Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Rossfan]

BRING BACK THE HANDPASS GOAL

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Throw points need to go too.

The throw /palmed  goals too

Clear fist only

We talk about bringing kicking back into the game and limiting handpassing yet we allow players to score using their hands.
All scores must be kicked with the foot. End of.

Would ge interesting to see that trialled in the sandbox.

[thebigfullforward]

I'd scrap the square ball rule too. Completely.

That's one I do think needs to go. Pretty much a cop out for the ref if a team drops one into the square. Some refs renowned for calling it and then for about 80% of the season you'd forget it's still a rule

[thebigfullforward]

For people wanting rid of the fisted point what's your thought's on this point https://youtu.be/UJPZScbh7BQ?feature=shared does everything right but if he was to go for the kick point it would've been blocked. Thought everyone was in favour for more scoring

[Armagh18]

For people wanting rid of the fisted point what's your thought's on this point https://youtu.be/UJPZScbh7BQ?feature=shared does everything right but if he was to go for the kick point it would've been blocked. Thought everyone was in favour for more scoring

No idea why anyone would want to add more restrictions on the game. Nothing wrong with a fisted point.

[David McKeown]

For people wanting rid of the fisted point what's your thought's on this point https://youtu.be/UJPZScbh7BQ?feature=shared does everything right but if he was to go for the kick point it would've been blocked. Thought everyone was in favour for more scoring

Plenty of opportunities to kick a point there but scorns them for the more likely fisted option.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

For people wanting rid of the fisted point what's your thought's on this point https://youtu.be/UJPZScbh7BQ?feature=shared does everything right but if he was to go for the kick point it would've been blocked. Thought everyone was in favour for more scoring

Shite ending.
Still has a lot to do....oh aye, he's allowed to just fcuk it over the bar.
Why not allow handpassed goals if it is more scores you want? Because it is pure scutter, that's why.

[EoinW]

Is always people opposed to change .. exactly that.. A 'No' mentality. Believe it or not, I recall when rules were changed to allow frees and lineballs to be taken out of the hands and there was ones totally opposed.. Always 'no' men..

Of course there are...in every sport.  We're known as traditionalists.

However it isn't ALWAYS NO.  It varies as people's opinions vary.  You should never belittle other's opinions by generalizing.

This is the problem I have with some fans.  They treat traditional views with little respect.

Been a bad 140 years for the "tradionalists".
Point posts, goals outweighing any number of points, goal equalling 5 points, 21 aside, 17 aside,no carrying the ball, sideline throws, 16 players lining up for the throw  in, kissing the bishops ring,the ban.....all gone!
Adding nets, big square, small D, big D, allowing frees from the hand, women referees, red, yellow and black cards,.......

Yes indeed.  We've never recovered from that William Webb Ellis character.

Change happens, that's life.  Traditionalists try to moderate it, progressives less so.  We gradually lose every time but that's ok.  No reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.

I'll tell you about the version of the game that you so fondly reminisce.

1. It was only made possible in 1990 after kicking frees and sidelines from the hand came into play.

2. It first reared its head in 2011, when Jimmy McGuinness clocked that prioritising possession v territory was the ultimate mindfuck in the game.

3. It began filtering through the adult game in 2013.

So this "tradition" you talk utter tripe on repeat about, it represents about 10-11 years of the association's 140.

Stop trying trying to pretend you've some kind of cultural / traditional leg up. You don't.

My personal history with the game goes back to 2011(I have mentioned that before).  I can't wax lyrical about anything before then.

Which is why I was writing about traditionalism in all sports, not just GAA.

Though it hasn't been mentioned, this does lead to a fair point that ones idea of traditional is the game they first fell in love with...usually growing up with.  Thus you are correct, I've no monopoly on tradition...certainly not GAA tradition.

This doesn't change the fact that there are two clear camps in conflict: those who favour many of the changes and those who favour almost none.  I'm guilty of simply calling one group progressives and the other traditionalist.

If you wish to crucify me over semantics then knock yourself out.  My main point about 2025 remains consistent.  That there was no need for all the massive changes at once.  Yes I do suspect the GAA/FRC of having an ulterior motive for such a drastic action.  Basically remaking the game because they award themselves the power to do so.

Never underestimate how much ego can motivate people in authority.

[Rossfan]

Congress changed the rules.

[Mad Mentor]

Over the last decade the game had become like the sprint race in cycling where only the end might be exciting.

