Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: paddyjohn on April 01, 2025, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 01, 2025, 09:57:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 31, 2025, 10:02:44 PMDoes anyone know if Ciaran Clarke ever made it back from his injury?

Not yet ITG, has had a bit of a set back recently from what I've heard. Not sure if ever will get back to the levels he was capable of.

He was one of the best hurlers I've ever saw.

Quality.. Ballycastle have lost a few brilliant hurlers over the years to injuries
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

NAG1

Quote from: paddyjohn on April 01, 2025, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 01, 2025, 09:57:50 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 31, 2025, 10:02:44 PMDoes anyone know if Ciaran Clarke ever made it back from his injury?

Not yet ITG, has had a bit of a set back recently from what I've heard. Not sure if ever will get back to the levels he was capable of.

He was one of the best hurlers I've ever saw.

Cracking talent for sure, hopefully he can get himself right and get back playing regularly.

Upandover

Going back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

marty34

Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was that a challenge game or Go Games?

Upandover

Quote from: marty34 on April 01, 2025, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was that a challenge game or Go Games?

Go games

NAG1

Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 01, 2025, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was that a challenge game or Go Games?

Go games

I think the key is in the title there. Go Games - plural.

Should be more than one game and in most cases I've seen there are multiple games?

SaffronSports

Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was this just a match set up by 2 clubs or officially organised Go Games. In my experience, the NA Blitz Go Games stuff works really well. 100+ kids, split into a couple of different levels so kids are hopefully getting loads of time on the pitch against kids of similar standard. You could be playing 5/6 games and I think they're just 10 mins straight through. This sounds like 2 clubs have organised a match and then been too lazy to adjust a pitch to the size of the players they had.

Upandover

Quote from: NAG1 on April 01, 2025, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 01, 2025, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was that a challenge game or Go Games?

Go games

I think the key is in the title there. Go Games - plural.

Should be more than one game and in most cases I've seen there are multiple games?

Does go games not stimulate that everyone gets a "go"?

Anyway my point being that in a month all he and his team mates have played is 2 seven minute halves of hurling, not nearly enough, if we want to look at what is hindering uptake or preventing improvement surely it lies here.

Upandover

Quote from: SaffronSports on April 01, 2025, 04:15:45 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was this just a match set up by 2 clubs or officially organised Go Games. In my experience, the NA Blitz Go Games stuff works really well. 100+ kids, split into a couple of different levels so kids are hopefully getting loads of time on the pitch against kids of similar standard. You could be playing 5/6 games and I think they're just 10 mins straight through. This sounds like 2 clubs have organised a match and then been too lazy to adjust a pitch to the size of the players they had.

I think north antrim differs from south. Under 10 games will be once every 2 weeks, rotating on a weekly basis with football.

Usually go to a venue and play one team, ive seen emails this year stipulating that u10 games cannot be more than 7aside.

marty34

Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 01, 2025, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 01, 2025, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was that a challenge game or Go Games?

Go games

I think the key is in the title there. Go Games - plural.

Should be more than one game and in most cases I've seen there are multiple games?

Does go games not stimulate that everyone gets a "go"?

Anyway my point being that in a month all he and his team mates have played is 2 seven minute halves of hurling, not nearly enough, if we want to look at what is hindering uptake or preventing improvement surely it lies here.

If I knew that it'd be only 15 mins of hurling, I wouldn't be travelling anywhere.

SaffronSports

Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 01, 2025, 04:15:45 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was this just a match set up by 2 clubs or officially organised Go Games. In my experience, the NA Blitz Go Games stuff works really well. 100+ kids, split into a couple of different levels so kids are hopefully getting loads of time on the pitch against kids of similar standard. You could be playing 5/6 games and I think they're just 10 mins straight through. This sounds like 2 clubs have organised a match and then been too lazy to adjust a pitch to the size of the players they had.

I think north antrim differs from south. Under 10 games will be once every 2 weeks, rotating on a weekly basis with football.

Usually go to a venue and play one team, ive seen emails this year stipulating that u10 games cannot be more than 7aside.

Straight away, there's a clear issue. North Antrim much stronger in hurling and I believe the calendar would be like this for example.

Week 1 - Dunloy U8
Week 2 - Dunloy U10
Week 3 - Cushendall U8
Week 4 - Cushendall U10
Week 5 - Glenarm U8
Week 6 - Glenarm U10.

