A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Are you saying,like many others, the last people we need promoting an AI outcome are Shinners?

There are plenty of articulate nationalists that can do the job so zero reason to send in someone who is clearly not up to it. I don't mind which party they are from as long as they are articulate and sensible and can sell unity to the middle ground

[DaleCooper]

For a UI to work the North needs to work.

You can look to west Belfast for the governing skills of the majority party. SF is Extraordinarily good at getting elected , keeping its loyal base placated with carrots but it exists for its own sake/cause.

The public sector axe needs to fall but isn't going to.

Look at how many people each elected rep handles.

21,000 per MLA
29,000 per TD

In UK it's 100,000 per MP


Vested interests and cyncial players don't want to do anything radical, and the old loyalties guarantee the sectarian cycle.

[RedHand88]

Michelle's tactic was to keep going to "we were treated badly". I'm not sure you can keep going to that well over and over when:
1) Society has massively changed since the GFA and we are not treated badly anymore.
2) There are a generation of peace babies coming through who will have no idea what she is talking about.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Michelle's tactic was to keep going to "we were treated badly". I'm not sure you can keep going to that well over and over when:
1) Society has massively changed since the GFA and we are not treated badly anymore.
2) There are a generation of peace babies coming through who will have no idea what she is talking about.

She couldn't even do that well. Bryson and Gibson had her snookered. She couldn't clearly state any discrimination she had suffered and wasn't able to steer the conversation back to the actual obvious discrimination that did happen. Gibson was then able to nonsense the whole idea of discrimination/inequality because he came from a poor background, it would have been very easy to come back at him with any number of examples but she didn't land a single blow.

[Pub Bore]

Haven't listened to that podcast but was it just a re-hash of the Troubles with a sprinkling of gotcha questions thrown in? "Do you condemn this?" "Was that justified?"

[Pub Bore]

Michelle throws Michelle under the bus:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v1p2r914ro

[Armagh18]

Michelle throws Michelle under the bus:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v1p2r914ro

Michelle would want to wise up.

[RedHand88]

Michelle throws Michelle under the bus:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v1p2r914ro

Michelle would want to wise up.

Which Michelle? Lol

[Armagh18]

Michelle throws Michelle under the bus:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v1p2r914ro

Michelle would want to wise up.

Which Michelle? Lol

no comment.

Tricky one for O'Neill. She'll piss a lot of people off by saying that killing wasn't justified, but she won't turn those people off voting for a United Ireland. She'd obviously piss off a lot of middle ground voters if she said the killings were justified.

[playwiththewind1st]

Gildernew said she had not spoken to O'Neill since she had been informed her contract was being ended by Sinn Féin, but described her relationship with the first minister as "okay".

The 2 of them clearly haven't been best buddies for quite some time & Sinn Féin has never really clarified why Gildernew fell so far down the pecking order, so quickly.

Describing their relationship as "Okay" wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

[DaleCooper]

The discrimination had to be overplayed in order to justify killing. Same with labelling people bigots, its easier to kill what you already hate.


Do sinn fein have no men now?

Embarrassing spectacle.

[Truthsayer]

The discrimination had to be overplayed in order to justify killing. Same with labelling people bigots, its easier to kill what you already hate.


Do sinn fein have no men now?

Embarrassing spectacle.

Is police beating people off the streets and army shooting dead 14 of them for protesting for Civil Rights 'overplaying' discrimination?... unfair allocation of housing, jobs, more votes per land with Protestants invariably the big property and land owners. It wasn't people's imagination.. there was discrimination... "a Protestant parliament for a Protestant people"

[DaleCooper]

You must have very small hands

[Truthsayer]

You must have very small hands

Like your brain...

[DaleCooper]

Since when had civil rights anything to do with a United Ireland? No one killed for civil rights. Provisionism as I call it, has been brutally effective.