The far right

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Hand of God

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.



Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.

You have a brass neck.

Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.

Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...

They are fascists and thugs, that goes without saying and its a terrible shame on our society that these people have mobilised in the past 10 years. Racism and hate can only really grow and develop in a dysfunctional society. The housing crisis, wealth inequality, cost of living have people disillusioned with matters. There are a lot of angry, misguided people and sadly the breeding ground for the far right is working class communities. They are stuck in a poverty trap, they don't see themselves owning houses or having the lives they see others have.

There is a rising and global far right movement and neo-liberal policies have made the perfect breeding ground to attract young, uneducated, anrgy disillusioned people (predominantly from working class communities) who feel alienated from society and rather than the governments who have created the policies where wealth inequality has grown, the far right have infilitrated these communities and told them that foreigners are the problem. It's a desperately sad state of affairs.

I think the government have enabled the far right by using kiddy gloves in relation to them. We have seen heavy handed Gardai presence at left wing peaceful demonstrations over the years but they have done very little to combat these aggressive and violent demonstrations by the far right over the past 3/4 years.

RedHand88

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.



Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.

You have a brass neck.

Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.

Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...

What's the message of the rioters? Sexual assault is bad? Groundbreaking stuff.
29% of adults in Ireland experienced sexual assault as a minor. 3407 cases of sexual assault in 2023.
What's different here or why the sudden interest?

Armagh18

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 22, 2025, 10:24:20 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.



Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.

You have a brass neck.

Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.

Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...

What's the message of the rioters? Sexual assault is bad? Groundbreaking stuff.
29% of adults in Ireland experienced sexual assault as a minor. 3407 cases of sexual assault in 2023.
What's different here or why the sudden interest?
f**king hell thats a wild stat!

RedHand88

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 22, 2025, 10:24:20 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.



Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.

You have a brass neck.

Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.

Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...

What's the message of the rioters? Sexual assault is bad? Groundbreaking stuff.
29% of adults in Ireland experienced sexual assault as a minor. 3407 cases of sexual assault in 2023.
What's different here or why the sudden interest?
f**king hell thats a wild stat!

Indeed.

https://www.drcc.ie/news-resources/sexual-violence-information/sexual-violence-prevalence/

thewobbler

Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:18:19 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.



Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.

You have a brass neck.

Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.

Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...

They are fascists and thugs, that goes without saying and its a terrible shame on our society that these people have mobilised in the past 10 years. Racism and hate can only really grow and develop in a dysfunctional society. The housing crisis, wealth inequality, cost of living have people disillusioned with matters. There are a lot of angry, misguided people and sadly the breeding ground for the far right is working class communities. They are stuck in a poverty trap, they don't see themselves owning houses or having the lives they see others have.

There is a rising and global far right movement and neo-liberal policies have made the perfect breeding ground to attract young, uneducated, anrgy disillusioned people (predominantly from working class communities) who feel alienated from society and rather than the governments who have created the policies where wealth inequality has grown, the far right have infilitrated these communities and told them that foreigners are the problem. It's a desperately sad state of affairs.

I think the government have enabled the far right by using kiddy gloves in relation to them. We have seen heavy handed Gardai presence at left wing peaceful demonstrations over the years but they have done very little to combat these aggressive and violent demonstrations by the far right over the past 3/4 years.


So to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.

——

Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.

You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.




PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:18:19 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.



Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.

You have a brass neck.

Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.

Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...

They are fascists and thugs, that goes without saying and its a terrible shame on our society that these people have mobilised in the past 10 years. Racism and hate can only really grow and develop in a dysfunctional society. The housing crisis, wealth inequality, cost of living have people disillusioned with matters. There are a lot of angry, misguided people and sadly the breeding ground for the far right is working class communities. They are stuck in a poverty trap, they don't see themselves owning houses or having the lives they see others have.

There is a rising and global far right movement and neo-liberal policies have made the perfect breeding ground to attract young, uneducated, anrgy disillusioned people (predominantly from working class communities) who feel alienated from society and rather than the governments who have created the policies where wealth inequality has grown, the far right have infilitrated these communities and told them that foreigners are the problem. It's a desperately sad state of affairs.

I think the government have enabled the far right by using kiddy gloves in relation to them. We have seen heavy handed Gardai presence at left wing peaceful demonstrations over the years but they have done very little to combat these aggressive and violent demonstrations by the far right over the past 3/4 years.


