All Ireland Championship 2025.

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tiempo

Quote from: imtommygunn on June 24, 2025, 09:22:23 AMAll you have to do is look at the Kevin Cassidy and Declan Bogue thing. He does the everyone is out to get us thing and it is not new. There's nothing new in how he is conducting himself.

Bogue and Cassidy both hard done by, the continued anthesis towards Bogue really beggars belief

rodney trotter

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 23, 2025, 11:00:04 PM
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Quote from: RedHand88 on June 23, 2025, 10:22:04 PMUtterly embarrassing stuff.

It's very fair they've been shafted. And I'm no Donegal fan.

How? Because They have to play 6 days after a game instead of 7? I haven't heard anyone explain why this makes a difference. Anyone saying an extra day's rest can save it. Teams will be training all week from tonight.

Why give Kerry 2 days extra rest?

The optics are not good.

They've been on a long slog and extra days rest would mean a lot mentally more than anything.
Mentally it will make no difference, they wouldn't be chilled on the Saturday if they had an AI QF on Sunday. Physically it will probably make no difference either. If you haven't recovered after 6 days you are injured.

Why give Kerry 2 days extra rest?

The obvious thing to do was Armagh Kerry Dublin Tyrone double header on Saturday and both Donegal and Galway on the Sunday and it's fair for everyone.

I can totally understand Donegals grievances.

The rest of you can't see beyond county rivalries and the fact Mcguinness did a bit of giving out after the match in the Hyde.

Donegal do have a point, but they were probaly the first team back training last winter. Then went to Portugal in early December.
Paddy McBrearty as a Minor featured with Donegal seniors on the same day.

J70

Quote from: tyrone08 on June 24, 2025, 09:39:16 AM
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Quote from: SaffronSports on June 23, 2025, 11:13:24 PMLet's be honest, if they'd put it as Sunday, Jim would still be whinging. Hopefully Monaghan resolve his fixture congestion on Saturday.

Why would he be whinging about a Sunday fixture?

They're right about this, and they were right to complain about Hyde Park.

It's funny how the GAA had no problem with Offaly GAA hosting Meath v Kerry while their footballers were togging out in Newbridge, but there apparently wasn't a steward to be had for any of the Ulster grounds because those counties were playing. I guess most of the Offaly lads are hurling snobs.
Now you are climbing aboard the conspiracy wagon, ´they're out to get us´, why this? why that? without rational approach.
With Donegal GAA airing their grievances this could work to Monaghan's benefit with the Donegal players being provided with a host of ready made excuses for not performing up to standard on the day.


Maybe, but someone has to push back a bit on the anti-Jim hysteria on this board. FFS we're now at the point where numerous lads are believing that he is so driven and bereft of decency that he would deny Louth a 15 minute delay!

"It was human error in terms of navigation," Brennan said, content enough that it had no negative impact on his side's performance. They had requested a 15-minute delay but that was turned down. Louth arrived in MacCumhaill Park around 3.15pm, 45 minutes before throw-in.

https://archive.ph/yQSzO Another article this time from the Irish News quoting that the Louth request was turned down.

3 separate articles confirming request was turned down. Maybe Jimmy isnt as nice as you want the world to believe.

If the articles are wrong then given that Jimmy complains about every little detail you think he would be setting the record straight on this one.

And what about the article posted yesterday where Brennan was quoted saying the delay was there if needed (if I remember correctly, it was immediately following the words quoted above).

Is there something on the record saying the delay was requested but turned down by McGuinness and Donegal?

APM

Quote from: rodney trotter on June 24, 2025, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 23, 2025, 11:00:04 PM
Quote from: Mario on June 23, 2025, 10:51:32 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 23, 2025, 10:48:28 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 23, 2025, 10:33:03 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 23, 2025, 10:23:48 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 23, 2025, 10:22:04 PMUtterly embarrassing stuff.

It's very fair they've been shafted. And I'm no Donegal fan.

How? Because They have to play 6 days after a game instead of 7? I haven't heard anyone explain why this makes a difference. Anyone saying an extra day's rest can save it. Teams will be training all week from tonight.

Why give Kerry 2 days extra rest?

The optics are not good.

They've been on a long slog and extra days rest would mean a lot mentally more than anything.
Mentally it will make no difference, they wouldn't be chilled on the Saturday if they had an AI QF on Sunday. Physically it will probably make no difference either. If you haven't recovered after 6 days you are injured.

Why give Kerry 2 days extra rest?

The obvious thing to do was Armagh Kerry Dublin Tyrone double header on Saturday and both Donegal and Galway on the Sunday and it's fair for everyone.

I can totally understand Donegals grievances.

The rest of you can't see beyond county rivalries and the fact Mcguinness did a bit of giving out after the match in the Hyde.

Donegal do have a point, but they were probaly the first team back training last winter. Then went to Portugal in early December.
Paddy McBrearty as a Minor featured with Donegal seniors on the same day.

Of course they have a point and they probably had a point about the Mayo match in The Hyde! But this is perhaps the fifth intervention:
Don't want the Ulster Final in Croke Park: or the Mayo match for that matter; cross about the Hyde being used  for Mayo match: too many matches causing injuries; and now this!

I accept that the first few were possibly in response to questions from the media but while this might get a bit of a siege mentality going he's actually doing every other county a favour by taking the spotlight off them. Will he be annoying his own players also with this stuff?

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: J70 on June 24, 2025, 09:50:47 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 24, 2025, 09:39:16 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 24, 2025, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2025, 07:37:07 AM
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Quote from: SaffronSports on June 23, 2025, 11:13:24 PMLet's be honest, if they'd put it as Sunday, Jim would still be whinging. Hopefully Monaghan resolve his fixture congestion on Saturday.