That runs right through the summer with most clubs hosting a blitz two weeks in a row to accommodate the two age groups. Every one of those blitzes will have 100+ kids with some teams having maybe 2 or 3 teams out in it.

Appreciate in Belfast you've got more football than North Antrim so has to be worked a bit differently but turning up to play one team for 15 mins even once a fortnight isn't good enough. At least have the lads getting 5/6 games against different teams so you might have 40/50/60 mins depending on your clubs numbers.

Upandover

Agree with all being said, as i said its a shambles!

Upandover

Quote from: marty34 on April 01, 2025, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 01, 2025, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 01, 2025, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was that a challenge game or Go Games?

Go games

I think the key is in the title there. Go Games - plural.

Should be more than one game and in most cases I've seen there are multiple games?

Does go games not stimulate that everyone gets a "go"?

Anyway my point being that in a month all he and his team mates have played is 2 seven minute halves of hurling, not nearly enough, if we want to look at what is hindering uptake or preventing improvement surely it lies here.

If I knew that it'd be only 15 mins of hurling, I wouldn't be travelling anywhere.

What do you do in this situation then though?
All my young lad wants to do is hurl, if i said we arent going he would be extremely upset.

Upandover

Quote from: SaffronSports on April 01, 2025, 04:27:39 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on April 01, 2025, 04:15:45 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was this just a match set up by 2 clubs or officially organised Go Games. In my experience, the NA Blitz Go Games stuff works really well. 100+ kids, split into a couple of different levels so kids are hopefully getting loads of time on the pitch against kids of similar standard. You could be playing 5/6 games and I think they're just 10 mins straight through. This sounds like 2 clubs have organised a match and then been too lazy to adjust a pitch to the size of the players they had.

I think north antrim differs from south. Under 10 games will be once every 2 weeks, rotating on a weekly basis with football.

Usually go to a venue and play one team, ive seen emails this year stipulating that u10 games cannot be more than 7aside.

Straight away, there's a clear issue. North Antrim much stronger in hurling and I believe the calendar would be like this for example.

Week 1 - Dunloy U8
Week 2 - Dunloy U10
Week 3 - Cushendall U8
Week 4 - Cushendall U10
Week 5 - Glenarm U8
Week 6 - Glenarm U10.

That runs right through the summer with most clubs hosting a blitz two weeks in a row to accommodate the two age groups. Every one of those blitzes will have 100+ kids with some teams having maybe 2 or 3 teams out in it.

Appreciate in Belfast you've got more football than North Antrim so has to be worked a bit differently but turning up to play one team for 15 mins even once a fortnight isn't good enough. At least have the lads getting 5/6 games against different teams so you might have 40/50/60 mins depending on your clubs numbers.

Another issue, our club would never facilitate these numbers as we only have one grass pitch, 3g muga is too small for more than 2 small games.

Only ones allowed on our pitch for training or games is seniors.

marty34

Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:38:01 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 01, 2025, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 01, 2025, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 01, 2025, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: Upandover on April 01, 2025, 03:29:27 PMGoing back to what we need to improve on with regards to juvenile setup.

Weekend my lad had an u10 game, got to the pitch that that was lined out for the previous game which was 10 aside. Looking at our numbers and opposing numbers this game was only 5 aside, pitch size wasnt then altered, they played 2 7 minute halves and that was that, first game in 4 weeks as the previous fixture didnt go ahead as opposing team couldnt field.
A total shambles!!!!

Was that a challenge game or Go Games?

Go games

I think the key is in the title there. Go Games - plural.

Should be more than one game and in most cases I've seen there are multiple games?

Does go games not stimulate that everyone gets a "go"?

Anyway my point being that in a month all he and his team mates have played is 2 seven minute halves of hurling, not nearly enough, if we want to look at what is hindering uptake or preventing improvement surely it lies here.

If I knew that it'd be only 15 mins of hurling, I wouldn't be travelling anywhere.

What do you do in this situation then though?
All my young lad wants to do is hurl, if i said we arent going he would be extremely upset.

I presume you're in the age whatsapp group?

Put in a message asking how long the games will be and who is your team playing etc.

If they say 7mins and your travelling 10 mins or 30 mins to get there, put the thumbs down and say it'd be better training at your own pitch for 1 hour.