Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2025

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Armagh18

Quote from: JoG2 on November 11, 2025, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 11, 2025, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 10, 2025, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 10, 2025, 11:16:43 AMIntermediate semi finals, 3 x Div 1 teams (Derry, Cavan and Monaghan), 1 x Div 2 team, Clonoe

And Clonoe are probaly the favourites for the competition. Irvinestown were Division also 1. County players are only available for 1 league game in Cavan . It has no bearing.
Fermanagh afaik only has two divisions.

Glenullin beat the 2024 All Ireland club winners en route to a top ten finish in the Derry league, the club that finished 10th in Armagh played in the SFC final. Here's hoping for a Clonoe/Carrickmacross final


Glenullin should be playing senior, that's the grade they want to be in (but for restructuring / a year of Covid they would) . Glenullin beating a Watty's reserve team in the league.... 🤔
Have they not won 3 intermediates in 4 years or something daft? Nearly makes me want to (boke) support the Tyronies in the interests of fairness.

oakleaflad

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 11, 2025, 10:23:03 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 11, 2025, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 11, 2025, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 10, 2025, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 10, 2025, 11:16:43 AMIntermediate semi finals, 3 x Div 1 teams (Derry, Cavan and Monaghan), 1 x Div 2 team, Clonoe

And Clonoe are probaly the favourites for the competition. Irvinestown were Division also 1. County players are only available for 1 league game in Cavan . It has no bearing.
Fermanagh afaik only has two divisions.

Glenullin beat the 2024 All Ireland club winners en route to a top ten finish in the Derry league, the club that finished 10th in Armagh played in the SFC final. Here's hoping for a Clonoe/Carrickmacross final


Glenullin should be playing senior, that's the grade they want to be in (but for restructuring / a year of Covid they would) . Glenullin beating a Watty's reserve team in the league.... 🤔
Have they not won 3 intermediates in 4 years or something daft? Nearly makes me want to (boke) support the Tyronies in the interests of fairness.
Not Glenullin's fault in fairness. It's Derry county board who hadn't the stones to follow through and relegate clubs like they said they would. Again, if Derry did things properly and had a third of it's clubs in each championships they'd have teams of at least this strength winning every year. Even this year multiple Intermediate clubs in Derry got within a 3 or 4 points of them, they just happen to have played a couple weaker sides in the competition in Ulster.

JoG2

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 11, 2025, 10:23:03 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 11, 2025, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 11, 2025, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 10, 2025, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 10, 2025, 11:16:43 AMIntermediate semi finals, 3 x Div 1 teams (Derry, Cavan and Monaghan), 1 x Div 2 team, Clonoe

And Clonoe are probaly the favourites for the competition. Irvinestown were Division also 1. County players are only available for 1 league game in Cavan . It has no bearing.
Fermanagh afaik only has two divisions.

Glenullin beat the 2024 All Ireland club winners en route to a top ten finish in the Derry league, the club that finished 10th in Armagh played in the SFC final. Here's hoping for a Clonoe/Carrickmacross final


Glenullin should be playing senior, that's the grade they want to be in (but for restructuring / a year of Covid they would) . Glenullin beating a Watty's reserve team in the league.... 🤔
Have they not won 3 intermediates in 4 years or something daft? Nearly makes me want to (boke) support the Tyronies in the interests of fairness.

That's on CB not Glenullin, I think they threatened to go down the legal route to get senior championship status.
If Derry didn't have 16 teams in Div 1 they'd be very strong at intermediate every year.
And in the middle of all this chat, let's not forget about little Arva 😁

rodney trotter

Why do Ulster
Quote from: JoG2 on November 11, 2025, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 11, 2025, 10:23:03 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 11, 2025, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 11, 2025, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 10, 2025, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 10, 2025, 11:16:43 AMIntermediate semi finals, 3 x Div 1 teams (Derry, Cavan and Monaghan), 1 x Div 2 team, Clonoe

And Clonoe are probaly the favourites for the competition. Irvinestown were Division also 1. County players are only available for 1 league game in Cavan . It has no bearing.
Fermanagh afaik only has two divisions.

Glenullin beat the 2024 All Ireland club winners en route to a top ten finish in the Derry league, the club that finished 10th in Armagh played in the SFC final. Here's hoping for a Clonoe/Carrickmacross final


Glenullin should be playing senior, that's the grade they want to be in (but for restructuring / a year of Covid they would) . Glenullin beating a Watty's reserve team in the league.... 🤔
Have they not won 3 intermediates in 4 years or something daft? Nearly makes me want to (boke) support the Tyronies in the interests of fairness.

