All Ireland Championship 2025.

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statto

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 18, 2025, 11:50:28 PM
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Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2025, 03:28:53 PMShould Galway prevail over Down and the other 3 fancied counties go through, i think the players left standing for Galway would likely be meeting Monaghan in the quarters.
Down are evidently progressing. In the latter part of the 2nd half v Monaghan they were responding in kind, on the attack just 2 points behind and they get pulled up by the ref for a costly 2 point infringement. Nothing went right for Down in the last 1/4 except the gifted free awarded for O'Toole's non-foul, whereas everything else went right for Monaghan. IMO it could easily have been a one point game which could have gone either way.



Why do you think the theoretical quarter final would be Galway versus Monaghan?
A theoretical set of qf pairings

Armagh (can only) v Kerry

that leaves 3 pairs

Meath v Donegal (who have already played Monaghan and Tyrone)
Galway have already played Dublin
therefore Monaghan v Galway
and Dublin v Tyrone

Are there any other possibilities should the fancied 4 go through?
Possibly the Monaghan Donegal previous game doesn't count

GRMA

Monaghan V Donegal game doesn't count so they could meet in the quarter finals
The pairing  possibilities were already sorted in a post last night
Though I fancy Down have the wherewithal to pull off an upset against Galway.


So much to like about that Down team. It's a pity they got relegated they've real potential to stay at the top table.
There is alot to like about them young Burns has been a big upgrade in goals and Havern and Murdock are quality.  Magill seems to have really kicked on this year also. Panel depth would be a concern for them. 

lfdown2

Quote from: statto on June 19, 2025, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 18, 2025, 11:50:28 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 18, 2025, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 18, 2025, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 18, 2025, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2025, 04:31:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 17, 2025, 04:13:44 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2025, 03:28:53 PMShould Galway prevail over Down and the other 3 fancied counties go through, i think the players left standing for Galway would likely be meeting Monaghan in the quarters.
Down are evidently progressing. In the latter part of the 2nd half v Monaghan they were responding in kind, on the attack just 2 points behind and they get pulled up by the ref for a costly 2 point infringement. Nothing went right for Down in the last 1/4 except the gifted free awarded for O'Toole's non-foul, whereas everything else went right for Monaghan. IMO it could easily have been a one point game which could have gone either way.



Why do you think the theoretical quarter final would be Galway versus Monaghan?
A theoretical set of qf pairings

Armagh (can only) v Kerry

that leaves 3 pairs

Meath v Donegal (who have already played Monaghan and Tyrone)
Galway have already played Dublin
therefore Monaghan v Galway
and Dublin v Tyrone

Are there any other possibilities should the fancied 4 go through?
Possibly the Monaghan Donegal previous game doesn't count

GRMA

Monaghan V Donegal game doesn't count so they could meet in the quarter finals
The pairing  possibilities were already sorted in a post last night
Though I fancy Down have the wherewithal to pull off an upset against Galway.


So much to like about that Down team. It's a pity they got relegated they've real potential to stay at the top table.
There is alot to like about them young Burns has been a big upgrade in goals and Havern and Murdock are quality.  Magill seems to have really kicked on this year also. Panel depth would be a concern for them. 


For me he is the big difference, being able to secure primary possession is huge under the new rules and Burns' kick outs give you that - also takes the pressure of Murdock round the middle that instead of raining every kick out down on top of him you can look to him as an out ball where the 'short' (direct) kick isn't on.

statto

Quote from: lfdown2 on June 19, 2025, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: statto on June 19, 2025, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 18, 2025, 11:50:28 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 18, 2025, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 18, 2025, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 18, 2025, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2025, 04:31:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 17, 2025, 04:13:44 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2025, 03:28:53 PMShould Galway prevail over Down and the other 3 fancied counties go through, i think the players left standing for Galway would likely be meeting Monaghan in the quarters.
Down are evidently progressing. In the latter part of the 2nd half v Monaghan they were responding in kind, on the attack just 2 points behind and they get pulled up by the ref for a costly 2 point infringement. Nothing went right for Down in the last 1/4 except the gifted free awarded for O'Toole's non-foul, whereas everything else went right for Monaghan. IMO it could easily have been a one point game which could have gone either way.



