The Many Faces of US Politics...

Started by Tyrones own, March 20, 2009, 09:29:14 PM

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Milltown Row2

It's currently creating more reasons for suicide bombers/shooters/knife to be committed on innocent people, attending concerts/sports/festivals

Healing, spreading love,  peace humanity is lacking in the world
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.


DaleCooper

Iran has been obliterated!

Their Navy GONE

Their air force GONE

Total victory for Team USA!

Victory declared at least ten times...

Then came the 48 hour warning to Iran. Then 6 days that was extended to 10 days.

Now the Oompa Loompa is threatening to bomb desalination plants and oil wells. Bluffing moron has no idea who he is trying to bluff. Winning!

Meanwhile Iran calmly wrecks 6+ supertankers and an irreplacable AWACS plane that is one of only 16 in existence[700 million USD to replace] stationed at a Saudi base.






RedHand88

Quote from: DaleCooper on March 31, 2026, 12:15:43 AMIran has been obliterated!

Their Navy GONE

Their air force GONE

Total victory for Team USA!

Victory declared at least ten times...

Then came the 48 hour warning to Iran. Then 6 days that was extended to 10 days.

Now the Oompa Loompa is threatening to bomb desalination plants and oil wells. Bluffing moron has no idea who he is trying to bluff. Winning!

Meanwhile Iran calmly wrecks 6+ supertankers and an irreplacable AWACS plane that is one of only 16 in existence[700 million USD to replace] stationed at a Saudi base.




Iran have went from launching 400+ missiles per day at the start of March to about 10 a day now. Their missile launch centres have been decimated. 30 or 40 of their senior government officials have been killed including the big cheese himself.
Trump spouting incoherent nonsense does not discredit these facts.
The only "weapon" they have now is the price of oil.

Blah blah senior hurling blah blah Fermanagh Ulster Championship blah blah a dozen twitter links in one post.
Some amount of hot air on this thread.

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/4f095d4b-46cb-4ed6-90cf-aa560fba2bc1?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Trump this week opened up diplomatic efforts to reach a negotiated settlement with Tehran but continued to issue threats of military escalation against Tehran as the US moved thousands of additional troops to the region.


The Iranians have a million soldiers on standby

johnnycool

Quote from: RedHand88 on March 31, 2026, 08:55:11 AM
Quote from: DaleCooper on March 31, 2026, 12:15:43 AMIran has been obliterated!

Their Navy GONE

Their air force GONE

Total victory for Team USA!

Victory declared at least ten times...

Then came the 48 hour warning to Iran. Then 6 days that was extended to 10 days.

Now the Oompa Loompa is threatening to bomb desalination plants and oil wells. Bluffing moron has no idea who he is trying to bluff. Winning!

Meanwhile Iran calmly wrecks 6+ supertankers and an irreplacable AWACS plane that is one of only 16 in existence[700 million USD to replace] stationed at a Saudi base.




Iran have went from launching 400+ missiles per day at the start of March to about 10 a day now. Their missile launch centres have been decimated. 30 or 40 of their senior government officials have been killed including the big cheese himself.
Trump spouting incoherent nonsense does not discredit these facts.
The only "weapon" they have now is the price of oil.

Blah blah senior hurling blah blah Fermanagh Ulster Championship blah blah a dozen twitter links in one post.
Some amount of hot air on this thread.


If all this is true then why aren't the US war ships lined up the Strait of Hormuz ensuring the oil tankers are flowing freely, those big beautiful oil tankers.

seafoid

Quote from: RedHand88 on March 31, 2026, 08:55:11 AM
Quote from: DaleCooper on March 31, 2026, 12:15:43 AMIran has been obliterated!

Their Navy GONE

Their air force GONE

Total victory for Team USA!

Victory declared at least ten times...

Then came the 48 hour warning to Iran. Then 6 days that was extended to 10 days.

Now the Oompa Loompa is threatening to bomb desalination plants and oil wells. Bluffing moron has no idea who he is trying to bluff. Winning!

Meanwhile Iran calmly wrecks 6+ supertankers and an irreplacable AWACS plane that is one of only 16 in existence[700 million USD to replace] stationed at a Saudi base.




Iran have went from launching 400+ missiles per day at the start of March to about 10 a day now. Their missile launch centres have been decimated. 30 or 40 of their senior government officials have been killed including the big cheese himself.
Trump spouting incoherent nonsense does not discredit these facts.
The only "weapon" they have now is the price of oil.

Blah blah senior hurling blah blah Fermanagh Ulster Championship blah blah a dozen twitter links in one post.
Some amount of hot air on this thread.

