A5 WTC (New Road from Aughnacloy to Derry)

[Deerstalker]

I would say that this Alternative A5 were through the application with a microscope looking for any avenues to challenge. That's why, I'd be concerned that should they satisfy the Climate controls issues. Would another case be lodged on a different issue. It's a delaying tactic to prevent this happening as long as possible. There should be a limit to the number of appeals that a group can lodge.

Very easy way to avoid that. Do it properly next time.

Exactly this and exactly this with the Casement debacle.

You get the impression with the Shinners and the SDLP they're so desperate to go back to their electorate with a "look what we've done" win that the fúck up the process each and every time.

Lets not kid ourselves, the biggest and best brains in Nationalism aren't exactly queuing up to go into politics.

To be fair to Shinners they would have very very little input into the process that is used and the operational elements of this which would be handled by DFI.

Think it says a lot more about the CS that a political party, though you point about the biggest brains probably applies to the CS as it does to political life.

Every department has a Minister obviously, where was the oversight ? That's quite literally the point of a Minister. 

[johnnycool]

I would say that this Alternative A5 were through the application with a microscope looking for any avenues to challenge. That's why, I'd be concerned that should they satisfy the Climate controls issues. Would another case be lodged on a different issue. It's a delaying tactic to prevent this happening as long as possible. There should be a limit to the number of appeals that a group can lodge.

Very easy way to avoid that. Do it properly next time.

Exactly this and exactly this with the Casement debacle.

You get the impression with the Shinners and the SDLP they're so desperate to go back to their electorate with a "look what we've done" win that the fúck up the process each and every time.

Lets not kid ourselves, the biggest and best brains in Nationalism aren't exactly queuing up to go into politics.

To be fair to Shinners they would have very very little input into the process that is used and the operational elements of this which would be handled by DFI.

Think it says a lot more about the CS that a political party, though you point about the biggest brains probably applies to the CS as it does to political life.

Every department has a Minister obviously, where was the oversight ? That's quite literally the point of a Minister. 

You can't expect them to be over every jot and tittle.

 

[NAG1]

I would say that this Alternative A5 were through the application with a microscope looking for any avenues to challenge. That's why, I'd be concerned that should they satisfy the Climate controls issues. Would another case be lodged on a different issue. It's a delaying tactic to prevent this happening as long as possible. There should be a limit to the number of appeals that a group can lodge.

Very easy way to avoid that. Do it properly next time.

Exactly this and exactly this with the Casement debacle.

You get the impression with the Shinners and the SDLP they're so desperate to go back to their electorate with a "look what we've done" win that the fúck up the process each and every time.

Lets not kid ourselves, the biggest and best brains in Nationalism aren't exactly queuing up to go into politics.

To be fair to Shinners they would have very very little input into the process that is used and the operational elements of this which would be handled by DFI.

Think it says a lot more about the CS that a political party, though you point about the biggest brains probably applies to the CS as it does to political life.

Every department has a Minister obviously, where was the oversight ? That's quite literally the point of a Minister. 

Unless said Minister is Planning or Environmental Impact expert then they have literally zero chance of being across the detail of a project this size. The Minister is totally reliant on the CS departments below them to ensure this kind of thing doesn't happen.

[giveherlong]

I would say that this Alternative A5 were through the application with a microscope looking for any avenues to challenge. That's why, I'd be concerned that should they satisfy the Climate controls issues. Would another case be lodged on a different issue. It's a delaying tactic to prevent this happening as long as possible. There should be a limit to the number of appeals that a group can lodge.

Very easy way to avoid that. Do it properly next time.

Exactly this and exactly this with the Casement debacle.

You get the impression with the Shinners and the SDLP they're so desperate to go back to their electorate with a "look what we've done" win that the fúck up the process each and every time.

Lets not kid ourselves, the biggest and best brains in Nationalism aren't exactly queuing up to go into politics.

To be fair to Shinners they would have very very little input into the process that is used and the operational elements of this which would be handled by DFI.

Think it says a lot more about the CS that a political party, though you point about the biggest brains probably applies to the CS as it does to political life.

Every department has a Minister obviously, where was the oversight ? That's quite literally the point of a Minister. 

Unless said Minister is Planning or Environmental Impact expert then they have literally zero chance of being across the detail of a project this size. The Minister is totally reliant on the CS departments below them to ensure this kind of thing doesn't happen.

DFI staff are supposed to be managing/overseeing the consultants who have been well paid to take care of securing the required statutory approvals for this project. Anyone know who the consultants on this project are?

[giveherlong]

One of the landowners Perspective:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JcEPK152r/?mibextid=UalRPS

[johnnycool]

One of the landowners Perspective:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JcEPK152r/?mibextid=UalRPS

I think his point is actually that the bureaucracy is the issue and it doesn't seem he's against the road being built, just the time and money it's taken to get this far.

