visit) which put the final nail in the coffin for me as far as SF are concerned. My problem now is that there is no other party that is unshamedly republican, left, all-Ireland (in ethos as well as in structure), principled and well organised.

my thoughts exactly

[Rossfan]

Good luck with that. You may start your own Party!

Republican - none of us are monarchists
Left - we're too well off (comparatively speaking) and we want to pay less tax not pay for extra "free stuff"
Principled- were talking politicians here🙄

All Ireland stuff - Good Friday Agreement has that sorted out/ put away for the moment.
We're in favour of a UI... but not just right now ...

[Rossfan]

Sinn Féin populism and far right sounding comments have turned social democrat(ic) voters against them.
They claim they're "left" but real left leaning people don't buy that.

Shame as they're the only opposition with any chance of getting in, thick c***ts will continue to vote in FFG.

That oul democracy is a bstd isn't it?

[Snapchap]

Good luck with that. You may start your own Party!

Republican - none of us are monarchists
Left - we're too well off (comparatively speaking) and we want to pay less tax not pay for extra "free stuff"
Principled- were talking politicians here🙄

All Ireland stuff - Good Friday Agreement has that sorted out/ put away for the moment.
We're in favour of a UI... but not just right now ...

You think Irish Republicanism, as a political idology, is about nothing more than not wanting a monarchy? Maybe for FF, that's as far as it goes/should go.

[Snapchap]

SF have been trying to be all things to all men. Under Mary Lou, they have been in a race to the centre ground and have been too keen to jetison many of their core republican, left principles. I've been wavering on them for a long time, and it was their shameful antics re Gaza and their visits to 'Genodice Joe' (and ridiculous excuses for the follwing year's u-turn on a White House visit) which put the final nail in the coffin for me as far as SF are concerned. My problem now is that there is no other party that is unshamedly republican, left, all-Ireland (in ethos as well as in structure), principled and well organised.

In reality, this is a product of their migration from a perma-opposition party to a potential party of Government. It's easy to be ideologically pure in opposition, as you don't have to take responsibility for the implementation of policy.

May be. Then again, maybe they were too short sighted to see that their trajectory was trending upwards sharply over the last few decades, and that Mary Lou and MO'N shouldnt have been trying to fix what wasn't broken. Cosying up to racists at home? And to genocidal US presidents in Washington? Remaining deatlhy silent in the face of statistics showing the deeply rooted sectarianism in policing in the north? Steadfastly refusing to stand up to/criticise the DUP until they get within 12 months of an election, and in the in between times, roll over and allow the DUP to run rings around them? It's becoming unreconginsable.

[Armagh18]

SF have been trying to be all things to all men. Under Mary Lou, they have been in a race to the centre ground and have been too keen to jetison many of their core republican, left principles. I've been wavering on them for a long time, and it was their shameful antics re Gaza and their visits to 'Genodice Joe' (and ridiculous excuses for the follwing year's u-turn on a White House visit) which put the final nail in the coffin for me as far as SF are concerned. My problem now is that there is no other party that is unshamedly republican, left, all-Ireland (in ethos as well as in structure), principled and well organised.

In reality, this is a product of their migration from a perma-opposition party to a potential party of Government. It's easy to be ideologically pure in opposition, as you don't have to take responsibility for the implementation of policy.

May be. Then again, maybe they were too short sighted to see that their trajectory was trending upwards sharply over the last few decades, and that Mary Lou and MO'N shouldnt have been trying to fix what wasn't broken. Cosying up to racists at home? And to genocidal US presidents in Washington? Remaining deatlhy silent in the face of statistics showing the deeply rooted sectarianism in policing in the north? Steadfastly refusing to stand up to/criticise the DUP until they get within 12 months of an election, and in the in between times, roll over and allow the DUP to run rings around them? It's becoming unreconginsable.

Have they been doing that though? Doesn't seem to be working as half the comments they get online are calling them Sharia Fein and "Mary Lou Muhammed". As if they're to blame for the government's shit show of an immigration policy.

And while they aren't wonderful in the north the DUP certainly aren't running rings around anyone

[Rossfan]

Good luck with that. You may start your own Party!

Republican - none of us are monarchists
Left - we're too well off (comparatively speaking) and we want to pay less tax not pay for extra "free stuff"
Principled- were talking politicians here🙄

All Ireland stuff - Good Friday Agreement has that sorted out/ put away for the moment.
We're in favour of a UI... but not just right now ...

You think Irish Republicanism, as a political idology, is about nothing more than not wanting a monarchy? Maybe for FF, that's as far as it goes/should go.

We're talking the 26 here.
All that holier than thou "Republican" stuff might mean something to one side in the 6 and some in the 5 border Counties of the 26.
To the rest of the population it's a quaint irrelevance.

[Snapchap]

SF have been trying to be all things to all men. Under Mary Lou, they have been in a race to the centre ground and have been too keen to jetison many of their core republican, left principles. I've been wavering on them for a long time, and it was their shameful antics re Gaza and their visits to 'Genodice Joe' (and ridiculous excuses for the follwing year's u-turn on a White House visit) which put the final nail in the coffin for me as far as SF are concerned. My problem now is that there is no other party that is unshamedly republican, left, all-Ireland (in ethos as well as in structure), principled and well organised.

In reality, this is a product of their migration from a perma-opposition party to a potential party of Government. It's easy to be ideologically pure in opposition, as you don't have to take responsibility for the implementation of policy.

May be. Then again, maybe they were too short sighted to see that their trajectory was trending upwards sharply over the last few decades, and that Mary Lou and MO'N shouldnt have been trying to fix what wasn't broken. Cosying up to racists at home? And to genocidal US presidents in Washington? Remaining deatlhy silent in the face of statistics showing the deeply rooted sectarianism in policing in the north? Steadfastly refusing to stand up to/criticise the DUP until they get within 12 months of an election, and in the in between times, roll over and allow the DUP to run rings around them? It's becoming unreconginsable.

Have they been doing that though? Doesn't seem to be working as half the comments they get online are calling them Sharia Fein and "Mary Lou Muhammed". As if they're to blame for the government's shit show of an immigration policy.

And while they aren't wonderful in the north the DUP certainly aren't running rings around anyone

Of course they are cosiying up to the racsits. Its preciselty because they have been so visciously targetted by the racists that Mary Lou is running scared of them, and pussy-footing around them.

And as for north of the border, they are so keen to grab the centre ground (as in the south) that while the DUP scorns each and every opportunity to show a bit of good grace to the other side of the community, we have MO'N going to the downright insulting extremes of laying wreaths to British security forces. For what? Reciprocation? Don't make me laugh. We also had Michelle O'Neill promise that the A5 and Casement would be delivered on her watch. Casement is still not proceeding (thanks to the DUP), the A5 isn't proceeding (thanks to a combination of beurocratic incompetence from the SF minister to have her legal ducks in a row, as well as the alliance of the DUP/Farmers Union/Alternative A5 Alliance (only last week, we saws the SF minister "reassure the UFU" that no work would proceed before 2027). Long Kest site redevelopment? Nope - that's just another one-time SF priority that the DUP has blocked and SF now refuse to speak of. We have a North South Ministerial Council - one of the key nationalists demands in the GFA, which nowadays doesn't function because the DUP refuses to attend. Silence from SF. 'Don't rock the boat'.