Teachers get it handy!

[trueblue1234]

What's the average salary for a teacher say 5 years into their career? I know there's points system but roughly what would you expect to be earning after 5 years teaching?

Would say about £40k ?

Not a bad salary at 27

What would a teacher with 25yrs teaching be earning?
There's a very narrow band there if a 27 year old is earning 40K I know that much.

I suppose that's in line with most roles unless you're getting promotions. Once you've got 5 years experience in a role, for me you're as experienced as you'll need to be within reason. I wouldn't imagine the extra 20 years brings much more to the role.
How much would say a Senior teacher/ VP be on?

[Tony Baloney]

My Mrs voted no as there was something in the offer about not being able to take future strike action - or something along those lines, I was only half listening.
Someone said there that principals are out of touch with teachers - that I'd agree with. Meetings after meetings for what seems like no reason after school hours.
They also seem to take every parent's word over a teacher's word - making the teacher's feels like they are somehow neglecting children and have to provide evidence that they are not. Hence all these individual learning plans, monthly planners etc. There's more time doing needless paperwork than doing actual teaching and a lot of it is to cover your ass in case someone makes a complaint about their wee angel not being treated right. 9/10 times the wee angel is a wee sh*t and the parents aren't far behind, but they have the power.  Gone are the days when a principal would back the teacher it seems.

My Mrs is teaching a long time, covers Special Ed Needs kids in school on top of her teaching job for an extra £25/week (ish) on a management point. She earns less than a 25 year old mechanic I know.
Say what you want about them rejecting pay rises, they don't get paid enough in general for the job they do, just like nurses etc.

But, the holidays are class. And you couldn't listen to them on a night out.

  I could have written that! They are f**king dynamite. The combination of entitlement, feeling down-trodden at the same time as working like a miner in an African gold mine make them hard-going when they're together!

Agree with all that above but it depends how much of a position of power the school is in. Her school would have been under-subscibed in the past so the Head would have licked the boots of the parents, now they have more people applying than there are desks so he's happier now to tell problematic parents to take their weans elsewhere if they don't like the service they receive.

[Tony Baloney]

What's the average salary for a teacher say 5 years into their career? I know there's points system but roughly what would you expect to be earning after 5 years teaching?

Would say about £40k ?

Not a bad salary at 27

What would a teacher with 25yrs teaching be earning?
There's a very narrow band there if a 27 year old is earning 40K I know that much.

I suppose that's in line with most roles unless you're getting promotions. Once you've got 5 years experience in a role, for me you're as experienced as you'll need to be within reason. I wouldn't imagine the extra 20 years brings much more to the role.
How much would say a Senior teacher/ VP be on?

Experienced teacher with a couple of management points probably on about 55k nowadays. I'm pretty sure principals are paid based on the size of school so anything from high 5 figures to well into 6 figures.

[Milltown Row2]

What's the average salary for a teacher say 5 years into their career? I know there's points system but roughly what would you expect to be earning after 5 years teaching?

Would say about £40k ?

After 5 years £40?

I'll have to have a word with her

[tbrick18]

What's the average salary for a teacher say 5 years into their career? I know there's points system but roughly what would you expect to be earning after 5 years teaching?

Would say about £40k ?

Not a bad salary at 27

What would a teacher with 25yrs teaching be earning?
There's a very narrow band there if a 27 year old is earning 40K I know that much.

I suppose that's in line with most roles unless you're getting promotions. Once you've got 5 years experience in a role, for me you're as experienced as you'll need to be within reason. I wouldn't imagine the extra 20 years brings much more to the role.
How much would say a Senior teacher/ VP be on?

Experienced teacher with a couple of management points probably on about 55k nowadays. I'm pretty sure principals are paid based on the size of school so anything from high 5 figures to well into 6 figures.

Def not 55K, or anywhere close.
I think when they get to the top of the pay scale it just sits. Management points are not worth that much in terms of take home and there seems to be a fair bit of extra work involved when you have one. There's not enough management points to go around all teachers in a school either, so there a plenty of senior teachers who get to the top of their scale and then that's as far as they can go. The only option is to get a VP or Principal role elsewhere, and there aren't that many of those jobs.

I do think there is different bands of pay for principals based on school size, so it would be in the interests of the Principal to get as many kids in as they can to up their own pay. Not sure what VP salaries are, higher than a senior teacher but not that close to principal I'd say.

[tbrick18]

Actually a quick google and I found this:

https://www.education-ni.gov.uk/publications/circular-2024-06-teachers-pay-and-allowances-1-september-2023

[Delgany 2nds]

Actually a quick google and I found this:

https://www.education-ni.gov.uk/publications/circular-2024-06-teachers-pay-and-allowances-1-september-2023

Once the Income Tax, Nat Ins & Pension come out ...its not so great. I appreciate everyone pays the same but the top line isn't in anyone's pockets.

[Wildweasel74]

£55k, where you getting this lol

[Delgany 2nds]

£55k, where you getting this lol

An experienced teacher at top of pay scale with 1 Allowance would earn £48 500 Gross at the minute.

[Armagh18]

£55k, where you getting this lol

An experienced teacher at top of pay scale with 1 Allowance would earn £48 500 Gross at the minute.

Jesus thats not great is it by the time the tax man bends you over and does his thing

[trueblue1234]

Jeez it's not bad. Nearly 50k certainly not hard done by in any sense.
Tax is a bit of a moot point as everyone hit the same unless self employed.

Just took a look at the indeed salary survey for accountants and Average salary is £38,000 for an Accountant. Surely comparable.

[Delgany 2nds]

Jeez it's not bad. Nearly 50k certainly not hard done by in any sense.
Tax is a bit of a moot point as everyone hit the same unless self employed.

Just took a look at the indeed salary survey for accountants and Average salary is £38,000 for an Accountant. Surely comparable.

£38k is average starting salary for an accountant...a teacher's starting salary is £30k.

[Tony Baloney]

£55k, where you getting this lol

With the pay rise and 2 management points (which I did say) would have you around 54k so I wasn't far off.

[Kidder81]

Is it just teachers pay tax & NI ? As for their pension contributions, is it 5 or 6 times the contribution of the employer to the employee ?

[trueblue1234]

Jeez it's not bad. Nearly 50k certainly not hard done by in any sense.
Tax is a bit of a moot point as everyone hit the same unless self employed.

Just took a look at the indeed salary survey for accountants and Average salary is £38,000 for an Accountant. Surely comparable.

£38k is average starting salary for an accountant...a teacher's starting salary is £30k.

No, average base salary for accountants. Not newly qualified. 3-5 years.
£30k is a hell of a starting salary.