[WT4E]

One of the landowners Perspective:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JcEPK152r/?mibextid=UalRPS

I think his point is actually that the bureaucracy is the issue and it doesn't seem he's against the road being built, just the time and money it's taken to get this far.

I agree he seems to be saying just get it done and let us get on with farming.

Whilst also pointing out the irony hes videoing himself whilst on the driving a tractor and tanker on the dangerous A5. If the scheme went ahead surely tractors would not be allowed on the road? and they would use the other existing road?

[Milltown Row2]

One of the landowners Perspective:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JcEPK152r/?mibextid=UalRPS

I think his point is actually that the bureaucracy is the issue and it doesn't seem he's against the road being built, just the time and money it's taken to get this far.

I agree he seems to be saying just get it done and let us get on with farming.

Whilst also pointing out the irony hes videoing himself whilst on the driving a tractor and tanker on the dangerous A5. If the scheme went ahead surely tractors would not be allowed on the road? and they would use the other existing road?

Tractors allowed on dual carriageways

[WT4E]

One of the landowners Perspective:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JcEPK152r/?mibextid=UalRPS

I think his point is actually that the bureaucracy is the issue and it doesn't seem he's against the road being built, just the time and money it's taken to get this far.

I agree he seems to be saying just get it done and let us get on with farming.

Whilst also pointing out the irony hes videoing himself whilst on the driving a tractor and tanker on the dangerous A5. If the scheme went ahead surely tractors would not be allowed on the road? and they would use the other existing road?

Tractors allowed on dual carriageways

Okay wasn't sure about that but then at least there would not be impatient drivers behind them which increases the likelihood of an accident and that is part of the problem - its the busiest 2 lane road in the north.

[Milltown Row2]

One of the landowners Perspective:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JcEPK152r/?mibextid=UalRPS

I think his point is actually that the bureaucracy is the issue and it doesn't seem he's against the road being built, just the time and money it's taken to get this far.

I agree he seems to be saying just get it done and let us get on with farming.

Whilst also pointing out the irony hes videoing himself whilst on the driving a tractor and tanker on the dangerous A5. If the scheme went ahead surely tractors would not be allowed on the road? and they would use the other existing road?

Tractors allowed on dual carriageways

Okay wasn't sure about that but then at least there would not be impatient drivers behind them which increases the likelihood of an accident and that is part of the problem - its the busiest 2 lane road in the north.

Have very rarely driven it, which is surprising given jobs in the past but when I have, I was always wary of it..

I've been saying for years to myself to slow down, speed is still the biggest thing, I believe that if we stuck to the limits we'd have less accidents.

Granted dips in the roads, poor lighting and exits and entrances in bad areas have a major impact on accidents.. There really should also be a law that means if a current road has excess of so many cars per year on it that it shall become a dual lane/carriageway road.

Roads that were built 40/50 years ago didn't have the foresight, which has left it with these death roads 

[tiempo]

One of the landowners Perspective:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JcEPK152r/?mibextid=UalRPS

I think his point is actually that the bureaucracy is the issue and it doesn't seem he's against the road being built, just the time and money it's taken to get this far.

I agree he seems to be saying just get it done and let us get on with farming.

Whilst also pointing out the irony hes videoing himself whilst on the driving a tractor and tanker on the dangerous A5. If the scheme went ahead surely tractors would not be allowed on the road? and they would use the other existing road?

Report the cnut

Britain will pay for this road 2 or 3 times before they build it, then wash their hands of the Unionists who would rather burn cash than spend it on a taig road - it'll be relatively new and shiny for the 32co socialist republic

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

I assumed when I read "landowner" that he is an objector. I don't know why.
Then I watched the video. He doesn't seem to be.

From the negative comments about him on here, others seem to have made the same assumption as me.

Is he an objector or just a farmer who is being fucked about by this mess?

[Stall the Bailer]

I assumed when I read "landowner" that he is an objector. I don't know why.
Then I watched the video. He doesn't seem to be.

From the negative comments about him on here, others seem to have made the same assumption as me.

Is he an objector or just a farmer who is being fucked about by this mess?

He did say in a previous video, he thought the road should be built, even though he is loosing land.

[David McKeown]

One of the landowners Perspective:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JcEPK152r/?mibextid=UalRPS

I think his point is actually that the bureaucracy is the issue and it doesn't seem he's against the road being built, just the time and money it's taken to get this far.

I agree he seems to be saying just get it done and let us get on with farming.

Whilst also pointing out the irony hes videoing himself whilst on the driving a tractor and tanker on the dangerous A5. If the scheme went ahead surely tractors would not be allowed on the road? and they would use the other existing road?

Report the cnut

Britain will pay for this road 2 or 3 times before they build it, then wash their hands of the Unionists who would rather burn cash than spend it on a taig road - it'll be relatively new and shiny for the 32co socialist republic

Report him for what?

[tiempo]

Report him for what?

Aw g'wan - making his wee video while driving on the kings highway