Diesel, petrol, oil price watch

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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Rossfan on April 13, 2026, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 12:25:46 PMLong term there needs to be a focus on renewable energies like solar and wind etc so that we aren't held to ransom by a crazy old war criminal like Trump/Putin/Netenyahu, thats twice in 4 years we've seen ridiculous price hikes due solely to egotistical old c***ts.
So not the governments fault...
Most Councilloers are now opposed to wind turbines

Our geniuses want to pass a motion banning them in the County.


We have had a week of him telling us that fuel could be given away if the government wanted to. He even claimed if you cut vat you raise more in tax. Today high prices are the wars fault. There is incoherent and there is this.

trileacman

Quote from: Rossfan on April 13, 2026, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 12:25:46 PMLong term there needs to be a focus on renewable energies like solar and wind etc so that we aren't held to ransom by a crazy old war criminal like Trump/Putin/Netenyahu, thats twice in 4 years we've seen ridiculous price hikes due solely to egotistical old c***ts.
So not the governments fault...
Most Councilloers are now opposed to wind turbines

Our geniuses want to pass a motion banning them in the County.



You're not much of a genius yourself. It's widely acknowledged that we are at close to our limit for wind production in this country, the unreliable and uneven production of wind energy means that between 25-30% of all wind energy is wasted as there isn't use for it in the grid.

Likewise the solar production happens predominantly in summer months. In Ireland the winter production is close to negligible. And the peak in production happens at midday and has to be stored at some significant cost until it can be used in the evening peak time. Whilst there is some role for more solar in the Irish energy sector it's the solve-all that the passing idiot thinks that it is.
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Armagh18

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 02:01:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 13, 2026, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 12:25:46 PMLong term there needs to be a focus on renewable energies like solar and wind etc so that we aren't held to ransom by a crazy old war criminal like Trump/Putin/Netenyahu, thats twice in 4 years we've seen ridiculous price hikes due solely to egotistical old c***ts.
So not the governments fault...
Most Councilloers are now opposed to wind turbines

Our geniuses want to pass a motion banning them in the County.


We have had a week of him telling us that fuel could be given away if the government wanted to. He even claimed if you cut vat you raise more in tax. Today high prices are the wars fault. There is incoherent and there is this.
Didn't bother replying to that last week as I thought even a soccer dope like you would understand that the government are lifting millions extra in VAT, so could afford to cut the rate and not be down money on what they were lifting before this.

Is it not obvious that the "war" caused the price hike and that the government could have helped ease it weeks ago but didn't bother. For what its worth I'd love to see the protests focused on the US and Israeli embassies and that orange scumbags golf course.

RedHand88

But they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: trileacman on April 13, 2026, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 13, 2026, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 12:25:46 PMLong term there needs to be a focus on renewable energies like solar and wind etc so that we aren't held to ransom by a crazy old war criminal like Trump/Putin/Netenyahu, thats twice in 4 years we've seen ridiculous price hikes due solely to egotistical old c***ts.
So not the governments fault...
Most Councilloers are now opposed to wind turbines

Our geniuses want to pass a motion banning them in the County.



You're not much of a genius yourself. It's widely acknowledged that we are at close to our limit for wind production in this country, the unreliable and uneven production of wind energy means that between 25-30% of all wind energy is wasted as there isn't use for it in the grid.

Likewise the solar production happens predominantly in summer months. In Ireland the winter production is close to negligible. And the peak in production happens at midday and has to be stored at some significant cost until it can be used in the evening peak time. Whilst there is some role for more solar in the Irish energy sector it's the solve-all that the passing idiot thinks that it is.

Take it up with him. Renewable energy wasn't mentioned once. Asylum seekers and trans people were.

Armagh18

Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?
People are aware but it really isn't worth one f**k when diesel is over €2 a litre. May as well go into the delivery suite with a condom.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 02:01:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 13, 2026, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 12:25:46 PMLong term there needs to be a focus on renewable energies like solar and wind etc so that we aren't held to ransom by a crazy old war criminal like Trump/Putin/Netenyahu, thats twice in 4 years we've seen ridiculous price hikes due solely to egotistical old c***ts.
So not the governments fault...
Most Councilloers are now opposed to wind turbines

Our geniuses want to pass a motion banning them in the County.


We have had a week of him telling us that fuel could be given away if the government wanted to. He even claimed if you cut vat you raise more in tax. Today high prices are the wars fault. There is incoherent and there is this.
Didn't bother replying to that last week as I thought even a soccer dope like you would understand that the government are lifting millions extra in VAT, so could afford to cut the rate and not be down money on what they were lifting before this.

Is it not obvious that the "war" caused the price hike and that the government could have helped ease it weeks ago but didn't bother. For what its worth I'd love to see the protests focused on the US and Israeli embassies and that orange scumbags golf course.
And I answered that petrol and diesel aren't elastic goods. People don't buy more when it's cheaper.

