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[Wildweasel74]

Suppose we cant use the Amateur organisation tagline anymore!

[rodney trotter]

Suppose we cant use the Amateur organisation tagline anymore!

That was gone a while with the cringe sky deal they had.

[armaghniac]

Suppose we cant use the Amateur organisation tagline anymore!

That was gone a while with the cringe sky deal they had.

There is nothing incompatible with being an amateur organisation and having restricted TV coverage. The GAA has costs even though it does not pay players. Which is not to say that their exact strategy is a wise one.

[EoinW]

Is the TV licence not a paywall?

Good point!

None of these options are "free".  I grew up with the rabbit ears on the tv set and the antenna over the house.  That was free television.  You bought the tv set and the 12 channels you picked up on it came at no additional cost.  Then Cable arrived in the 1980s.

Modern technology means more options and a cost comes with it.  People are still free to choose to use it of pass on it.

That said, I'm not impressed if RTE contracted for games in good faith and are only being offered the "bottom of the barrel".  That does not reflect well on the ethical values of the people making this decision.

Frankly I'm surprised.  If I was RTE negotiating with the GAA to broadcast their games to a wider audience, any deal I signed would have included the provision that RTE will choose which games they'll show.

[thebigfullforward]

Am I the only one that's in any way neutral about this? When I was younger there wasn't a chance all these games would be available to watch. Now you are able to watch every single game from first round provincial the whole way up to the All Ireland final. 40 plus games and games from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s and the 2010s available to watch as well as all the hurling games that come with it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I think that isn't a bad deal at all

[Gallybander]

Suppose we cant use the Amateur organisation tagline anymore!

That was gone a while with the cringe sky deal they had.

RTE were paying for coverage well before that.

[bennydorano]

Is the TV licence not a paywall?

Good point!

None of these options are "free".  I grew up with the rabbit ears on the tv set and the antenna over the house.  That was free television.  You bought the tv set and the 12 channels you picked up on it came at no additional cost.  Then Cable arrived in the 1980s.

Modern technology means more options and a cost comes with it.  People are still free to choose to use it of pass on it.

That said, I'm not impressed if RTE contracted for games in good faith and are only being offered the "bottom of the barrel".  That does not reflect well on the ethical values of the people making this decision.

Frankly I'm surprised.  If I was RTE negotiating with the GAA to broadcast their games to a wider audience, any deal I signed would have included the provision that RTE will choose which games they'll show.

How is it a good point? It is an inane point, if you believe in it, it does of course mean you are paying twice for the same product with GAA+.

[EoinW]

Am I the only one that's in any way neutral about this? When I was younger there wasn't a chance all these games would be available to watch. Now you are able to watch every single game from first round provincial the whole way up to the All Ireland final. 40 plus games and games from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s and the 2010s available to watch as well as all the hurling games that come with it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I think that isn't a bad deal at all

Correct there's lots of positives to enjoy as we reflect on this current "problem".

I wouldn't boast too loudly about all the old games available.  GAA+ selection is dwarfed by what gaelic games are available on YouTube.  Some time ago the USGA app offered EVERY final round of US Opens going back to the 1960s.  Meanwhile every Masters final round is currently available on YouTube.

If golf can offer such extensive historical coverage to its fans then why can't other sports - like GAA - do the same?

[RedHand88]

Suppose we cant use the Amateur organisation tagline anymore!

That was gone a while with the cringe sky deal they had.

RTE were paying for coverage well before that.

Exactly, and they've been charging at the gate since 1884. It's all just a load of pearl clutching.

[RedHand88]

Is the TV licence not a paywall?

Good point!

None of these options are "free".  I grew up with the rabbit ears on the tv set and the antenna over the house.  That was free television.  You bought the tv set and the 12 channels you picked up on it came at no additional cost.  Then Cable arrived in the 1980s.

Modern technology means more options and a cost comes with it.  People are still free to choose to use it of pass on it.

That said, I'm not impressed if RTE contracted for games in good faith and are only being offered the "bottom of the barrel".  That does not reflect well on the ethical values of the people making this decision.

Frankly I'm surprised.  If I was RTE negotiating with the GAA to broadcast their games to a wider audience, any deal I signed would have included the provision that RTE will choose which games they'll show.

How is it a good point? It is an inane point, if you believe in it, it does of course mean you are paying twice for the same product with GAA+.

