NFL Division 1 2025

Started by Blowitupref, January 15, 2025, 04:10:17 PM

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Who will win the Div 1 final

Kerry
2 (40%)
Mayo
3 (60%)

Total Members Voted: 5

Voting closed: March 29, 2025, 01:26:17 PM

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 15, 2025, 12:58:43 PM
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Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 14, 2025, 10:08:05 PMPredictions

Derry v Galway - Two great counties and two great cities for drinking pints in. Expect Galway to come out on top. Galway by 5.

Donegal v Armagh - Donegal will want to win this one to get safe so they can focus on Derry in championship. Donegal by 3.

Kerry v Dublin - Kerry should make light work if Dublin on this occasion. Dublin nowhere near full strength. Kerry by 5.

Mayo v Tyrone - Mayo's policy of producing athletes instead of footballers finally catching up on them with these new rules. Tyrone should have too much for them. Tyrone by 5.



You talk as if there is a process agreed between the Clubs in Mayo. Most teams are Managed at underage by regular parents, some that have a notion and some that don't. Getting 2 to 3 seriously talented forwards is as much by luck as design.

Mayo were a top side for the guts of a decade this was due to wane in the transition process. As for the new rules making the game easier for Footballers than Athletes - I don't know how you come up with that.

Mayo were an incredible side and should have won an all Ireland. And they reason they didn't was because they hadn't good enough quality forwards.

Their neighbors Galway are the opposite can always produce silky forwards but lacking in other areas.

Mayo had the leading all-time top scorer in Cillian O'Connor and in Andy Moran one of the best forwards/footballers from play.    The bad habit of conceding soft silly goals was the main reason for not winning any All Ireland final

Galway for all their silky forward only managed 0-13 in last year's final, their shooting accuracy/shot selection is what cost them from winning the AI.  They were more than good enough defensively and in midfield which included the footballer of the year.

 


Cillian O'Connor is the top scorer due to the volume of games. Mayo lost first round of connacht a few years they got to final. And drew a lot of games aswell. He was an exceptional free taker.

Andy Moran was originally a wing back. Probably one of the smartest players I've ever seen. Played his best football in his 30's it could be argued. But to call him an exceptional forward I'm not so sure.

seafoid

Galway's top forwards were all injured in last year's all Ireland. The difference between Shane Walsh's freetaking in the AIF and in recent league matches shows the effect of the injuries.

Blowitupref

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 15, 2025, 02:36:50 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 15, 2025, 12:58:43 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 15, 2025, 10:59:26 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 15, 2025, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 14, 2025, 10:08:05 PMPredictions

Derry v Galway - Two great counties and two great cities for drinking pints in. Expect Galway to come out on top. Galway by 5.

Donegal v Armagh - Donegal will want to win this one to get safe so they can focus on Derry in championship. Donegal by 3.

Kerry v Dublin - Kerry should make light work if Dublin on this occasion. Dublin nowhere near full strength. Kerry by 5.

Mayo v Tyrone - Mayo's policy of producing athletes instead of footballers finally catching up on them with these new rules. Tyrone should have too much for them. Tyrone by 5.



You talk as if there is a process agreed between the Clubs in Mayo. Most teams are Managed at underage by regular parents, some that have a notion and some that don't. Getting 2 to 3 seriously talented forwards is as much by luck as design.

Mayo were a top side for the guts of a decade this was due to wane in the transition process. As for the new rules making the game easier for Footballers than Athletes - I don't know how you come up with that.

Mayo were an incredible side and should have won an all Ireland. And they reason they didn't was because they hadn't good enough quality forwards.

Their neighbors Galway are the opposite can always produce silky forwards but lacking in other areas.

Mayo had the leading all-time top scorer in Cillian O'Connor and in Andy Moran one of the best forwards/footballers from play.    The bad habit of conceding soft silly goals was the main reason for not winning any All Ireland final

Galway for all their silky forward only managed 0-13 in last year's final, their shooting accuracy/shot selection is what cost them from winning the AI.  They were more than good enough defensively and in midfield which included the footballer of the year.

