Boxing Thread

[lurganblue]

On a side note, boxing needs a serious revamp.  It has gone stale.  Never going to happen but there should only be 1 world champion belt per weight class. Encourages the bigger matchups.  Also, boxers arent active enough. Introduce enforced consequences for inactivity, be that a slide in rankings or stripped of the belt quickly. 

I see this AJvPaul fight is 8 rounds. Immediately makes it look like an exhibition and not to be taken seriously.

[SaffronSports]

On a side note, boxing needs a serious revamp.  It has gone stale.  Never going to happen but there should only be 1 world champion belt per weight class. Encourages the bigger matchups.  Also, boxers arent active enough. Introduce enforced consequences for inactivity, be that a slide in rankings or stripped of the belt quickly. 

I see this AJvPaul fight is 8 rounds. Immediately makes it look like an exhibition and not to be taken seriously.

Not sure we need to worry about how many rounds there are as it shouldn't last that long anyway. That said, there seems to be a notion that AJ wants a few rounds in the tank for big fights in February and September and if he's getting a career high pay day for that glorified sparring session you'd not turn it down.

[nrico2006]

On a side note, boxing needs a serious revamp.  It has gone stale.  Never going to happen but there should only be 1 world champion belt per weight class. Encourages the bigger matchups.  Also, boxers arent active enough. Introduce enforced consequences for inactivity, be that a slide in rankings or stripped of the belt quickly. 

I see this AJvPaul fight is 8 rounds. Immediately makes it look like an exhibition and not to be taken seriously.

It has become anything but stale the past few years but that is due to the Saudis and not as a result of the governing bodies running boxing properly. The biggest fights have been made, multiple undisputed fights etc. The governing bodies are a joke and have very little credibility, with constant contradictions in their treatment of fighters based on the fighters name when it comes to rankings and opportunities. On the flip side though, if there was one champion per division, a lot of fighters would never get a shot and even looking at this island, Frampton, Collins, Lee, Cacace, Dunne, Crocker etc. would likely never have been champions or even got a shot at a title.

[Armagh18]

On a side note, boxing needs a serious revamp.  It has gone stale.  Never going to happen but there should only be 1 world champion belt per weight class. Encourages the bigger matchups.  Also, boxers arent active enough. Introduce enforced consequences for inactivity, be that a slide in rankings or stripped of the belt quickly. 

I see this AJvPaul fight is 8 rounds. Immediately makes it look like an exhibition and not to be taken seriously.

Well that much is obvious from the start no matter how many rounds there will be

[Munchie]

The first two, AJ is blindfolded and the you tuber can only use his left, second two the girlfriends have a dig at each other, then it's a straight full on boxing sceptical Rocky style, I hit you, you hit me, outcome a draw and a rematch for the gullible masses.

[lurganblue]

On a side note, boxing needs a serious revamp.  It has gone stale.  Never going to happen but there should only be 1 world champion belt per weight class. Encourages the bigger matchups.  Also, boxers arent active enough. Introduce enforced consequences for inactivity, be that a slide in rankings or stripped of the belt quickly. 

I see this AJvPaul fight is 8 rounds. Immediately makes it look like an exhibition and not to be taken seriously.

It has become anything but stale the past few years but that is due to the Saudis and not as a result of the governing bodies running boxing properly. The biggest fights have been made, multiple undisputed fights etc. The governing bodies are a joke and have very little credibility, with constant contradictions in their treatment of fighters based on the fighters name when it comes to rankings and opportunities. On the flip side though, if there was one champion per division, a lot of fighters would never get a shot and even looking at this island, Frampton, Collins, Lee, Cacace, Dunne, Crocker etc. would likely never have been champions or even got a shot at a title.

I'd have no issue with that.  Frampton would likely still have got a belt taking in say a world title fight with Santa Cruz, in a hypothetical scenario.  Collins would likely have gotten one too.

[clonian]

Boxing these days is simply about getting as much money as you can for as little risk as possible. This is a no-brainer for Joshua. He dealt with the big UFC lad no bother and I'd expect the same here and it's a huge pay day. Even for Jake Paul, I've a bit of begrudged respect for him taking this one on. By a mile his toughest fight. Tommy Fury is garbage and he beat him so there's no chance he does anything other than lose here. He'll go in swinging, get caught and beat with millions in his pocket. Hopefully, he comes away with nothing worse than his ego bruised but I do wonder if one of the BBC's get involved and pull the plug on it.

If AJ said he was going to box Tommy Fury I don't think they'd sanction that fight so why does this one happen?

Even if there's some agreement to take it easy there's a real chance Jake Paul gets hurt here. What does a brain damaged celebrity (or worse) do for boxing's reputation?

[Armagh18]

Boxing these days is simply about getting as much money as you can for as little risk as possible. This is a no-brainer for Joshua. He dealt with the big UFC lad no bother and I'd expect the same here and it's a huge pay day. Even for Jake Paul, I've a bit of begrudged respect for him taking this one on. By a mile his toughest fight. Tommy Fury is garbage and he beat him so there's no chance he does anything other than lose here. He'll go in swinging, get caught and beat with millions in his pocket. Hopefully, he comes away with nothing worse than his ego bruised but I do wonder if one of the BBC's get involved and pull the plug on it.

If AJ said he was going to box Tommy Fury I don't think they'd sanction that fight so why does this one happen?

Even if there's some agreement to take it easy there's a real chance Jake Paul gets hurt here. What does a brain damaged celebrity (or worse) do for boxing's reputation?

Why wouldnt they sanction Tommy Fury?

It'll be little more than an exhibition and they'll both make millions, simple.