Ehhh no. Nowhere in the TV licence literature does it say this covers every GAA championship match going. RTE is not a GAA channel, it's not even a dedicated sports channel.

[rodney trotter]

Suppose we cant use the Amateur organisation tagline anymore!

That was gone a while with the cringe sky deal they had.

RTE were paying for coverage well before that.

Exactly, and they've been charging at the gate since 1884. It's all just a load of pearl clutching.

Suppose we cant use the Amateur organisation tagline anymore!

That was gone a while with the cringe sky deal they had.

There is nothing incompatible with being an amateur organisation and having restricted TV coverage. The GAA has costs even though it does not pay players. Which is not to say that their exact strategy is a wise one.

They are making a huge turnover on revenue.  Oasis,NFL, United v Leeds in August.

It's probably killing them to extend the Championship by 2 weeks next year. August is usually concert month in croker.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Is the TV licence not a paywall?

Good point!

None of these options are "free".  I grew up with the rabbit ears on the tv set and the antenna over the house.  That was free television.  You bought the tv set and the 12 channels you picked up on it came at no additional cost.  Then Cable arrived in the 1980s.

Modern technology means more options and a cost comes with it.  People are still free to choose to use it of pass on it.

That said, I'm not impressed if RTE contracted for games in good faith and are only being offered the "bottom of the barrel".  That does not reflect well on the ethical values of the people making this decision.

Frankly I'm surprised.  If I was RTE negotiating with the GAA to broadcast their games to a wider audience, any deal I signed would have included the provision that RTE will choose which games they'll show.

How is it a good point? It is an inane point, if you believe in it, it does of course mean you are paying twice for the same product with GAA+.

Ehhh no. Nowhere in the TV licence literature does it say this covers every GAA championship match going. RTE is not a GAA channel, it's not even a dedicated sports channel.

Nobody says it is.

But if you were at purchaser in the sports department in RTE you would be deeply pissed off with your return and will bid accordingly next time out.

So likely hee haw outside the provincial finals and beyond.

I assume the bean counters have factored this in. But if the bulk of your bead and butter goes behind a paywall then less casual viewers watch games. There is less general conversation about the GAA as your viewing figures are way down.

[armaghniac]

Am I the only one that's in any way neutral about this? When I was younger there wasn't a chance all these games would be available to watch. Now you are able to watch every single game from first round provincial the whole way up to the All Ireland final. 40 plus games and games from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s and the 2010s available to watch as well as all the hurling games that come with it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I think that isn't a bad deal at all

Correct there's lots of positives to enjoy as we reflect on this current "problem".

I wouldn't boast too loudly about all the old games available.  GAA+ selection is dwarfed by what gaelic games are available on YouTube.  Some time ago the USGA app offered EVERY final round of US Opens going back to the 1960s.  Meanwhile every Masters final round is currently available on YouTube.

If golf can offer such extensive historical coverage to its fans then why can't other sports - like GAA - do the same?

GAA+ does offer games free after a few days.
A comprehensive historical archive would be good, useful for the winter days.

[rodney trotter]

Is the TV licence not a paywall?

Good point!

None of these options are "free".  I grew up with the rabbit ears on the tv set and the antenna over the house.  That was free television.  You bought the tv set and the 12 channels you picked up on it came at no additional cost.  Then Cable arrived in the 1980s.

Modern technology means more options and a cost comes with it.  People are still free to choose to use it of pass on it.

That said, I'm not impressed if RTE contracted for games in good faith and are only being offered the "bottom of the barrel".  That does not reflect well on the ethical values of the people making this decision.

Frankly I'm surprised.  If I was RTE negotiating with the GAA to broadcast their games to a wider audience, any deal I signed would have included the provision that RTE will choose which games they'll show.

How is it a good point? It is an inane point, if you believe in it, it does of course mean you are paying twice for the same product with GAA+.

Ehhh no. Nowhere in the TV licence literature does it say this covers every GAA championship match going. RTE is not a GAA channel, it's not even a dedicated sports channel.

Nobody says it is.

But if you were at purchaser in the sports department in RTE you would be deeply pissed off with your return and will bid accordingly next time out.

So likely hee haw outside the provincial finals and beyond.

I assume the bean counters have factored this in. But if the bulk of your bead and butter goes behind a paywall then less casual viewers watch games. There is less general conversation about the GAA as your viewing figures are way down.

They discussed that on the Irish News Podcast  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKcUcUSEYF8&t=1774s