The far right

[JoG2]

Maybe the 13% spoiled votes sent a message, after all?

I doubt it

Election didn't go as planned , capitalising on  the pressure on MM, and trying to butter up  the voters . They  are seeing what way the  feeling  is growing  re: immigration, and  it's juat sound bites to make it look like we're going to do something about it. When in reality , they'll do  absolutely nothing.

its all smoke and mirrors. More fool  those  who believe the slimey p***k

To what end, is it in their interests to do nothing? What do they gain from doing nothing in the current climate?

They will get the Pat on the back from the EU for been a good little country and doing its bit.

Leave the EU, is that your wish? Because that works out well

[AustinPowers]

Maybe the 13% spoiled votes sent a message, after all?

I doubt it

Election didn't go as planned , capitalising on  the pressure on MM, and trying to butter up  the voters . They  are seeing what way the  feeling  is growing  re: immigration, and  it's juat sound bites to make it look like we're going to do something about it. When in reality , they'll do  absolutely nothing.

its all smoke and mirrors. More fool  those  who believe the slimey p***k

To what end, is it in their interests to do nothing? What do they gain from doing nothing in the current climate?

Or you might ask , why  is it in their interests to DO something?

[Hand of God]

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1029/1541211-tanaiste-immigration/

A further shift to the right from FG in the aftermath of a bad election.

The govt parties have been dog whistling the far right since they began to raise their head but this seems to be immune from criticism.

Errrmmm, is he not THE government?

He is indeed.

He and his govt colleagues have been happy to allow this to happen as hoteliers and corporate landlords have been able to line their pockets with taxpayers money.

It's been a policy to land in large groups of immigrants to working class urban areas and rural towns and villages who do have the infrastructure and services to cope with such and it's been done without any consultation.

Now the same guys who have created this crisis are trying to dog whistle the far right and further try and pin the problem on immigrants themselves.

It's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.

[Genocide Organ]

It's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.

A lot of what you said is true, but it loses all credibility with this pathetic, cheap shot.

[Hand of God]

It's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.

A lot of what you said is true, but it loses all credibility with this pathetic, cheap shot.

It's pathetic and cheap to point out facts? Did you ever hear of Eoin O'Duffy and the Blueshirts? Are you aware of their history and origin?

[Armagh18]

It's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.

A lot of what you said is true, but it loses all credibility with this pathetic, cheap shot.

He ain't wrong for a change though.

[Genocide Organ]

It's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.

A lot of what you said is true, but it loses all credibility with this pathetic, cheap shot.

It's pathetic and cheap to point out facts? Did you ever hear of Eoin O'Duffy and the Blueshirts? Are you aware of their history and origin?

Of course I did. However, Fine Gael has nothing in common with fascism for over eighty years, and in fact cosied  up to the left to gain power for many years. I wouldn't even consider it a right-wing party.

[Hand of God]

Of course I did. However, Fine Gael has nothing in common with fascism for over eighty years, and in fact cosied  up to the left to gain power for many years. I wouldn't even consider it a right-wing party.

What utter, utter nonsense. Being neo liberal is not left wing, it's right wing? You are genuinely telling me people the Thatcherite policies of FG since they resumed power in 2011 are left wing?

Both FG and FF are considerably right of centre and have been for a very long time, FG for their entire existence.

You think the likes of your Bruton, Shatter, Charlie Flanagan, Madigan and Carroll MacNeill are left wing? You must be on crack.

[Genocide Organ]

They're socially liberal, and they cosied up to Labour, Democratic Left, and The Greens to get into power. I'd consider them centrists.

[Hand of God]

They're socially liberal, and they cosied up to Labour, Democratic Left, and The Greens to get into power. I'd consider them centrists.

None of those parties are of the left. They are centrists. Labour rolled out a draconian program or austerity in power.

When you say they are socially liberal that means they are neo liberal which is a right wing position.

They are right wing.

[Genocide Organ]

Whatever.

You are clearly extremely far to the left.

[Hand of God]

Whatever.

You are clearly extremely far to the left.

No I'm centre left.

I'm not a communist or Marxist. I do think the rich and elites should be taxed much and held accountable. I disagree with privatisation of vital services like health, energy, public transport and believe much more social housing should be provided. I think there should be far more regulation of businesses and industries than is happening at the minute, which has been a huge cause in the cost of living crisis and creating wealth inequality.

I have zero issue with immigration, immigrants are needed for certain jobs and contribute to the economy and we also owe it to ourselves to look after people fleeing war torn countries. I also acknowledge that the current system is a mess and ripe to abuse. The government are using mass immigration to enrich the wealthy without giving a toss about the communities they bring immigrants to or how the immigrants integrate with them.

I have no strong opinions on gay marriage, homosexuality, abortion etc, trans people etc. Each to their own....

Neo liberal (centre right) policies have left everything to the free market, have deregulated nearly all industries and allowed multi nationals, conglomerates and domestic oligarchs to gouge working class and middles class people. Only the left have the sincerity and good faith to reverse this. The far rights game is all about punching down and blaming and ostracising the most vulnerable.

There is nothing far or extreme left there. The issue is you are so far on the right that you deem anything left of your view as far left.

To actually consider FF or FG to be anywhere left is madness. They are very much right of centre. If you look at their groupings in the EU, they are both part of right wing and centre right blocs.

Their is no far left in Irish politics. We don't have a communist party, PBP are left wing but they are nowhere near far left.

[From the Bunker]

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1029/1541211-tanaiste-immigration/

A further shift to the right from FG in the aftermath of a bad election.

The govt parties have been dog whistling the far right since they began to raise their head but this seems to be immune from criticism.

Errrmmm, is he not THE government?

He is indeed.

He and his govt colleagues have been happy to allow this to happen as hoteliers and corporate landlords have been able to line their pockets with taxpayers money.

It's been a policy to land in large groups of immigrants to working class urban areas and rural towns and villages who do have the infrastructure and services to cope with such and it's been done without any consultation.

Now the same guys who have created this crisis are trying to wolf whistle the far right and further try and pin the problem on immigrants themselves.

It's grotesque but what would you expect from a party with it's history deep in fascism.

It's good to hear someone on here talk of the real issue. As i said before follow the money.....

[whitey]

I hope the open borders apologists aren't triggered by what Michael Martin just said this morning as follow up to Simon Harris's comments yesterday

https://gript.ie/martin-up-to-80-of-those-in-ipas-are-economic-migrants/?fbclid=IwY2xjawNxZ6ZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHj6eQ6oMkR1LQZ1sv0pfUlerWNwr0i23m5ZvNl_DqHwOrUXbOfUw7h7r_Vbj_aem_NTED_Ns3sRYQGWYvoLBrDw

My sincerest apologies for linking to a Gript article, but unfortunately (so far) RTE and other similarly reputable outlets havent picked up on these comments

I'm sure it will be on the front pages when they hear about it

[tonto1888]

not opening that but wondering where he is getting his data from