So to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.

——

Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.

You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.





that's a very poor summary.

Would protesting Govt  be a better use of time than targeting the 'foreigners', it might be worth clarifying which 'foreigners' you mean too.

Armagh18

Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:18:19 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.



Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.

You have a brass neck.

Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.

Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...

They are fascists and thugs, that goes without saying and its a terrible shame on our society that these people have mobilised in the past 10 years. Racism and hate can only really grow and develop in a dysfunctional society. The housing crisis, wealth inequality, cost of living have people disillusioned with matters. There are a lot of angry, misguided people and sadly the breeding ground for the far right is working class communities. They are stuck in a poverty trap, they don't see themselves owning houses or having the lives they see others have.

There is a rising and global far right movement and neo-liberal policies have made the perfect breeding ground to attract young, uneducated, anrgy disillusioned people (predominantly from working class communities) who feel alienated from society and rather than the governments who have created the policies where wealth inequality has grown, the far right have infilitrated these communities and told them that foreigners are the problem. It's a desperately sad state of affairs.

I think the government have enabled the far right by using kiddy gloves in relation to them. We have seen heavy handed Gardai presence at left wing peaceful demonstrations over the years but they have done very little to combat these aggressive and violent demonstrations by the far right over the past 3/4 years.


So to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.

——

Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.

You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.




I think there should be peaceful protests- the whole asylum/immigration system needs updated to provide a safe opportunity  for people coming here to work/better their lives, quick decisions need made and people who have applied need told yes or no and if no then deported asap.

Scumbags burning things should be dealt with appropriately. Genuine concerns of communities need listened too and incidents like what happened to that young girl are vile and should never have happened.

The people weaponising that to riot are scum and are being urged on by the super rich and their puppets- Musk, Farage, McGregor etc..

Hand of God

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Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:11:08 AMSo to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.

——

Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.

You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.





Where were these guys when the FFG governments were imposing austerity on its population, when they were placing a crippling national debt on the population? When they were selling national resources and assets to foreign investors for a song. When they were eroding the public health service, when they were creating a housing crisis and using private and commercial landlords to profit from solving it?

They were nowhere, they were sitting at home and not politically active. Before Covid the south was in the midst of a housing crisis, the health system was crippled every Winter.

But when immigration starts to ramp up, that's when these easily led, unedcuated people begin to find their voice. Conincidence?

I think you are exposing yourself to be a very nasty and cynical person here. I believe you are more educated than some of those guys who know better which makes your views all the more concerning.

The framing of the first part of your post is disingenuous. There was a young girl at the centre of a horrific sexual assault. These racist thugs don't care about that girl, they are cynically exploiting her to spread incite hatred and violence against immigrants. Its a bit like what happened up in Ballymena, the crime doesn't matter to racists - only the perpetrator.

Its depressing to see Irish people sinking to the level of loyalism. Are you a loyalist?

Look-Up!

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 22, 2025, 11:19:04 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:18:19 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.



Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.

You have a brass neck.

Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.

Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...

They are fascists and thugs, that goes without saying and its a terrible shame on our society that these people have mobilised in the past 10 years. Racism and hate can only really grow and develop in a dysfunctional society. The housing crisis, wealth inequality, cost of living have people disillusioned with matters. There are a lot of angry, misguided people and sadly the breeding ground for the far right is working class communities. They are stuck in a poverty trap, they don't see themselves owning houses or having the lives they see others have.

There is a rising and global far right movement and neo-liberal policies have made the perfect breeding ground to attract young, uneducated, anrgy disillusioned people (predominantly from working class communities) who feel alienated from society and rather than the governments who have created the policies where wealth inequality has grown, the far right have infilitrated these communities and told them that foreigners are the problem. It's a desperately sad state of affairs.

I think the government have enabled the far right by using kiddy gloves in relation to them. We have seen heavy handed Gardai presence at left wing peaceful demonstrations over the years but they have done very little to combat these aggressive and violent demonstrations by the far right over the past 3/4 years.


So to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.

——

Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.

You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.





that's a very poor summary.

