Antrim Football Thread

[Around the glens]

Bad job a referee treats young cubs that badly he's sent home from the feile.

Sent a young fella off for nothing got him a 2 game ban ruled him out, called another cub an embarrassment to his club and family, awarded a free against because in his words "he woke up crabit"

[Antrim]

There are many reasons, some flakey for sure.. If, let's take us as a starter, we fielded with just our own we'd struggle to consistently get teams out hurling, this 'arrangement' benefits the clubs involved and allows lads to play at a higher level..

It's not what we'd like but if you look up and down the country there are hundreds of 'new' clubs born out of falling numbers..

Personally I just want Belfast hurling (mainly for me) to be better.

The age thing for me is a hindrance at juvenile, it didn't do us any harm to play levels well above our age but certainly provides problems now to field

I dont understand how you keep saying youre lads get to play at a higher level as part of Ard na ri when they are playing in Div 2 and minor B champ. Thats the lowest level we have. Gort and LD are the same. Its not fair on the single clubs doing it by themselves. They should be forced to be play Div 1 and A championship.

If a club has to amalgamate then its a bit embarasing if you ask me

There are 2 ages to that team at all county, one is in div 1 and the other div 2 which we have played 2 games..

and if you are going to use embarrassing spell it correctly as its embarrassing 

Sorry if my spelling isnt as good as yours. 

The problem with what your saying is that it isnt true.

They have one team at that age and they are playing in div 2. They dont have a team in div 1. Now if your going to come on and say something about your club you at least should be correct with your facts. Especially when everyone here knows how to look at the div 1 minor leagues and see that there is no st Galls or Ard na ri there. Now that is embarrassing.

At under 16 hurling div 1 we have 3 amalgamations, Naomh Padraig, Ar Na Ri and Glenariffe/Glenravel.

At Minor we have Ar Na Ri in div2, so I've probably incorrectly stated that, but we have younger teams at under 14 that played at A Feile last month ... So we have teams that play at A grade, just not at minor, so you are half right

Theres no 'half right' here. You said they had two teams at minor hurling one playing A and one playing B.

Its ok to be wrong.

So the facts are that Ard na ri have a massive panel and playing div 2 and minor b. Nobody mentioned u16 or u14. They have played 2 games because the other teams know their in for a tanking and I dont blame them. It's your own fault.

[Take the Mark]

Bad job a referee treats young cubs that badly he's sent home from the feile.

Sent a young fella off for nothing got him a 2 game ban ruled him out, called another cub an embarrassment to his club and family, awarded a free against because in his words "he woke up crabit"

Thats most mornings for MR2

[Milltown Row2]

There are many reasons, some flakey for sure.. If, let's take us as a starter, we fielded with just our own we'd struggle to consistently get teams out hurling, this 'arrangement' benefits the clubs involved and allows lads to play at a higher level..

It's not what we'd like but if you look up and down the country there are hundreds of 'new' clubs born out of falling numbers..

Personally I just want Belfast hurling (mainly for me) to be better.

The age thing for me is a hindrance at juvenile, it didn't do us any harm to play levels well above our age but certainly provides problems now to field

I dont understand how you keep saying youre lads get to play at a higher level as part of Ard na ri when they are playing in Div 2 and minor B champ. Thats the lowest level we have. Gort and LD are the same. Its not fair on the single clubs doing it by themselves. They should be forced to be play Div 1 and A championship.

If a club has to amalgamate then its a bit embarasing if you ask me

There are 2 ages to that team at all county, one is in div 1 and the other div 2 which we have played 2 games..

and if you are going to use embarrassing spell it correctly as its embarrassing 

Sorry if my spelling isnt as good as yours. 

The problem with what your saying is that it isnt true.

They have one team at that age and they are playing in div 2. They dont have a team in div 1. Now if your going to come on and say something about your club you at least should be correct with your facts. Especially when everyone here knows how to look at the div 1 minor leagues and see that there is no st Galls or Ard na ri there. Now that is embarrassing.

At under 16 hurling div 1 we have 3 amalgamations, Naomh Padraig, Ar Na Ri and Glenariffe/Glenravel.

At Minor we have Ar Na Ri in div2, so I've probably incorrectly stated that, but we have younger teams at under 14 that played at A Feile last month ... So we have teams that play at A grade, just not at minor, so you are half right

Theres no 'half right' here. You said they had two teams at minor hurling one playing A and one playing B.