[bennydorano]

The Governing bodies are a joke but are they any worse than FIFA or the like? Anytime I read something from FIFA or UEFA I despair. The effort it took to get rid of Sepp Blatter who had replaced an equally big crook in Havelange now the red flags are flying high with Infantino. Ceferin after Platini in UEFA - same again. Private fifedoms.

[clonian]

Boxing these days is simply about getting as much money as you can for as little risk as possible. This is a no-brainer for Joshua. He dealt with the big UFC lad no bother and I'd expect the same here and it's a huge pay day. Even for Jake Paul, I've a bit of begrudged respect for him taking this one on. By a mile his toughest fight. Tommy Fury is garbage and he beat him so there's no chance he does anything other than lose here. He'll go in swinging, get caught and beat with millions in his pocket. Hopefully, he comes away with nothing worse than his ego bruised but I do wonder if one of the BBC's get involved and pull the plug on it.

If AJ said he was going to box Tommy Fury I don't think they'd sanction that fight so why does this one happen?

Even if there's some agreement to take it easy there's a real chance Jake Paul gets hurt here. What does a brain damaged celebrity (or worse) do for boxing's reputation?

Why wouldnt they sanction Tommy Fury?

It'll be little more than an exhibition and they'll both make millions, simple.

There's meant to be competition in each fight to protect the integrity of the sport. If anyone can throw enough money at it to box whoever they want it's not great. Boxers have died in fights that were seen as even so you have to have some measures in place to protect boxers.

This type of stuff has happened before though, how many fights did Ali have that shouldn't really of happened?

[Milltown Row2]

Was in the Kop end when Donegal Celtic played Linfield in the cup! What a night lol

[SaffronSports]

Boxing these days is simply about getting as much money as you can for as little risk as possible. This is a no-brainer for Joshua. He dealt with the big UFC lad no bother and I'd expect the same here and it's a huge pay day. Even for Jake Paul, I've a bit of begrudged respect for him taking this one on. By a mile his toughest fight. Tommy Fury is garbage and he beat him so there's no chance he does anything other than lose here. He'll go in swinging, get caught and beat with millions in his pocket. Hopefully, he comes away with nothing worse than his ego bruised but I do wonder if one of the BBC's get involved and pull the plug on it.

If AJ said he was going to box Tommy Fury I don't think they'd sanction that fight so why does this one happen?

Even if there's some agreement to take it easy there's a real chance Jake Paul gets hurt here. What does a brain damaged celebrity (or worse) do for boxing's reputation?

Tbh the fight is in Florida i think so maybe theyre more relaxed about licenses or can be "incentivised". Regardless, if they turned it down theyd just go elsewhere. Tyson lost his Nevada license so they fought in Texas. Years ago, Chisora was banned by the British board so they got Luxembourg BBC to sanction him vs Haye.

I dont like Jake Paul tbh but genuinely hope he comes through this okay as its stupid. The whole intrigue of him is can he beat this mma guy at boxing, can he beat this lighter weight boxer, can he beat this old boxer etc? This one hes up against a world level fighter who is naturally a few stone heavier. Not smart at all.

[nrico2006]

On a side note, boxing needs a serious revamp.  It has gone stale.  Never going to happen but there should only be 1 world champion belt per weight class. Encourages the bigger matchups.  Also, boxers arent active enough. Introduce enforced consequences for inactivity, be that a slide in rankings or stripped of the belt quickly. 

I see this AJvPaul fight is 8 rounds. Immediately makes it look like an exhibition and not to be taken seriously.

It has become anything but stale the past few years but that is due to the Saudis and not as a result of the governing bodies running boxing properly. The biggest fights have been made, multiple undisputed fights etc. The governing bodies are a joke and have very little credibility, with constant contradictions in their treatment of fighters based on the fighters name when it comes to rankings and opportunities. On the flip side though, if there was one champion per division, a lot of fighters would never get a shot and even looking at this island, Frampton, Collins, Lee, Cacace, Dunne, Crocker etc. would likely never have been champions or even got a shot at a title.

I'd have no issue with that.  Frampton would likely still have got a belt taking in say a world title fight with Santa Cruz, in a hypothetical scenario.  Collins would likely have gotten one too.

On a side note, boxing needs a serious revamp.  It has gone stale.  Never going to happen but there should only be 1 world champion belt per weight class. Encourages the bigger matchups.  Also, boxers arent active enough. Introduce enforced consequences for inactivity, be that a slide in rankings or stripped of the belt quickly. 

I see this AJvPaul fight is 8 rounds. Immediately makes it look like an exhibition and not to be taken seriously.

It has become anything but stale the past few years but that is due to the Saudis and not as a result of the governing bodies running boxing properly. The biggest fights have been made, multiple undisputed fights etc. The governing bodies are a joke and have very little credibility, with constant contradictions in their treatment of fighters based on the fighters name when it comes to rankings and opportunities. On the flip side though, if there was one champion per division, a lot of fighters would never get a shot and even looking at this island, Frampton, Collins, Lee, Cacace, Dunne, Crocker etc. would likely never have been champions or even got a shot at a title.

I'd have no issue with that.  Frampton would likely still have got a belt taking in say a world title fight with Santa Cruz, in a hypothetical scenario.  Collins would likely have gotten one too.

Frampton or Collins could have possibly won one, but the difficulty would be in getting that one shot with every fighter on a ladder trying to claim it, with there only being 2 title fights a year. You would end up having fighters in good ranked positions having to wait years for their shot. Don't think Frampton was better than Gary Russel Junior, Rigondeaux or Oscar Valdez, who are the type of names he would have had to beat. Same for Collins, he would never have beat Roy Jones.

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Program on rte1 tonight 10.15 about the Collins Eubank fight for anyone interested

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[ONeill]

Collins beat a done Eubank, barely. Ray Close was closer.