Why do you think the theoretical quarter final would be Galway versus Monaghan?
A theoretical set of qf pairings

Armagh (can only) v Kerry

that leaves 3 pairs

Meath v Donegal (who have already played Monaghan and Tyrone)
Galway have already played Dublin
therefore Monaghan v Galway
and Dublin v Tyrone

Are there any other possibilities should the fancied 4 go through?
Possibly the Monaghan Donegal previous game doesn't count

GRMA

Monaghan V Donegal game doesn't count so they could meet in the quarter finals
The pairing  possibilities were already sorted in a post last night
Though I fancy Down have the wherewithal to pull off an upset against Galway.


So much to like about that Down team. It's a pity they got relegated they've real potential to stay at the top table.
There is alot to like about them young Burns has been a big upgrade in goals and Havern and Murdock are quality.  Magill seems to have really kicked on this year also. Panel depth would be a concern for them. 


For me he is the big difference, being able to secure primary possession is huge under the new rules and Burns' kick outs give you that - also takes the pressure of Murdock round the middle that instead of raining every kick out down on top of him you can look to him as an out ball where the 'short' (direct) kick isn't on.
Did Liam Kerr opt out for year or is he travelling, would have thought the new game would have suited him down to ground?

Armagh18

Quote from: statto on June 19, 2025, 10:01:00 AM
Quote from: lfdown2 on June 19, 2025, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: statto on June 19, 2025, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 18, 2025, 11:50:28 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 18, 2025, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 18, 2025, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 18, 2025, 09:20:29 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2025, 04:31:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 17, 2025, 04:13:44 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2025, 03:28:53 PMShould Galway prevail over Down and the other 3 fancied counties go through, i think the players left standing for Galway would likely be meeting Monaghan in the quarters.
Down are evidently progressing. In the latter part of the 2nd half v Monaghan they were responding in kind, on the attack just 2 points behind and they get pulled up by the ref for a costly 2 point infringement. Nothing went right for Down in the last 1/4 except the gifted free awarded for O'Toole's non-foul, whereas everything else went right for Monaghan. IMO it could easily have been a one point game which could have gone either way.



Why do you think the theoretical quarter final would be Galway versus Monaghan?
A theoretical set of qf pairings

Armagh (can only) v Kerry

that leaves 3 pairs

Meath v Donegal (who have already played Monaghan and Tyrone)
Galway have already played Dublin
therefore Monaghan v Galway
and Dublin v Tyrone

Are there any other possibilities should the fancied 4 go through?
Possibly the Monaghan Donegal previous game doesn't count

GRMA

Monaghan V Donegal game doesn't count so they could meet in the quarter finals
The pairing  possibilities were already sorted in a post last night
Though I fancy Down have the wherewithal to pull off an upset against Galway.


So much to like about that Down team. It's a pity they got relegated they've real potential to stay at the top table.
There is alot to like about them young Burns has been a big upgrade in goals and Havern and Murdock are quality.  Magill seems to have really kicked on this year also. Panel depth would be a concern for them. 


For me he is the big difference, being able to secure primary possession is huge under the new rules and Burns' kick outs give you that - also takes the pressure of Murdock round the middle that instead of raining every kick out down on top of him you can look to him as an out ball where the 'short' (direct) kick isn't on.
Did Liam Kerr opt out for year or is he travelling, would have thought the new game would have suited him down to ground?
Yeah I think he's in America, serious player as well

nrico2006

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2025, 09:34:31 PM
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Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2025, 08:11:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 18, 2025, 05:42:24 PM2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.