The Iranians have Hormuz and control over the gulf and they are still firing missiles at Israel. They have missile stores in the mountains and the Yanks don't know how much. Israel is down to 1 week of interceptors. Yanks have 3.

They are running an asymmetric war so they don't need a navy.

trueblue1234

No one is winning. The difference is that Iran didn't want or start this war, so they are doing what they can given the circumstances they were forced into. And despite what Trump is spouting, they haven't lost yet.
America and Israel on the other hand went in expecting another quick win. They didn't get that. And now the US population is turning against the war. While the US hasn't lost the war, they've already made sure it won't be a win either. They didn't expect to be this stretched by a "small" country like Iran and invested much more than they anticipated.
That said, Iran will be devastated. And they seem quite prepared to go the distance, whatever that costs.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Rossfan

Iran has the right to defend itself.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on March 31, 2026, 09:59:12 AMIran has the right to defend itself.

Of those  who are forced to choose
Some will choose to fight..

#MichaelGlaveys


LC

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-us-israel-kharg-island-netanyahu-lebanon-strikes-drone-live-sky-news-13509565?postid=11440031#liveblog-body

The land grab continues:

Around 600,000 residents who have been evacuated from southern Lebanon will not be able to return until the safety of residents in northern Israeli is guaranteed, Israel's defence minister has said.

Israel Katz also said that the IDF would establish a �buffer ‌zone in the area �and ⁠maintain ⁠control up ⁠to �the �Litani River.

Israel has already said it intends to control a buffer zone up to the river which runs around 30km (20 miles) north of the Israeli-Lebanese border.




johnnycool

The biggest issue at stake here for the US is the petrodollar.

If Iran starts selling oil to the rest of the world in anything other than the USD, and others follow suit then the inflated value of the dollar takes a serious hit and that will have huge implications for the US economy.

BRICS has been attempting this for a while now and has been unsuccessful. Will this war be enough to split the global economy and remove the US hegemony?

Trump never thought this through at all, but he's Netanyahu's bitch because of the Epstein files and will do as he's told.




Armagh18

Quote from: johnnycool on March 31, 2026, 12:00:14 PMThe biggest issue at stake here for the US is the petrodollar.

If Iran starts selling oil to the rest of the world in anything other than the USD, and others follow suit then the inflated value of the dollar takes a serious hit and that will have huge implications for the US economy.

BRICS has been attempting this for a while now and has been unsuccessful. Will this war be enough to split the global economy and remove the US hegemony?

Trump never thought this through at all, but he's Netanyahu's bitch because of the Epstein files and will do as he's told.




Surely some of the big money men get rid of Trump before it comes to that?

J70

Quote from: RedHand88 on March 31, 2026, 08:55:11 AM
Quote from: DaleCooper on March 31, 2026, 12:15:43 AMIran has been obliterated!

Their Navy GONE

Their air force GONE

Total victory for Team USA!

Victory declared at least ten times...

Then came the 48 hour warning to Iran. Then 6 days that was extended to 10 days.

Now the Oompa Loompa is threatening to bomb desalination plants and oil wells. Bluffing moron has no idea who he is trying to bluff. Winning!

Meanwhile Iran calmly wrecks 6+ supertankers and an irreplacable AWACS plane that is one of only 16 in existence[700 million USD to replace] stationed at a Saudi base.




Iran have went from launching 400+ missiles per day at the start of March to about 10 a day now. Their missile launch centres have been decimated. 30 or 40 of their senior government officials have been killed including the big cheese himself.
Trump spouting incoherent nonsense does not discredit these facts.
The only "weapon" they have now is the price of oil.


Blah blah senior hurling blah blah Fermanagh Ulster Championship blah blah a dozen twitter links in one post.
Some amount of hot air on this thread.


What about Trump's complete lack of a coherent plan then?

He's gutted the intelligence staff across a number of agencies whose job it was to advise the government on issues like Iran. He's got an out-of-his-depth, unserious, morally bankrupt poser leading the Dept. of Defense War. Rubio and Vance are trying to stay out of sight so they can protect their own arses for the future. The rationale for the war excursion has changed by the hour since it started, and is now basically limited to knocking out Iran's military capability and reopening the Strait of Hormuz, which was open before they even bloody started. No word now of regime change or even the nuclear threat.

And oil prices are a pretty good weapon for a relatively small opponent to have and use.

And let's not forget that its not even two years since the likes of Trump and Vance were campaigning on Kamala Harris starting WW3 by attacking Iran.