Antrim Football Thread

[Milltown Row2]

Bad job a referee treats young cubs that badly he's sent home from the feile.

Sent a young fella off for nothing got him a 2 game ban ruled him out, called another cub an embarrassment to his club and family, awarded a free against because in his words "he woke up crabit"

Nobody gets sent off for nothing, what game was this?

[BigGreenField]

Why not- rather than talk about teams under age coming together to field and play- address the real issue?

West Belfast has far too many GAA clubs?

Remove at at least 6 clubs need combined and reduced to 3

I don't think there is, if anything there is not enough and in particular a chronic shortage of facilities putting a cap on playing numbers. Lot of house building going on and guts of 20,000 kids under age of 16.

West of Sarsfields  I think it's an underserved playing population where soccer is currently dominant. Colin Gaels are doing some good work but haven't made the leap to a senior team.

Different if you are talking about players competing at highest level and for that the Kerry divisional model beckons.

[Around the glens]

Bad job a referee treats young cubs that badly he's sent home from the feile.

Sent a young fella off for nothing got him a 2 game ban ruled him out, called another cub an embarrassment to his club and family, awarded a free against because in his words "he woke up crabit"

Nobody gets sent off for nothing, what game was this?

Dunloys first 2 feile games, had the same referee. There was no striking no tackle, asked for name and sent off. The same referee that said "no other refs would give that free but I woke up crabit"
Boys from the Loup said he's constantly at that carry on.

[Take the Mark]

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"no other refs would give that free but I woke up crabit"
 
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Ah come off it ffs

[Spike]

Why not- rather than talk about teams under age coming together to field and play- address the real issue?

West Belfast has far too many GAA clubs?

Remove at at least 6 clubs need combined and reduced to 3

I don't think there is, if anything there is not enough and in particular a chronic shortage of facilities putting a cap on playing numbers. Lot of house building going on and guts of 20,000 kids under age of 16.

West of Sarsfields  I think it's an underserved playing population where soccer is currently dominant. Colin Gaels are doing some good work but haven't made the leap to a senior team.

Different if you are talking about players competing at highest level and for that the Kerry divisional model beckons.

Agree.    its the game promotion that is lacking.

Over the years ive attended a lot of u6 to u14 Blitz / matches and the Belfast clubs are always coming with good numbers. Usually they have good representation and lots of coaches and helpers.  i am not at every single one so but i am at a good amount and thats what i see.  It definitely starts to thin out after 14 years old particularly at clubs not winning.

But the amount of games called off or cancelled or postponed indefinitely against Belfast opposition is sizeable.  This is a rarity in the SW where the vast majority of matches are played.  What can be done about this to make sure kids have guaranteed matches? 

[johnnycool]

Meanwhile across the Lagan, in the leafy suburbs known as Carryduff they had 7 teams at P4, all with 7 kids on each team and that was in hurling at the last Down primary school blitz.

I'd hate to see what they have at the football...

[Around the glens]

"no other refs would give that free but I woke up crabit"
 
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Ah come off it ffs
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There was enough there to hear it. Calling a young cub at u15 an embarrassment to his club and family. When he was told to grab his stuff and get into the car speaks volumes.

[Take the Mark]

Are we expected to guess who this allegedly was? Was it even an Antrim referee?

[Milltown Row2]

Are we expected to guess who this allegedly was? Was it even an Antrim referee?

No

[imtommygunn]

St brigids are a club that were badly needed in that area... you have clubs every drop of a hat in west Belfast and you had one south Belfast club.

[Milltown Row2]

In fairness only one club (in the SW) has dominated the senior football championship.

I believe the hurling can be better, but goes back to what I've suggested as in having hurling only clubs, possibly 3 or 4 ..

Rossa and St John's can be competitive at times but having a hurling only club would allow for years of single code training and prep for creating better competition..

It's about who's willing to bend! A simple solution would be for clubs to still have their juvenile set ups but come senior it's about committing to the hurling club..

I've absolutely no way of knowing how that will pan out, but if we keep doing the same things we'll keep getting the same results

The football will turn, it always does, always cycles

[Take the Mark]

You can talk about reaching finals all you want but nobody really looked like winning 1 during the dominant years of St Galls. After which Cargin have dominated apart from 2 blips when Lamh Dhearg and Creggan got 1 each. I say these were blips because neither of those teams featured after their wins.

Creggan certainly have the potential to get there this year but its not a given. LD, do not.

[Caesar]

St Galls were a truly outstanding team but the club didn't have the "conveyor belt" of young talent coming through to keep them at the top. The interesting thing about Cargin at the moment is the amount of youth already being blooded into their senior team.

As I've said before, this is a Cargin team supposedly in transition and even if St Brigids or Creeggan get over the line this year, I'd expect Cargin to remain the team to beat for a long time yet.

[NAG1]

St Galls were a truly outstanding team but the club didn't have the "conveyor belt" of young talent coming through to keep them at the top. The interesting thing about Cargin at the moment is the amount of youth already being blooded into their senior team.

As I've said before, this is a Cargin team supposedly in transition and even if St Brigids or Creeggan get over the line this year, I'd expect Cargin to remain the team to beat for a long time yet.

Genuine question, where is that assumption coming from?
I might have missed it but I don't see Cargin competing strongly at any of the juvenile ages groups. So when that group of experienced players eventually go, there just doesn't seem to be the quality to replace.

Or maybe I have missed something?

[Caesar]

St Galls were a truly outstanding team but the club didn't have the "conveyor belt" of young talent coming through to keep them at the top. The interesting thing about Cargin at the moment is the amount of youth already being blooded into their senior team.

As I've said before, this is a Cargin team supposedly in transition and even if St Brigids or Creeggan get over the line this year, I'd expect Cargin to remain the team to beat for a long time yet.

Genuine question, where is that assumption coming from?
I might have missed it but I don't see Cargin competing strongly at any of the juvenile ages groups. So when that group of experienced players eventually go, there just doesn't seem to be the quality to replace.

Or maybe I have missed something?

I'm looking more at the group currently breaking into senior level, and you'd probably expect to be about for the next 10 years or so. The point I'm making is that they appear to be blooding this new talent well already and that stands them in good stead for the future.

That said, it will be near impossible to replace some of their more experienced players and I certainly don't expect them to remain as dominant ever year, but I do expect them to be one of the top sides for the foreseeable