Ulster U20 and Minor Championships 2025

Started by Captain Obvious, March 22, 2023, 05:58:04 PM

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galwayman

There was big hopes for that Derry team.

skeog


ONeill

That was a weird game. Derry looked the better side in the first half, but sort of stopped playing when 9-5 up. Gaping holes in the centre of their defence second half. And they didn't seem all that bothered. Was weird. 

Then, at the end when 7 points down and time running out, they decide to play again.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Topmarks

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 23, 2025, 08:56:47 PMStill cant work out how 4 of last yrs starting forwards are not on that team.
Did you ever hear what happened? I know a few of the lads weren't named on the initial panel. Was there a fall out?

reddgnhand

Quote from: ONeill on April 23, 2025, 10:23:32 PMThat was a weird game. Derry looked the better side in the first half, but sort of stopped playing when 9-5 up. Gaping holes in the centre of their defence second half. And they didn't seem all that bothered. Was weird. 

Then, at the end when 7 points down and time running out, they decide to play again.

Tyrone learned the lesson against Donegal. Tonight like last week against Armagh conceded a lot of ball around the middle to protect their goal. When possession was won the ball went at speed to the forwards.

Newbridge Exile

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 23, 2025, 08:56:47 PMStill cant work out how 4 of last yrs starting forwards are not on that team.
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Well one of the four is overage (O'Donnell) and another is carrying an injury I believe (McCann) Spiers made the decision to leave the panel after the first game

Wildweasel74

Should say 4 of the panel forwards,
C Chambers and E Murphy didn't start but had started earlier games. E Higgins did, 

Newbridge Exile

Chambers did Start the final last year, Eoin Higgins came on a sub,Eoin was on the panel this year but I believe left due to injury

onefineday

Quote from: Topmarks on April 23, 2025, 10:27:48 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 23, 2025, 08:56:47 PMStill cant work out how 4 of last yrs starting forwards are not on that team.
Did you ever hear what happened? I know a few of the lads weren't named on the initial panel. Was there a fall out?
Fwiw I heard that the plan was to concentrate on developing the two all Ireland winning minor teams, maybe 3 in a row at u20 was the goal.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: galwayman on April 23, 2025, 09:17:42 PMThere was big hopes for that Derry team.

Hopes high because of Derry winning U17 All Irelands the last two years and Hogan cup for St. Pat's, Maghera however it was probably a year too soon for that Derry U20 team this year.  Tyrone won the U17 Ulster in 2022 and they have 10 starters from last years U20 All Ireland winning team.   

Wildweasel74

That Derry team reached minor semi. And in theory should had alot of starters from last year.

BennyHarp

Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 24, 2025, 01:13:22 AM
Quote from: galwayman on April 23, 2025, 09:17:42 PMThere was big hopes for that Derry team.

Hopes high because of Derry winning U17 All Irelands the last two years and Hogan cup for St. Pat's, Maghera however it was probably a year too soon for that Derry U20 team this year.  Tyrone won the U17 Ulster in 2022 and they have 10 starters from last years U20 All Ireland winning team.   

Tyrone are also selecting from Omagh's Hogan cup winning squad and the age group when 3 of the 4 McRory Cup semi finalists where Tyrone schools.
That was never a square ball!!

Derry Dreamer

After last night's disappointing performance by Derry U20's both on the field and on the side line as some posters have alluded to, I nevertheless feel that there is a quota from that team who can be promoted immediately to the Senior county panel. I am thinking of Ruairi Forbes, Danny McDermott, Conor McGrogan and a fully fit Ryan McNicholl. Anyone who was at the the U20 games this year agree with the above or other additional choices?

Also when speaking about last night's game one must remember that 9 of last night's starters plus Fionn McEldowney and James Sargent are all underage next year. If all stakeholders can learn from last night's mistakes, there surely is a good chance of All-Ireland U20 honours next year.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: BennyHarp on April 24, 2025, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 24, 2025, 01:13:22 AM
Quote from: galwayman on April 23, 2025, 09:17:42 PMThere was big hopes for that Derry team.

Hopes high because of Derry winning U17 All Irelands the last two years and Hogan cup for St. Pat's, Maghera however it was probably a year too soon for that Derry U20 team this year.  Tyrone won the U17 Ulster in 2022 and they have 10 starters from last years U20 All Ireland winning team.   

Tyrone are also selecting from Omagh's Hogan cup winning squad and the age group when 3 of the 4 McRory Cup semi finalists where Tyrone schools.

Yes a very strong Omagh school team.

Topmarks

Quote from: Derry Dreamer on April 24, 2025, 02:35:03 PMAfter last night's disappointing performance by Derry U20's both on the field and on the side line as some posters have alluded to, I nevertheless feel that there is a quota from that team who can be promoted immediately to the Senior county panel. I am thinking of Ruairi Forbes, Danny McDermott, Conor McGrogan and a fully fit Ryan McNicholl. Anyone who was at the the U20 games this year agree with the above or other additional choices?

Also when speaking about last night's game one must remember that 9 of last night's starters plus Fionn McEldowney and James Sargent are all underage next year. If all stakeholders can learn from last night's mistakes, there surely is a good chance of All-Ireland U20 honours next year.

I agree, I would go as far and say that D McDermott and R Forbes should start for the seniors this year. I would also look at P McMullan and C McGuckian. Eamon young is a class act but still at school so would give it a year before bringing him in.