 


Cillian O'Connor is the top scorer due to the volume of games. Mayo lost first round of connacht a few years they got to final. And drew a lot of games aswell. He was an exceptional free taker.

Andy Moran was originally a wing back. Probably one of the smartest players I've ever seen. Played his best football in his 30's it could be argued. But to call him an exceptional forward I'm not so sure.

So was Conor McManus.  Moran was very good from play as a scorer and creator.  Having watched U17,U20 and college football over the last few years Mayo have a number of top talented forwards coming through in Ronan Clarke, Niall Hurley,Darragh Beirne,Kobe McDonald etc interesting times ahead for them to see how many step up to become established seniors.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

DuffleKing

Quote from: tiempo on February 14, 2025, 03:26:07 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on February 14, 2025, 03:08:09 PMA lot of players saying the pace of the game has went up a notch, so more subs a necessity now.

I'd imagine by the time the league is going most training is recovery, skills heavy given the schedule of games.

Injuries may dictate teams winning silverware this year the way its going

Gareth McKinless from Ballinderry literally played the AI club final with a busted knee, it was one of the most heroic and stupid things I've seen, welfare 0 bravery 1000, injured under the old rules, playing on it could take years off his playing days, probably impacted the outcome

I'm absolutely certain Donegal were on for Sam but for McBrearty's cruciate injury against Fermanagh in 2018 during the Ulster campaign

Glenn Ryan was injured playing golf in the days before the 98 AIF, still played, it may have had an impact on the outcome, injuries are part and parcel of it, thats why there's 35+ players in these squads


I lost track some time ago what exactly your point is in all of this. That tends to happen when you take a scatter gun to everything.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Blowitupref on February 15, 2025, 02:47:31 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 15, 2025, 02:36:50 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 15, 2025, 12:58:43 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 15, 2025, 10:59:26 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 15, 2025, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 14, 2025, 10:08:05 PMPredictions

Derry v Galway - Two great counties and two great cities for drinking pints in. Expect Galway to come out on top. Galway by 5.

Donegal v Armagh - Donegal will want to win this one to get safe so they can focus on Derry in championship. Donegal by 3.

Kerry v Dublin - Kerry should make light work if Dublin on this occasion. Dublin nowhere near full strength. Kerry by 5.

Mayo v Tyrone - Mayo's policy of producing athletes instead of footballers finally catching up on them with these new rules. Tyrone should have too much for them. Tyrone by 5.



You talk as if there is a process agreed between the Clubs in Mayo. Most teams are Managed at underage by regular parents, some that have a notion and some that don't. Getting 2 to 3 seriously talented forwards is as much by luck as design.

Mayo were a top side for the guts of a decade this was due to wane in the transition process. As for the new rules making the game easier for Footballers than Athletes - I don't know how you come up with that.

Mayo were an incredible side and should have won an all Ireland. And they reason they didn't was because they hadn't good enough quality forwards.

Their neighbors Galway are the opposite can always produce silky forwards but lacking in other areas.

Mayo had the leading all-time top scorer in Cillian O'Connor and in Andy Moran one of the best forwards/footballers from play.    The bad habit of conceding soft silly goals was the main reason for not winning any All Ireland final

Galway for all their silky forward only managed 0-13 in last year's final, their shooting accuracy/shot selection is what cost them from winning the AI.  They were more than good enough defensively and in midfield which included the footballer of the year.

 


Cillian O'Connor is the top scorer due to the volume of games. Mayo lost first round of connacht a few years they got to final. And drew a lot of games aswell. He was an exceptional free taker.

Andy Moran was originally a wing back. Probably one of the smartest players I've ever seen. Played his best football in his 30's it could be argued. But to call him an exceptional forward I'm not so sure.

So was Conor McManus.  Moran was very good from play as a scorer and creator.  Having watched U17,U20 and college football over the last few years Mayo have a number of top talented forwards coming through in Ronan Clarke, Niall Hurley,Darragh Beirne,Kobe McDonald etc interesting times ahead for them to see how many step up to become established seniors.

