Hlocaust memorial day

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J70

Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 29, 2025, 05:11:11 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 05:35:25 PM
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 28, 2025, 02:53:08 PMWhy are we even still talking about this? It was a war, terrible things happen. Wars and terrible things have happened since. I don't believe it was a 'uniquely' terrible event, terrible and all that it was. The fact is it's constantly trotted out to remind us Europeans how terrible we are, and how we must continue to be punished for it. If it had happened to any other group of people, we wouldn't still be on about it. Unfortunately, it's become the 'foundational myth' for the West, and the West hasn't benefitted form looking back at it, one iota.

Woke ideology, for a start.
How are you being punished?

Just for a start? How does that work?

What "woke ideology "?


How is it connected to remembering the unspeakable horror and atrocities of the holocaust?

JoG2

Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 29, 2025, 05:11:11 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 28, 2025, 05:35:25 PM
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 28, 2025, 02:53:08 PMWhy are we even still talking about this? It was a war, terrible things happen. Wars and terrible things have happened since. I don't believe it was a 'uniquely' terrible event, terrible and all that it was. The fact is it's constantly trotted out to remind us Europeans how terrible we are, and how we must continue to be punished for it. If it had happened to any other group of people, we wouldn't still be on about it. Unfortunately, it's become the 'foundational myth' for the West, and the West hasn't benefitted form looking back at it, one iota.

Woke ideology, for a start.
How are you being punished?

Define woke...

Rossfan

Woke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

whitey

Quote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2025, 05:51:16 PMWoke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist


Woke.....

https://www.iwf.org/2023/03/27/20-examples-that-show-what-woke-is/

J70

Quote from: whitey on January 29, 2025, 06:10:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2025, 05:51:16 PMWoke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist


Woke.....

https://www.iwf.org/2023/03/27/20-examples-that-show-what-woke-is/

Now do anti woke with the same hysterical tone and cherry-picked examples.

That aside, are you agreeing with Dagda Moore??

JoG2

Quote from: J70 on January 29, 2025, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 29, 2025, 06:10:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2025, 05:51:16 PMWoke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist


Woke.....

https://www.iwf.org/2023/03/27/20-examples-that-show-what-woke-is/

Now do anti woke with the same hysterical tone and cherry-picked examples.

That aside, are you agreeing with Dagda Moore??

If there's hate involved, it's probably a yes

Rossfan

Woke:-

Compassion
Kindness
Respect
Decency
Jesus Christ
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

whitey

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Quote from: J70 on January 29, 2025, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 29, 2025, 06:10:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2025, 05:51:16 PMWoke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist


Woke.....

https://www.iwf.org/2023/03/27/20-examples-that-show-what-woke-is/

Now do anti woke with the same hysterical tone and cherry-picked examples.

That aside, are you agreeing with Dagda Moore??

I don't even know who that is ?

What did they say?

EDIT-I see it's another poster

Well unlike many people on this board, I have actually been to Dachau

I also went to see the Auschwitz exhibit in Boston last year

https://theauschwitzexhibition.com/

I lived in a town with a large Jewish population where it was not unusual for the kids to serve in the Israeli military upon graduation from High School

My mentor and close friend is Jewish.....I had dinner with him and his wife in December

So I would say I am very much pro Jewish and pro Israel

tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on January 29, 2025, 06:10:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2025, 05:51:16 PMWoke.....
Doesn't deny the Holocaust and Concentration Camps
Doesn't support murdering 50,000 Palestinians
Wants Civil and equal rights for all
Wants working people paid a fair wage
Wants a decent public health service
Anti Nazifascist


Woke.....

https://www.iwf.org/2023/03/27/20-examples-that-show-what-woke-is/

What is that bullshit

Gabriel_Hurl

If whitey is posting a link to their site you just know what side of the argument they are going for

Oh look

QuoteThe IWF is a member of the advisory board of Project 2025, a collection of conservative and right-wing policy proposals from the Heritage Foundation to reshape the United States federal government and consolidate executive power should the Republican nominee win the 2024 presidential election

QuoteAnother major sponsor is the Charles Koch Institute

whitey

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 29, 2025, 08:34:18 PMIf whitey is posting a link to their site you just know what side of the argument they are going for

Oh look

QuoteThe IWF is a member of the advisory board of Project 2025, a collection of conservative and right-wing policy proposals from the Heritage Foundation to reshape the United States federal government and consolidate executive power should the Republican nominee win the 2024 presidential election

QuoteAnother major sponsor is the Charles Koch Institute

So what-it's a list

It's about as ridiculous as the woke nonsense we've all be subjected to for the past few years over here

An important part why Trump won-people have had it with the non stop outrage and virtue signaling.

Tampon Tim and Kamala had themselves tied up in knots explaining reproductive freedom for biological males and taxpayer funded sex change operations for criminals

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAI3nriuPxw/?igsh=YTMxOHhtMDQ4dTc3

Meanwhile regular people are trying to buy groceries and put their kids through college

Eamonnca1

Quote from: NAG1 on January 28, 2025, 03:41:40 PMI did see a quote somewhere yesterday got me thinking, not one single Israeli died in the Holocaust.

When you start to work back from that stand point does put a bit of context on the whole issue.

Also don't forget these Zionists that are all over social media on this wouldn't be your regular Jew/ Israeli, they are as extreme as Hamas on the other side. So I wouldn't be listening to too much they are coming out with.

True. In addition, not one Palestinian participated in the holocaust.

Puckoon

Being aware, awake of long held disparities in the world is not something to be ashamed of. The hijacking of the word woke as in being awake to suggest pathetic societal attitudes is pretty disgusting. There are "super" woke initiatives that perhaps don't need to be resolved at the same time as racial and sexual discrimination. There is a hierarchy of precedents set in times gone by that does need to change as the world evolves however. I will continue to be "woke" to those, along with many decent human beings.

armaghniac

Quote from: Puckoon on January 29, 2025, 09:10:51 PMI will continue to be "woke" to those, along with many decent human beings.

Which is precisely the reason for the overdue anti-woke backlash, the assertion that you are "decent" and the implication that everyone else is not.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Puckoon

Quote from: armaghniac on January 29, 2025, 09:19:45 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 29, 2025, 09:10:51 PMI will continue to be "woke" to those, along with many decent human beings.

Which is precisely the reason for the overdue anti-woke backlash, the assertion that you are "decent" and the implication that everyone else is not.

Absolutely not what was written at all. I expect you know that.

There is no need to backlash against genuine efforts to improve the lot of others, particularly if it is not at the expense of anyone else. Unless of course their behaviour is not decent.