And they did 'bother' rates were cut and prices were falling until you dopes choked supply.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 13, 2026, 02:30:21 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?
People are aware but it really isn't worth one f**k when diesel is over €2 a litre. May as well go into the delivery suite with a condom.
But as you say, the war caused that. Not pregnant women forced to give birth in the back of an ambulance

armaghniac

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 02:31:09 PMAnd I answered that petrol and diesel aren't elastic goods. People don't buy more when it's cheaper.

And they did 'bother' rates were cut and prices were falling until you dopes choked supply.

Nevertheless, if diesel had always been over €2 they might not have bought such big cars or might have bought electric ones sooner.
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93-DY-SAM

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Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?


But it isn't costing £250m a dayyear. The government is lifting an extra £250m a dayyear over and above what they would normally collect. This additional money wasn't built into their projections for budgets, etc., so it isn't "lost" money.

Additionally, I think if additional tax money were spent correctly, it would be much easier for people to swallow these massive increases. There would be plenty of money to go around for health, education, roads, infrastructure, foreign aid, etc. But seeing the way money is spent incompetently and with zero accountability really is the bit that sticks in people's throats who are getting rinced at every opportunity. Yes, it isn't just as black and white as that, but that is the crux of it. North and South. 

EDIT: Updated day to year as that is what I meant in my original post. That is what happens when you are rushing and doing a dozen other things at the same time.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?


But it isn't costing £250m a day. The government is lifting an extra £250m a day over and above what they would normally collect. This additional money wasn't built into their projections for budgets, etc., so it isn't "lost" money.

Additionally, I think if additional tax money were spent correctly, it would be much easier for people to swallow these massive increases. There would be plenty of money to go around for health, education, roads, infrastructure, foreign aid, etc. But seeing the way money is spent incompetently and with zero accountability really is the bit that sticks in people's throats who are getting rinced at every opportunity. Yes, it isn't just as black and white as that, but that is the crux of it. North and South. 
But farmers are the least rinsed

93-DY-SAM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on April 13, 2026, 02:52:48 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?


But it isn't costing £250m a day. The government is lifting an extra £250m a day over and above what they would normally collect. This additional money wasn't built into their projections for budgets, etc., so it isn't "lost" money.

Additionally, I think if additional tax money were spent correctly, it would be much easier for people to swallow these massive increases. There would be plenty of money to go around for health, education, roads, infrastructure, foreign aid, etc. But seeing the way money is spent incompetently and with zero accountability really is the bit that sticks in people's throats who are getting rinced at every opportunity. Yes, it isn't just as black and white as that, but that is the crux of it. North and South. 
But farmers are the least rinsed

How so?

RedHand88

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Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?


But it isn't costing £250m a day. The government is lifting an extra £250m a day over and above what they would normally collect. This additional money wasn't built into their projections for budgets, etc., so it isn't "lost" money.

Additionally, I think if additional tax money were spent correctly, it would be much easier for people to swallow these massive increases. There would be plenty of money to go around for health, education, roads, infrastructure, foreign aid, etc. But seeing the way money is spent incompetently and with zero accountability really is the bit that sticks in people's throats who are getting rinced at every opportunity. Yes, it isn't just as black and white as that, but that is the crux of it. North and South. 

So what you're saying, is that the Irish government lifts an extra €91.25 billion in fuel duty a year.

Do you think that's likely? I think you're confusing a year and a day.

Armagh18

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?


But it isn't costing £250m a day. The government is lifting an extra £250m a day over and above what they would normally collect. This additional money wasn't built into their projections for budgets, etc., so it isn't "lost" money.

Additionally, I think if additional tax money were spent correctly, it would be much easier for people to swallow these massive increases. There would be plenty of money to go around for health, education, roads, infrastructure, foreign aid, etc. But seeing the way money is spent incompetently and with zero accountability really is the bit that sticks in people's throats who are getting rinced at every opportunity. Yes, it isn't just as black and white as that, but that is the crux of it. North and South. 
100%.

93-DY-SAM

Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on April 13, 2026, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 13, 2026, 02:23:16 PMBut they did ease it weeks ago. Back in March excise duty was cut in response to the hikes. It cost €250 million to do.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ireland-temporarily-cut-fuel-duty-235-million-euro-energy-package-2026-03-23/

Why are people either not aware of this or choosing to ignore it?


But it isn't costing £250m a day. The government is lifting an extra £250m a day over and above what they would normally collect. This additional money wasn't built into their projections for budgets, etc., so it isn't "lost" money.

Additionally, I think if additional tax money were spent correctly, it would be much easier for people to swallow these massive increases. There would be plenty of money to go around for health, education, roads, infrastructure, foreign aid, etc. But seeing the way money is spent incompetently and with zero accountability really is the bit that sticks in people's throats who are getting rinced at every opportunity. Yes, it isn't just as black and white as that, but that is the crux of it. North and South. 

So what you're saying, is that the Irish government lifts an extra €91.25 billion in fuel duty a year.

Do you think that's likely? I think you're confusing a year and a day.

My bad, and yes, that is what I meant, but sure you knew that!