Colm Parkinson tweeted that Louth never requsted a 15 minute delay.

And he likes a dig at Donegal.

Why would he be whinging about a Sunday fixture?

They're right about this, and they were right to complain about Hyde Park.

It's funny how the GAA had no problem with Offaly GAA hosting Meath v Kerry while their footballers were togging out in Newbridge, but there apparently wasn't a steward to be had for any of the Ulster grounds because those counties were playing. I guess most of the Offaly lads are hurling snobs.
Now you are climbing aboard the conspiracy wagon, ´they're out to get us´, why this? why that? without rational approach.
With Donegal GAA airing their grievances this could work to Monaghan's benefit with the Donegal players being provided with a host of ready made excuses for not performing up to standard on the day.


Maybe, but someone has to push back a bit on the anti-Jim hysteria on this board. FFS we're now at the point where numerous lads are believing that he is so driven and bereft of decency that he would deny Louth a 15 minute delay!

"It was human error in terms of navigation," Brennan said, content enough that it had no negative impact on his side's performance. They had requested a 15-minute delay but that was turned down. Louth arrived in MacCumhaill Park around 3.15pm, 45 minutes before throw-in.

https://archive.ph/yQSzO Another article this time from the Irish News quoting that the Louth request was turned down.

3 separate articles confirming request was turned down. Maybe Jimmy isnt as nice as you want the world to believe.

If the articles are wrong then given that Jimmy complains about every little detail you think he would be setting the record straight on this one.

And what about the article posted yesterday where Brennan was quoted saying the delay was there if needed (if I remember correctly, it was immediately following the words quoted above).

Is there something on the record saying the delay was requested but turned down by McGuinness and Donegal?

tyrone08

Quote from: J70 on June 24, 2025, 09:50:47 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 24, 2025, 09:39:16 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 24, 2025, 09:18:56 AM
Quote from: Main Street on June 24, 2025, 07:37:07 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 24, 2025, 01:06:08 AM
Quote from: SaffronSports on June 23, 2025, 11:13:24 PMLet's be honest, if they'd put it as Sunday, Jim would still be whinging. Hopefully Monaghan resolve his fixture congestion on Saturday.

Why would he be whinging about a Sunday fixture?

They're right about this, and they were right to complain about Hyde Park.

It's funny how the GAA had no problem with Offaly GAA hosting Meath v Kerry while their footballers were togging out in Newbridge, but there apparently wasn't a steward to be had for any of the Ulster grounds because those counties were playing. I guess most of the Offaly lads are hurling snobs.
Now you are climbing aboard the conspiracy wagon, ´they're out to get us´, why this? why that? without rational approach.
With Donegal GAA airing their grievances this could work to Monaghan's benefit with the Donegal players being provided with a host of ready made excuses for not performing up to standard on the day.


Maybe, but someone has to push back a bit on the anti-Jim hysteria on this board. FFS we're now at the point where numerous lads are believing that he is so driven and bereft of decency that he would deny Louth a 15 minute delay!

"It was human error in terms of navigation," Brennan said, content enough that it had no negative impact on his side's performance. They had requested a 15-minute delay but that was turned down. Louth arrived in MacCumhaill Park around 3.15pm, 45 minutes before throw-in.

https://archive.ph/yQSzO Another article this time from the Irish News quoting that the Louth request was turned down.

3 separate articles confirming request was turned down. Maybe Jimmy isnt as nice as you want the world to believe.

If the articles are wrong then given that Jimmy complains about every little detail you think he would be setting the record straight on this one.

And what about the article posted yesterday where Brennan was quoted saying the delay was there if needed (if I remember correctly, it was immediately following the words quoted above).

Is there something on the record saying the delay was requested but turned down by McGuinness and Donegal?

That same article also said the request was turned down which contradicted brennan statement.

2 articles confirming request was turned down. There was 1 article which both said request was rejected but also said it was available if needed.

J70

Yet Brennan's is the only actual on-the-record statement and it contradicts that (a) the request was turned down and (b) it was turned down by or because of McGuinness and Donegal.

Armagh18

Tickets out at 1 today, wonder will they release all or try to sell the shite ones first

SaffronSports

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 24, 2025, 10:16:02 AMTickets out at 1 today, wonder will they release all or try to sell the shite ones first

Prices released anywhere yet?

Armagh18

Quote from: SaffronSports on June 24, 2025, 10:22:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 24, 2025, 10:16:02 AMTickets out at 1 today, wonder will they release all or try to sell the shite ones first

Prices released anywhere yet?
Not seen anything, season tickets were out this morning.

tonto1888


galwayman

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 24, 2025, 10:16:02 AMTickets out at 1 today, wonder will they release all or try to sell the shite ones first
I find that often the first batch that come on stream are the crappier seats & better ones become available as the week goes on.
Pretty annoying.
May be hard to get a decent Lower Hogan seat for Sunday I'd say.

Captain Scarlet

I'm getting ahead of myself here but for the semi-finals I'd imagine the Dubs will get a Sunday? Are there pairings that can't happen for the semis?

them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Armagh18

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on June 24, 2025, 11:21:35 AMI'm getting ahead of myself here but for the semi-finals I'd imagine the Dubs will get a Sunday? Are there pairings that can't happen for the semis?


All previous meetings to be avoided for semis where possible, but if Armagh, Galway and Donegal all win we'll have already played all 3 semi finalists. 

J70

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on June 24, 2025, 11:21:35 AMI'm getting ahead of myself here but for the semi-finals I'd imagine the Dubs will get a Sunday? Are there pairings that can't happen for the semis?



I think you are getting way ahead of yourself!

I think they try to avoid repeat pairings, if possible.

Last year there was no draw as Armagh had already played Galway and Donegal, who hadn't met each other, so Armagh automatically got Kerry.