Benefit Cuts

[David McKeown]

I think not enough is support is given to help kids with ASD or neurodivergence and the businesses that could take them on.

There are a number of jobs that they could thrive in that require good attention to detail/strong organisational skills and given the proper support they could slot into the workforce and have value in their lives again.

Maybe a taskforce or special initiative to really focus on it could help but there are definitely jobs out there that could suit them.

I think anything like that needs to be run in conjunction with health services. There is no province wide strategy to deal with child autism or adhd. Each trust applies its own policies and the lack of funding is catastrophic. 5 year waitlists in Belfast that kids can't get on until they are 7. No triaging so kids in real need are behind those whose parents are chancing the arm to get more benefits. It's a real issue

[Milltown Row2]

Big multinational companies make billions every year on profits and the governments could do more to dip into those to help the exchequer

That said the amount of people pulling moves is fecked up.

Money is being wasted that's evident, I don't think the NHS is fixable, ever, unless people pay more taxes!

[Tony Baloney]

Big multinational companies make billions every year on profits and the governments could do more to dip into those to help the exchequer

That said the amount of people pulling moves is fecked up.

Money is being wasted that's evident, I don't think the NHS is fixable, ever, unless people pay more taxes!

More money can't be the only answer. You pay your taxes and keep yourself in good nick but go into any hospital and you'd find a large proportion of people in A&E and on the wards are there directly or indirectly from lifestyle illnesses from smoking, boozing or overeating and a sizeable proportion of those people wont have worked a day in their life. Get people off the DLA, out working, exercising and living a healthy lifestyle and you fix the NHS. Simple! 

[Milltown Row2]

No I want my taxes to give me a better health service (should I need it) it should reflect what you've put in, the incentive can be to contribute more and you'll be given a 'fast pass' to seeing your GP or further up the list  

[Tony Baloney]

No I want my taxes to give me a better health service (should I need it) it should reflect what you've put in, the incentive can be to contribute more and you'll be given a 'fast pass' to seeing your GP or further up the list  

Won't work. Pouring water into a leaking bucket. It needs a full overhaul for spend to be efficient. No government will ever achieve it. You may as well just put your money into private medical insurance and bypass the NHS (or see the NHS consultants on their downtime!)

[thewobbler]

The NHS is a truly extraordinary conundrum to resolve.

And like most of the public sector, it hasn't got a bat shit in hell chance of improving whilst the cost of living (housing, mainly) makes a vocational career such an impractical choice.

[armaghniac]

I think not enough is support is given to help kids with ASD or neurodivergence and the businesses that could take them on.

There are a number of jobs that they could thrive in that require good attention to detail/strong organisational skills and given the proper support they could slot into the workforce and have value in their lives again.

Maybe a taskforce or special initiative to really focus on it could help but there are definitely jobs out there that could suit them.

Perhaps some of the funding could be redirected to providing that support in companies. The message should be that every citizen is expected to make a contribution and that contribution is welcome. Saying that is fine to opt out is not really a help to people.

[NAG1]

I think not enough is support is given to help kids with ASD or neurodivergence and the businesses that could take them on.

There are a number of jobs that they could thrive in that require good attention to detail/strong organisational skills and given the proper support they could slot into the workforce and have value in their lives again.

Maybe a taskforce or special initiative to really focus on it could help but there are definitely jobs out there that could suit them.

Perhaps some of the funding could be redirected to providing that support in companies. The message should be that every citizen is expected to make a contribution and that contribution is welcome. Saying that is fine to opt out is not really a help to people.

This only works if you fix the issues of waste, would you be prepared to contribute more taxes to a system that is being drained on a generational basis by benefits cheats.

I for one would be uncomfortable with that.

We know there are genuine cases that need help and support and it should always be there for them, but this entitlement attitude that you should be given a house a car and paid to lay about doing nothing your whole life, while others around you are working poor and really struggling needs to come to an abrupt end.

[LC]

The NHS is a truly extraordinary conundrum to resolve.

And like most of the public sector, it hasn't got a bat shit in hell chance of improving whilst the cost of living (housing, mainly) makes a vocational career such an impractical choice.

I agree, can not help but think in the future there will be a serious shortage / if not already worser than in relation to social workers, child pyschologists, special needs assistants and possibly even Doctors.  You can build all the facilities you need but without staff there is no point.

[markl121]

There's a whole load of issues going on that would need to be solved. There are no doubt plenty of people gaming the system. Theres also a lot of waste. I do work for NHS England and the GP practices literally rush to spend their excess cash round this time of year to make sure they get it next year. Tens of thousands just gone. Stuff like that needs handed back into the pot

[armaghniac]

I think not enough is support is given to help kids with ASD or neurodivergence and the businesses that could take them on.

There are a number of jobs that they could thrive in that require good attention to detail/strong organisational skills and given the proper support they could slot into the workforce and have value in their lives again.

Maybe a taskforce or special initiative to really focus on it could help but there are definitely jobs out there that could suit them.

Perhaps some of the funding could be redirected to providing that support in companies. The message should be that every citizen is expected to make a contribution and that contribution is welcome. Saying that is fine to opt out is not really a help to people.

This only works if you fix the issues of waste, would you be prepared to contribute more taxes to a system that is being drained on a generational basis by benefits cheats.

I for one would be uncomfortable with that.

We know there are genuine cases that need help and support and it should always be there for them, but this entitlement attitude that you should be given a house a car and paid to lay about doing nothing your whole life, while others around you are working poor and really struggling needs to come to an abrupt end.

What I said was that paid should not be paid for doing nothing, but that money might be spent on facilitating their working. Let's say that you provide grants to companies to widen their doors and install ramps so that physically disabled people can work there. The approach should always be what do you need so you can work, not here's some money so that you can opt out.

[Deerstalker]

Armghaniac most of the rapid rise in claims are for mental health conditions. Difficult to disprove you could say

[armaghniac]

Armghaniac most of the rapid rise in claims are for mental health conditions. Difficult to disprove you could say

Harder to prove, but still people should be expected to contribute. For instance, nowadays you can work from home in many jobs.

[Deerstalker]

Armghaniac most of the rapid rise in claims are for mental health conditions. Difficult to disprove you could say

Harder to prove, but still people should be expected to contribute. For instance, nowadays you can work from home in many jobs.

I agree with you 100%

[tbrick18]

To be honest I never been well since covid, still work but there's days am fit for nothing. I couldn't do a job where they be any serious sort of manual labour now. B4 hand i could.

I'm exactly the same. Joints and muscles really reducing mobility - but not to the point I can't work as I have a primarily desk based job. But I know a guy who took a reaction to the vaccine at the time, and he has been really unwell since. He still works as self employed, but he struggles a lot.