Would protesting Govt  be a better use of time than targeting the 'foreigners', it might be worth clarifying which 'foreigners' you mean too.
There probably should be a distinction between genuinely concerned locals and scumbags who go on the rampage. I'd say a lot of the locals are angry over what they see as a lack of consultation with their community on the opening of the centre and no follow up of support services to cope with the influx of people to the area. This is a nationwide problem.
I don't think telling them to go somewhere else to protest would be helpful. They will see that as just being told to lump it or being gaslit, something they feel the government has being doing all along anyway. It's the centre they're unhappy with so they'll protest at the centre. Unfortunately once an incident like the assault happens people are going to lose their minds. FFS parents with young children in the area are rightly going to get their backs up. Who wants incidents like that in the area. So more people than normal will turn out. And unfortunately that's going to attract elements that behave like animals.
I don't know what the answer is. It's not going to be pretty and it's not going to be isolated. But if the government deal in an appropriate way with the no.1 sc**bag in this incident, the abuser, and government can actually implement an asylum and vetting system that isn't a joke, incidents like this may be less volatile in future. But seeing the likes of Roderic O'Gorman living it up on instagram with stupid posts of some gig or other he's at, all while this shite is going on, will not fill such people with confidence in government. It's extremely bad optics.

tonto1888

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 22, 2025, 10:24:20 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.



Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.

You have a brass neck.

Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.

Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...

What's the message of the rioters? Sexual assault is bad? Groundbreaking stuff.
29% of adults in Ireland experienced sexual assault as a minor. 3407 cases of sexual assault in 2023.
What's different here or why the sudden interest?

oh I think we all know the answer to this

DaleCooper

"Unedcuated"

"Conincidence"

Its beautiful

Hand of God

Quote from: DaleCooper on October 22, 2025, 11:48:34 AM"Unedcuated"

"Conincidence"

Its beautiful

What do you disagree with?

thewobbler

Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:11:08 AMSo to summarise: those who would like stricter controls on foreigners entering their community are the uneducated puppets of the billionaire classes, and our state police should line them up and beat the shit of them until they are more tolerant.

——

Every time a member of the self-anointed "educated left" speaks, I honestly feel like crying.

You're a bigger part of this problem than you'll ever understand.





Where were these guys when the FFG governments were imposing austerity on its population, when they were placing a crippling national debt on the population? When they were selling national resources and assets to foreign investors for a song. When they were eroding the public health service, when they were creating a housing crisis and using private and commercial landlords to profit from solving it?

They were nowhere, they were sitting at home and not politically active. Before Covid the south was in the midst of a housing crisis, the health system was crippled every Winter.

But when immigration starts to ramp up, that's when these easily led, unedcuated people begin to find their voice. Conincidence?

I think you are exposing yourself to be a very nasty and cynical person here. I believe you are more educated than some of those guys who know better which makes your views all the more concerning.

The framing of the first part of your post is disingenuous. There was a young girl at the centre of a horrific sexual assault. These racist thugs don't care about that girl, they are cynically exploiting her to spread incite hatred and violence against immigrants. Its a bit like what happened up in Ballymena, the crime doesn't matter to racists - only the perpetrator.

Its depressing to see Irish people sinking to the level of loyalism. Are you a loyalist?

And I think you're exposing yourself as fulfilling the "self appointed educated left" juxtaposition, whereby you are capable of showing extreme tolerance of everyone and everything.... but only as long as they share your political views.



Rossfan

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 22, 2025, 10:24:20 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 22, 2025, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 22, 2025, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2025, 09:23:50 AMFascists and ne'er do well scumbags at it again.



Using the exact same tactics you use with Paul Quinn.

You have a brass neck.

Horrendous scenes in Dublin last night, its depressing to see racism and hate permeating across Irish society as it has done in the past 10 years.
Not like me to agree with Rossfan, but he's dead right with that post.

Those protests should be outside the Dail. Wtf is burning vehicles going to achieve, wrecking your own community...

What's the message of the rioters? Sexual assault is bad? Groundbreaking stuff.
29% of adults in Ireland experienced sexual assault as a minor. 3407 cases of sexual assault in 2023.
What's different here or why the sudden interest?
We all know the answer to that😉
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Hand of God

Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2025, 11:57:25 AMAnd I think you're exposing yourself as fulfilling the "self appointed educated left" juxtaposition, whereby you are capable of showing extreme tolerance of everyone and everything.... but only as long as they share your political views.




You're exposing yourself as small minded and a defender of far right thugs exploiting a young girl at the centre of a heinous crime for really sinister objectives.

Were you defending the loyalist thugs in Ballymena months back as well?