This years All Ireland final would have been a lot more entertaining if Donegal had shown a bit more faith in themselves and really gone for it in the second half.

[EoinW]

Congress changed the rules.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the FRC introduced the new rules, not Congress.  Plus there is a small group of decision makers now trialing 4 pt goals and different hand-kick passing rules.  Congress gets a yes or no vote.  They don't initiate anything...except to give its permission to change the rules.

I understand the entire GAA association will have the final say on the changes, which is good.  However my cynical side has seen a season long media propaganda campaign in support of all the rule changes.  Manufactured consent?

[Rossfan]

Stop embarrassing yourself

[Truthsayer]

Congress changed the rules.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the FRC introduced the new rules, not Congress.  Plus there is a small group of decision makers now trialing 4 pt goals and different hand-kick passing rules.  Congress gets a yes or no vote.  They don't initiate anything...except to give its permission to change the rules.

I understand the entire GAA association will have the final say on the changes, which is good.  However my cynical side has seen a season long media propaganda campaign in support of all the rule changes.  Manufactured consent?

Conspiracy theorists have really come into their own since Covid 😄
I go to a lot of club games and an amount of county games and know of no body of supporters against the new rules.. glad to see a bit of football played. Seems to be a few here vehemently against the rules and railing against everything just about.
 

[EoinW]

Congress changed the rules.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the FRC introduced the new rules, not Congress.  Plus there is a small group of decision makers now trialing 4 pt goals and different hand-kick passing rules.  Congress gets a yes or no vote.  They don't initiate anything...except to give its permission to change the rules.

I understand the entire GAA association will have the final say on the changes, which is good.  However my cynical side has seen a season long media propaganda campaign in support of all the rule changes.  Manufactured consent?

Conspiracy theorists have really come into their own since Covid 😄
I go to a lot of club games and an amount of county games and know of no body of supporters against the new rules.. glad to see a bit of football played. Seems to be a few here vehemently against the rules and railing against everything just about.
 

Excuse my ignorance.  I try to have a civil exchange of ideas with people and am continually met with personal insults from the "other" side.  You think that's going to win your opinions any respect from me?

Why did they make so many rule changes - some having nothing to do with the problems they claimed to be fixing - when simply adding the tab and go would have been a huge positive to the game?

It's not a conspiracy to ask what might motivate the decision makers?

Of course you bored guys got what you want, a more entertaining game.  Therefore I should just shut up, stop embarrassing myself, and not dare challenge you all to think.

[David McKeown]

Congress changed the rules.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the FRC introduced the new rules, not Congress.  Plus there is a small group of decision makers now trialing 4 pt goals and different hand-kick passing rules.  Congress gets a yes or no vote.  They don't initiate anything...except to give its permission to change the rules.

I understand the entire GAA association will have the final say on the changes, which is good.  However my cynical side has seen a season long media propaganda campaign in support of all the rule changes.  Manufactured consent?

Conspiracy theorists have really come into their own since Covid 😄
I go to a lot of club games and an amount of county games and know of no body of supporters against the new rules.. glad to see a bit of football played. Seems to be a few here vehemently against the rules and railing against everything just about.
 

That's strangely the opposite of my experience where most of the people I talk to at matches are opposed to at least most of the new rules. In fact I don't think I've met anyone in support of all of them.

[JoG2]

Congress changed the rules.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the FRC introduced the new rules, not Congress.  Plus there is a small group of decision makers now trialing 4 pt goals and different hand-kick passing rules.  Congress gets a yes or no vote.  They don't initiate anything...except to give its permission to change the rules.

I understand the entire GAA association will have the final say on the changes, which is good.  However my cynical side has seen a season long media propaganda campaign in support of all the rule changes.  Manufactured consent?

Conspiracy theorists have really come into their own since Covid 😄
I go to a lot of club games and an amount of county games and know of no body of supporters against the new rules.. glad to see a bit of football played. Seems to be a few here vehemently against the rules and railing against everything just about.
 

Excuse my ignorance.  I try to have a civil exchange of ideas with people and am continually met with personal insults from the "other" side.  You think that's going to win your opinions any respect from me?

Why did they make so many rule changes - some having nothing to do with the problems they claimed to be fixing - when simply adding the tab and go would have been a huge positive to the game?

It's not a conspiracy to ask what might motivate the decision makers?

Of course you bored guys got what you want, a more entertaining game.  Therefore I should just shut up, stop embarrassing myself, and not dare challenge you all to think.

I can only speak for myself, but if I need to think I'll reach out 👍