That's on CB not Glenullin, I think they threatened to go down the legal route to get senior championship status.
If Derry didn't have 16 teams in Div 1 they'd be very strong at intermediate every year.
And in the middle of all this chat, let's not forget about little Arva 😁

I think Arva were discussed enough by yourself in previous years. Not relevant in 25.

JoG2


tiempo

Arva cheats beat Listowell cheats, so much proud

tintin25

From a neutral perspective, Glenullin's involvement in the Intermediate Championship is arguably more imbalanced than the Arva situation.  They've won the Derry Intermediate title three times since 2022!

JoG2

Quote from: tintin25 on November 11, 2025, 02:09:12 PMFrom a neutral perspective, Glenullin's involvement in the Intermediate Championship is arguably more imbalanced than the Arva situation.  They've won the Derry Intermediate title three times since 2022!

No it's not. Whilst Glenullin should be playing senior championship this year, they are playing a grade down. Arva, littered with county men played 2 grades down. They'd won the AI club before a county championship game was thrown in. It pushed Kerry's setup to the pin of it's collar.
Indeed Kerry's junior reps are, drum roll....Div 1. May as well hand them the AI jnr cup now

Wildweasel74

They never were a Senior team previous 2 times. This year I think they strong as they played a season in Division 1 and it's brought them on. Only reason they went up was because Derry reverted bck to the old system meaning 3/4 Intermediate teams went up to Division 1 instead cutting another couple to make a 12team Division 1.

oakleaflad

Quote from: JoG2 on November 11, 2025, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on November 11, 2025, 02:09:12 PMFrom a neutral perspective, Glenullin's involvement in the Intermediate Championship is arguably more imbalanced than the Arva situation.  They've won the Derry Intermediate title three times since 2022!

No it's not. Whilst Glenullin should be playing senior championship this year, they are playing a grade down. Arva, littered with county men played 2 grades down. They'd won the AI club before a county championship game was thrown in. It pushed Kerry's setup to the pin of it's collar.
Indeed Kerry's junior reps are, drum roll....Div 1. May as well hand them the AI jnr cup now
You could easily argue Glenullin shouldn't be playing senior championship this year. They failed to get past the quarter finals of the Derry Intermediate championship last year. If they did, they'd be playing senior championship this year.

What's happening here is counties are embarrassed at how their representatives are performing when truthfully their winners are at a low to mid Intermediate standard in other counties.

tiempo

Cavan and Kerry are cheating whatever about the rest

general_lee

Quote from: oakleaflad on November 11, 2025, 04:31:15 PMWhat's happening here is counties are embarrassed at how their representatives are performing when truthfully their winners are at a low to mid Intermediate standard in other counties.
Think people just want a level playing field, as much as is possible. Lavey hurlers playing Junior, Glenullin footballers playing Intermediate. Anything for a chance at handy silverware I suppose.

marty34

Quote from: general_lee on November 11, 2025, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on November 11, 2025, 04:31:15 PMWhat's happening here is counties are embarrassed at how their representatives are performing when truthfully their winners are at a low to mid Intermediate standard in other counties.
Think people just want a level playing field, as much as is possible. Lavey hurlers playing Junior, Glenullin footballers playing Intermediate. Anything for a chance at handy silverware I suppose.

It all depends on whether they win or not.

If they win their respective Ulster competitions, it'll never be lived down.

Whereas if they lose, it'll be forgot abot...in my opinion.

But Ulster GAA, via the counties, needs to do something about the level playing field.

Wildweasel74

#148
What do u want Lavey to do? There only 10 teams in Derry, how do u sort out Senior,intermediate and junior of that number. Sure only 3/4 counties put in at senior, some just junior. Did Ballinascreen not get murdered down south in their game last year. For all the years of promoting hurling the GAA give up on hurling in the North. There just not enough hurling men in these counties. Derry should have 20 hurling clubs but there nobody in these stand alone fball clubs who played hurling.

oakleaflad

Quote from: general_lee on November 11, 2025, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on November 11, 2025, 04:31:15 PMWhat's happening here is counties are embarrassed at how their representatives are performing when truthfully their winners are at a low to mid Intermediate standard in other counties.
Think people just want a level playing field, as much as is possible. Lavey hurlers playing Junior, Glenullin footballers playing Intermediate. Anything for a chance at handy silverware I suppose.
Glenullin footballers playing Intermediate is fine though. You'd have had a case 2-3 years ago and everyone, Glenullin included, would have agreed.
As said previously they didn't get promoted from the Intermediate championship last year. Our leagues and championship are separate. Another Div1 side were in the relegation playoffs of Intermediate this season having not won a championship game. And if we levelled the playing field you'd have the likes of Swatragh or Ballinascreen as our Intermediate representatives. Instead we're giving you all a chance by having almost half our clubs in the senior championship  ;)