Disagree. The rest will give both a better chance of winning their All Ireland quarter than if they had three matches in consecutive weekends and then playing a rested opponent.
Neither Meath nor Monaghan are weapons grade. They won't get anywhere near Sam.
I think they'll be very hard stopped. How many teams have ever beaten Dublin and Kerry in the one year? Us in 02 and Tyrone in one of their years? Not too many more I'd say. Neither of those will fear anyone coming through that prelim draw. 

Tyrone in 2005 and 2008.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Dunneroyal

Quote from: seafoid on June 18, 2025, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 18, 2025, 07:41:37 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2025, 02:08:57 AMPeople need to stop bringing Div 1 teams and Div 2 teams to make a point.  The last two All Ireland champions was won by teams that played their spring football in Div 2 and Derry reached back to back All Ireland semi finals having played in Div 2 both years. It's a last 16 now down to the last 12. There isn't much of gap if any at all between those battling relegation in Division 1 and those pushing for promotion to Div 1. 

Would be nice to see a shock or two this weekend but the 4 favourites Donegal,Galway,Dublin,Kerry should win,  what shape they'll be in for the following week against a rested Monaghan,Meath,Tyrone,Armagh remains to be seen.

;D
2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.
. In fairness I can't see any of the 8 that can qualify from the prelims bothering Meath if we play like we did v Kerry. Particularly with a couple of lads back
Hon the royal

Armagh18

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 19, 2025, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 18, 2025, 05:42:24 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 18, 2025, 07:41:37 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2025, 02:08:57 AMPeople need to stop bringing Div 1 teams and Div 2 teams to make a point.  The last two All Ireland champions was won by teams that played their spring football in Div 2 and Derry reached back to back All Ireland semi finals having played in Div 2 both years. It's a last 16 now down to the last 12. There isn't much of gap if any at all between those battling relegation in Division 1 and those pushing for promotion to Div 1. 

Would be nice to see a shock or two this weekend but the 4 favourites Donegal,Galway,Dublin,Kerry should win,  what shape they'll be in for the following week against a rested Monaghan,Meath,Tyrone,Armagh remains to be seen.

;D
2 weeks of rest aren't going to make much difference to Meath or Monaghan.
. In fairness I can't see any of the 8 that can qualify from the prelims bothering Meath if we play like we did v Kerry. Particularly with a couple of lads back
Come on now...

Blowitupref

Ger Brennan.

One of the big problems for Louth after Monday's Preliminary quarter final draw was made, was trying to source accommodation on the eve of the game. That's because the Donegal International Rally is taking place this weekend, and as a result, practically all hotels and guest houses in the County are booked out.

It has left Louth having to relocate to Fermanagh.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

OakLeaf

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 19, 2025, 01:27:37 PMIn fairness I can't see any of the 8 that can qualify from the prelims bothering Meath if we play like we did v Kerry. Particularly with a couple of lads back

You might be getting a bit ahead of yourself there! This is the business end of the all ireland and Meath have a lot to prove yet.

Wildweasel74

Meath couldn't even beat Louth and we leave it at that!

GalwayBayBoy


Blowitupref

Brian Ó Beaglaoich, Diarmuid O'Connor and Seánie O'Shea have all been named to start for Kerry against Cavan.

Paudie Clifford named on the bench it seems players recover faster from injuries when it's a knock out game.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

From the Bunker

Quote from: Blowitupref on June 19, 2025, 10:09:13 PMBrian Ó Beaglaoich, Diarmuid O'Connor and Seánie O'Shea have all been named to start for Kerry against Cavan.

Paudie Clifford named on the bench it seems players recover faster from injuries when it's a knock out game.

Sometimes you have to pick times to rest injuries. Players at this stage of the season don't recover from injuries rather they put up with injuries.

JoG2

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 19, 2025, 10:03:15 PM

Comer on the bench week after week. Just constant hamstring injuries and not at the fitness levels to start?

AustinPowers

I wouldn't pay  much heed to that starting 15 for Kerry. 

They might fool Cavan  and  change  the lineout 5 minutes before throw in , or they could start all those  players with injury doubts.

Either way, they will have shown  their hand to Armagh