Its ok to be wrong.

So the facts are that Ard na ri have a massive panel and playing div 2 and minor b. Nobody mentioned u16 or u14. They have played 2 games because the other teams know their in for a tanking and I dont blame them. It's your own fault.

There are two ages (groups) to that team (as in Ard na  Ri) under 16 and Minor is what I was talking about with the amalgamation

[Milltown Row2]

Bad job a referee treats young cubs that badly he's sent home from the feile.

Sent a young fella off for nothing got him a 2 game ban ruled him out, called another cub an embarrassment to his club and family, awarded a free against because in his words "he woke up crabit"

Nobody gets sent off for nothing, what game was this?

[BigGreenField]

Why not- rather than talk about teams under age coming together to field and play- address the real issue?

West Belfast has far too many GAA clubs?

Remove at at least 6 clubs need combined and reduced to 3

I don't think there is, if anything there is not enough and in particular a chronic shortage of facilities putting a cap on playing numbers. Lot of house building going on and guts of 20,000 kids under age of 16.

West of Sarsfields  I think it's an underserved playing population where soccer is currently dominant. Colin Gaels are doing some good work but haven't made the leap to a senior team.

Different if you are talking about players competing at highest level and for that the Kerry divisional model beckons.

[Around the glens]

Bad job a referee treats young cubs that badly he's sent home from the feile.

Sent a young fella off for nothing got him a 2 game ban ruled him out, called another cub an embarrassment to his club and family, awarded a free against because in his words "he woke up crabit"

Nobody gets sent off for nothing, what game was this?

Dunloys first 2 feile games, had the same referee. There was no striking no tackle, asked for name and sent off. The same referee that said "no other refs would give that free but I woke up crabit"
Boys from the Loup said he's constantly at that carry on.

[Take the Mark]

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"no other refs would give that free but I woke up crabit"
 
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Ah come off it ffs

[Spike]

Why not- rather than talk about teams under age coming together to field and play- address the real issue?

West Belfast has far too many GAA clubs?

Remove at at least 6 clubs need combined and reduced to 3

I don't think there is, if anything there is not enough and in particular a chronic shortage of facilities putting a cap on playing numbers. Lot of house building going on and guts of 20,000 kids under age of 16.

West of Sarsfields  I think it's an underserved playing population where soccer is currently dominant. Colin Gaels are doing some good work but haven't made the leap to a senior team.

Different if you are talking about players competing at highest level and for that the Kerry divisional model beckons.

Agree.    its the game promotion that is lacking.

Over the years ive attended a lot of u6 to u14 Blitz / matches and the Belfast clubs are always coming with good numbers. Usually they have good representation and lots of coaches and helpers.  i am not at every single one so but i am at a good amount and thats what i see.  It definitely starts to thin out after 14 years old particularly at clubs not winning.

But the amount of games called off or cancelled or postponed indefinitely against Belfast opposition is sizeable.  This is a rarity in the SW where the vast majority of matches are played.  What can be done about this to make sure kids have guaranteed matches? 

[johnnycool]

Meanwhile across the Lagan, in the leafy suburbs known as Carryduff they had 7 teams at P4, all with 7 kids on each team and that was in hurling at the last Down primary school blitz.

I'd hate to see what they have at the football...

[Around the glens]

"no other refs would give that free but I woke up crabit"
 
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Ah come off it ffs
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There was enough there to hear it. Calling a young cub at u15 an embarrassment to his club and family. When he was told to grab his stuff and get into the car speaks volumes.

[Take the Mark]

Are we expected to guess who this allegedly was? Was it even an Antrim referee?

[Milltown Row2]

Are we expected to guess who this allegedly was? Was it even an Antrim referee?

No

[imtommygunn]

St brigids are a club that were badly needed in that area... you have clubs every drop of a hat in west Belfast and you had one south Belfast club.

[Milltown Row2]

In fairness only one club (in the SW) has dominated the senior football championship.

I believe the hurling can be better, but goes back to what I've suggested as in having hurling only clubs, possibly 3 or 4 ..

Rossa and St John's can be competitive at times but having a hurling only club would allow for years of single code training and prep for creating better competition..

It's about who's willing to bend! A simple solution would be for clubs to still have their juvenile set ups but come senior it's about committing to the hurling club..

I've absolutely no way of knowing how that will pan out, but if we keep doing the same things we'll keep getting the same results

The football will turn, it always does, always cycles