Haha I was waiting for you to mention McManus. Not sure if you can compare the two. McManus was one of the best strikers of a ball you'd ever see.

Moran had some the best movement of any corner forward I've seen though I'll give him that he was very intelligent and got the most out of his ability.

Yes will be interesting to see how Kobe Donald does. If he's half as good as his father he'll be exceptional.

Tubberman

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 15, 2025, 03:50:48 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 15, 2025, 02:47:31 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 15, 2025, 02:36:50 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 15, 2025, 12:58:43 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 15, 2025, 10:59:26 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 15, 2025, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 14, 2025, 10:08:05 PMPredictions

Derry v Galway - Two great counties and two great cities for drinking pints in. Expect Galway to come out on top. Galway by 5.

Donegal v Armagh - Donegal will want to win this one to get safe so they can focus on Derry in championship. Donegal by 3.

Kerry v Dublin - Kerry should make light work if Dublin on this occasion. Dublin nowhere near full strength. Kerry by 5.

Mayo v Tyrone - Mayo's policy of producing athletes instead of footballers finally catching up on them with these new rules. Tyrone should have too much for them. Tyrone by 5.



You talk as if there is a process agreed between the Clubs in Mayo. Most teams are Managed at underage by regular parents, some that have a notion and some that don't. Getting 2 to 3 seriously talented forwards is as much by luck as design.

Mayo were a top side for the guts of a decade this was due to wane in the transition process. As for the new rules making the game easier for Footballers than Athletes - I don't know how you come up with that.

Mayo were an incredible side and should have won an all Ireland. And they reason they didn't was because they hadn't good enough quality forwards.

Their neighbors Galway are the opposite can always produce silky forwards but lacking in other areas.

Mayo had the leading all-time top scorer in Cillian O'Connor and in Andy Moran one of the best forwards/footballers from play.    The bad habit of conceding soft silly goals was the main reason for not winning any All Ireland final

Galway for all their silky forward only managed 0-13 in last year's final, their shooting accuracy/shot selection is what cost them from winning the AI.  They were more than good enough defensively and in midfield which included the footballer of the year.

 


Cillian O'Connor is the top scorer due to the volume of games. Mayo lost first round of connacht a few years they got to final. And drew a lot of games aswell. He was an exceptional free taker.

Andy Moran was originally a wing back. Probably one of the smartest players I've ever seen. Played his best football in his 30's it could be argued. But to call him an exceptional forward I'm not so sure.

So was Conor McManus.  Moran was very good from play as a scorer and creator.  Having watched U17,U20 and college football over the last few years Mayo have a number of top talented forwards coming through in Ronan Clarke, Niall Hurley,Darragh Beirne,Kobe McDonald etc interesting times ahead for them to see how many step up to become established seniors.

Haha I was waiting for you to mention McManus. Not sure if you can compare the two. McManus was one of the best strikers of a ball you'd ever see.

Moran had some the best movement of any corner forward I've seen though I'll give him that he was very intelligent and got the most out of his ability.

Yes will be interesting to see how Kobe Donald does. If he's half as good as his father he'll be exceptional.

We mightnt get the opportunity to see how he does - off to Oz if rumours are correct.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

galwayman

There was a lot of talk about Clarke three years ago at minor level. He has been dogged with injuries since then though. Even then I thought Niall Hurley was a better player. He could be a big player for Mayo very soon.
McDonald very talented alright. If he doesn't go to Oz it's only a matter or time before he breaks through to Mayo seniors.

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5times5times

Is it just me, or are Derry not very good?

Blowitupref

Quote from: 5times5times on February 15, 2025, 05:25:47 PMIs it just me, or are Derry not very good?

Aren't good against a very sharp Galway outfit.
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Brendan

Quote from: 5times5times on February 15, 2025, 05:25:47 PMIs it just me, or are Derry not very good?

It's not just you, it's a fact all of a sudden

seafoid


Blowitupref

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Fine block by Maher to prevent a Derry Goal there.   Half time Derry 0-4 Galway 1-10
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