The Many Faces of US Politics...

[whitey]

Look-up is correct with the stability stuff.

Let's say the Dems get their shit together and win back the House and then the presidency next time out. What happened in the 2030s? Trump might be dead at that point, but will the deranged base that foisted him upon the planet be?

The Dem president might seek to mend the fences with Europe and Canada and the rest of the world, but what happens when the next Trump arrives four or eight years later? Maybe Trump's idiocy will change minds within the US over the next four years, but for now, most Americans either don't know or don't care about geopolitics when it comes to national politics. Trump is for them, Kamala is for for they/their. That's what matters.

Europe needs to free itself from being so reliant on American market and military ties.

MAGA is very vulnerable if inflation remains out of control.Trump is tearing the arse out of it and doing nothing for ordinary people. Regular GOP politicians could take over the party down the road. It is all chaotic and very uncertain.

Europe has pivoted towards defence in the last month given the feedback over Ukraine.

Lower Taxes, deregulation and jobs

That's what he's hoping for

This is a completely different Trump than 2016. He actually has surrounded himself with some pretty smart people

[J70]

One party rule is bad for the country

From my vantage point it is going to be extremely difficult for mainstream/centrist Democrats to break from the fringes of the party-just look at what happened to Seth Moulton. (As the dad of 2 young girls he had the audacity to say he didn't want to see them playing sport against biological males)

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/27/moulton-lgtbq-congress-democrats-00191867

One other issue the Democrats have is they have little appeal to young men. There's a guy I know-late 20s, Union Worker, Eversource employee. This guy is up at 4:00 AM, drives to Boston for a 6:00 AM start. Has a hard dirty and dangerous job working for the gas company.

Quote "why the fvck should I be taxed to pay off the student debt of people who choose to attend college and study stupid $hit, and now they can't pay their loans"

Midterms will be key

Hard to argue with that tbf.

Does this union guy want his kids to have the opportunity to go to college? Because they'll probably end up in the exact same boat of spending decades paying off interest on student loans while barely scratching the principle. Attending college in the US is like buying a bloody house at this point. As for the tired trope about useless degrees in fine art or the classics, most people who end up with these loans are just regular people who do not come from well-off families but who are nonetheless busting their arses to get a decent, useful degree to set themselves up. It's not their fault that salaries and wages have been left far behind by the ridiculous rate of increase in prices of degrees, housing, healthcare and the rest over the past four decades.

And we all contribute taxes for stuff that we don't personally agree with. How many college loans would Trump's jaunts to the Superbowl, NASCAR and the weekly trips up and down the east coast to his golf courses (where he is, based on his last term, gouging the taxpayer for the costs incurred by Secret Service etc.) pay off?

[Blowitupref]

This is a completely different Trump than 2016. He actually has surrounded himself with some pretty smart people

Then and now and in his own words he only hires the best people the problem is he fires them as soon as things turn south as he can't be the problem and it must be those smart people aren't as smart as he thought. 

[johnnycool]

One party rule is bad for the country

From my vantage point it is going to be extremely difficult for mainstream/centrist Democrats to break from the fringes of the party-just look at what happened to Seth Moulton. (As the dad of 2 young girls he had the audacity to say he didn't want to see them playing sport against biological males)

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/27/moulton-lgtbq-congress-democrats-00191867

One other issue the Democrats have is they have little appeal to young men. There's a guy I know-late 20s, Union Worker, Eversource employee. This guy is up at 4:00 AM, drives to Boston for a 6:00 AM start. Has a hard dirty and dangerous job working for the gas company.

Quote "why the fvck should I be taxed to pay off the student debt of people who choose to attend college and study stupid $hit, and now they can't pay their loans"

Midterms will be key

Hard to argue with that tbf.

Yet all the while he probably voted for a man who gives tax breaks to Billionaires.

That don't make any sense whatsoever.

Tariffs will drive up inflation and if BRICS gets up and running in a meaningful way the $ will lose it's prestige and lose value.

[johnnycool]

This is a completely different Trump than 2016. He actually has surrounded himself with some pretty smart people

Then and now and in his own words he only hires the best people the problem is he fires them as soon as things turn south as he can't be the problem and it must be those smart people aren't as smart as he thought.

Trump has to always be the smartest person in the room.

I'm not saying he's dumb, but he certainly isn't super smart.

All his picks are easily manipulated and easily disposed off as you say for some other goon to fill the void.

Rinse and Repeat.

[seafoid]

   
   https://www.ft.com/content/8c633f79-2cc3-4bb6-a4a8-6c73e460a5e3

   US to boost tariffs on China and push ahead with Canada and Mexico levies
Donald Trump says tariffs on America's biggest trading partners to go into effect on March 4

The president halted the proposed tariffs on Mexico and Canada earlier this month, just hours before they were due to begin
Steff Chávez in Washington


US President Donald Trump said he would impose an additional 10 per cent tariff on imports from China and press ahead with levies on Mexico and Canada from March 4.

"The proposed TARIFFS scheduled to go into effect on MARCH FOURTH will, indeed, go into effect, as scheduled," Trump wrote on Truth Social on Thursday.

The president halted the proposed tariffs on Mexico and Canada earlier this month, just hours before they were due to begin, giving the US's two biggest trading partners a month-long reprieve.

