Teachers get it handy!

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Yes, tradesmen are absolutely murdered. Said nobody who has ever had one do work for them.
Do what they want. When they want. Charge what they want.

[Saffrongael]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

[Armagh18]

Yes, tradesmen are absolutely murdered. Said nobody who has ever had one do work for them.
Do what they want. When they want. Charge what they want.

Howl on now, theres plenty I know local getting up at half 4 in the morning to go to Dublin, yes they are earning good money but they work hard for it.

[Milltown Row2]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

You can add to your own pension with the bigger earnings the private sector earns over the teachers.

[Tony Baloney]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

You can add to your own pension with the bigger earnings the private sector earns over the teachers.

A bit silly to compare pension contributions coming out of your own pay packet (employee contribution) vs those funded by the tax-payer (employer contribution).

[Milltown Row2]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

You can add to your own pension with the bigger earnings the private sector earns over the teachers.

A bit silly to compare pension contributions coming out of your own pay packet (employee contribution) vs those funded by the tax-payer (employer contribution).

I just said you can add, not silly at all, in fact it would be sensible, we take jobs on knowing how it works.

Those applying for public sector jobs know that.

[Wee Barky]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

You can add to your own pension with the bigger earnings the private sector earns over the teachers.

A bit silly to compare pension contributions coming out of your own pay packet (employee contribution) vs those funded by the tax-payer (employer contribution).

I just said you can add, not silly at all, in fact it would be sensible, we take jobs on knowing how it works.

Those applying for public sector jobs know that.

Agreed. Public sector jobs pay sales are readily available before people decide to go that route.

[Truthsayer]

Anyone know why underpaid teachers and nurses get ridiculed for going on strike but not a word bout money-laden barristers with loadsa Crown Court cases being put off the last two months?... victims of henious crimes having to endure that sh*te..
Capitalist media?

[johnnycool]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

I was speaking to a former plumber who now works for a local council at facilities management and they contribute 19% of his annual salary to a pension pot.

That's unreal.

[tbrick18]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

I was speaking to a former plumber who now works for a local council at facilities management and they contribute 19% of his annual salary to a pension pot.

That's unreal.

It's basically all their tax payments being returned in a pension.
Mad.
Basic salary might be less than a lot of private sector jobs, but in retirement they'll be kept comfortable.

[JoG2]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

I was speaking to a former plumber who now works for a local council at facilities management and they contribute 19% of his annual salary to a pension pot.

That's unreal.

It's basically all their tax payments being returned in a pension.
Mad.
Basic salary might be less than a lot of private sector jobs, but in retirement they'll be kept comfortable.

Lovely jubbly 

[HiMucker]

Anyone know why underpaid teachers and nurses get ridiculed for going on strike but not a word bout money-laden barristers with loadsa Crown Court cases being put off the last two months?... victims of henious crimes having to endure that sh*te..
Capitalist media?

Probably to do with the amount of people affected when teachers and nurses strike.

[Smokin Joe]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

I was speaking to a former plumber who now works for a local council at facilities management and they contribute 19% of his annual salary to a pension pot.

That's unreal.

But is he financially better off overall?

These are made up numbers to explain what I mean.

what does he earn working for the council, 50k?  If it was that number then 19% of it is 9.5k into his pension pot.
If he instead worked as a plumber as his own boss I would imagine he would earn at least the 9.5k that is going into his pension over and above his council salary.

I get that the level of stress and workload are probably different, but from a financial PoV I wouldn't think there would be too many tradesmen that would pack it in and go work for the council.
As part of an overall work / life balance I could see why someone would do it, but pension couldn't be the main driver.

[Milltown Row2]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

I was speaking to a former plumber who now works for a local council at facilities management and they contribute 19% of his annual salary to a pension pot.

That's unreal.

But is he financially better off overall?

These are made up numbers to explain what I mean.

what does he earn working for the council, 50k?  If it was that number then 19% of it is 9.5k into his pension pot.
If he instead worked as a plumber as his own boss I would imagine he would earn at least the 9.5k that is going into his pension over and above his council salary.

I get that the level of stress and workload are probably different, but from a financial PoV I wouldn't think there would be too many tradesmen that would pack it in and go work for the council.
As part of an overall work / life balance I could see why someone would do it, but pension couldn't be the main driver.

Always thought I could go public sector for my last ten years, have that flexibility, ten years of pension topped up, better holidays and lesser personal pressure on my workload. But nah, luckily I'm in a 9 to 5 role which suits me, but if the benefits did outweigh the pay then I could revisit it.

[johnnycool]

And we won't mention the pensions, that nobody in the private sector could afford to pay into

I was speaking to a former plumber who now works for a local council at facilities management and they contribute 19% of his annual salary to a pension pot.

That's unreal.

But is he financially better off overall?

These are made up numbers to explain what I mean.

what does he earn working for the council, 50k?  If it was that number then 19% of it is 9.5k into his pension pot.
If he instead worked as a plumber as his own boss I would imagine he would earn at least the 9.5k that is going into his pension over and above his council salary.

I get that the level of stress and workload are probably different, but from a financial PoV I wouldn't think there would be too many tradesmen that would pack it in and go work for the council.
As part of an overall work / life balance I could see why someone would do it, but pension couldn't be the main driver.

Pension probably isn't the main driver and he ain't the fittest so no more kneeling on cold floors, hoking in and around tight spaces (plumbing that is) and the family are all up, but I was just pointing out there's no way he'd get that in the private sector unless he'd be on a bonus scheme where you could top up the pension at the end of the year and avoid the tax on the bonus!