But in his post on Thursday, Trump claimed that "drugs are still pouring into our Country from Mexico and Canada at a very high and unacceptable levels".

Washington will also hit China with an additional 10 per cent levy on March 4, he said, adding that his reciprocal tariff plan would still go ahead as planned on April 2.

"China will likewise be charged an additional 10% Tariff on that date. The April Second Reciprocal Tariff date will remain in full force and effect," Trump wrote.

Trump's remarks are an apparent reversal from comments he made on Wednesday, when he said that the levies on Canada and Mexico would take effect on April 2, suggesting a possible delay.

[Captain Obvious]

Just because stuff is on the internet doesn't mean it's true

Going by your history of posting on this thread it's something you need to heed more often. 

All his picks are easily manipulated and easily disposed off as you say for some other goon to fill the void.

Rinse and Repeat.

He'll be afraid to fire Musk knowing full well the big role he played to get him back in office and by getting rid of him during the next four years can have Musk with the power of social media to even have Trump's most deluded followers turn against him.

[bennydorano]

He loves Musk, his idiocy deflects the shit away from Trump.

This is a completely different Trump than 2016. He actually has surrounded himself with some pretty smart people

Then and now and in his own words he only hires the best people the problem is he fires them as soon as things turn south as he can't be the problem and it must be those smart people aren't as smart as he thought.

His handlers have hand picked his government more like, how would a clown like Trump know who's who and what they've done in public life / service?

No one will ever convince me that he's not an idiot of the highest order.

[Look-Up!]

Look-up is correct with the stability stuff.

Let's say the Dems get their shit together and win back the House and then the presidency next time out. What happens in the 2030s? Trump might be dead at that point, but will the deranged base that foisted him upon the planet be?

The Dem president might seek to mend the fences with Europe and Canada and the rest of the world, but what happens when the next Trump arrives four or eight years later? Maybe Trump's idiocy will change minds within the US over the next four years, but for now, most Americans either don't know or don't care about geopolitics when it comes to national politics. Trump is for them, Kamala is for for they/their. That's what matters.

Europe needs to free itself from being so reliant on American market and military ties.

Exactly my point.

He might be a Philistine but I don't believe there's any point try to argue against Trump mentality either because he's half right in principle in a lot of what he says. That's the problem. Makes perfect sense to get manufacturing going again in America but blaming the rest of the world is nonsense and selling the BS that he can fix everything in one day! You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to believe that and little point trying to enlighten if you do. Changes like he's talking about take time, hard work and pain and co-operation with rest of world. It's a slow turning tanker, kinda like what Obama said when admitting his mistakes trying to push too much through for his legacy.

What's he's doing now is creating havoc and impossible for long term planning where US are involved. And it won't change if he drops dead tomorrow. Very ironic they're cheerleading him tax tariffing the shit out of everything, and this all started with the Tea Party movement. Wasn't it tariffs they were protesting about?

[Eamonnca1]

• Cost of student loan forgiveness: $850 billion to $1.4 trillion.
• Cost of unprovoked war with Iraq: $6 trillion
• Cost of corporate welfare: $100 billion / year
• Pentagon annual budget: $800 billion / year
• Cost of proposed tax cuts for the rich: $1.9 trillion over ten years

But the Republicans and their supporters on this forum would have you believe that college students are the enemy of the working man.

[J70]

Moves afoot allegedly to pull the contract for the FAA's ATC system from Verizon and give it to Musk's Starlink. Worth more than $2 billion.

But anyway, back to Hillary's emails, Hunter's laptop...

[armaghniac]

In his press conference with Starmer, the orange clown noted Doonbeg as one of his investments in the UK.

[RadioGAAGAA]

As for the tired trope about useless degrees in fine art or the classics, most people who end up with these loans are just regular people who do not come from well-off families but who are nonetheless busting their arses to get a decent, useful degree to set themselves up.

But whose fault is it if they decide to take up a place on a shit degree course that offers no change in future employability vs. not going to College?

Theirs?
Their university's?
Or just shit luck?

Writing off loans would definitely be more palatable if the problem of chronic oversupply of graduates in many degrees of marginal usefulness.

However, just writing off loans without tackling the underlying problem would fuk me off too and I'd definitely not be in favour of it.


[Two wrongs don't make a right, so no strawmen please!]

Look at this (OK, UK, but expect it broadly similar everywhere):

Subject area   Employed Full time
Veterinary sciences   79.00%
Architecture & building   71.00%
Education and teaching   70.00%
Medicine and dentistry   69.00%
Engineering and technology   69.00%
Business and management   66.00%
Geography (social sciences)   65.00%
Computing   64.00%
Subjects allied to medicine   63.00%
Geography (natural sciences)   63.00%
Media, journalism and communications   62.00%
Law   61.00%
Mathematics sciences   60.00%
Social sciences   60.00%
Agriculture and food   58.00%
Physical sciences   55.00%
Psychology   53.00%
Biological and sport sciences   51.00%
Languages and related studies   49.00%
History, philosophy and religion   48.00%
Design, creative & performing arts   46.00%

[Wildweasel74]

Kings letter invite to the UK, talk about begging.

[johnnycool]

Kings letter invite to the UK, talk about begging.

Prince Andrew to chaperone Trump.

They can reminisce about the good ole days on paedo island with buddy Epstein.