Hurling 2024

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Saffrongael

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 17, 2024, 02:25:49 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on November 17, 2024, 02:10:34 PMIf Ballygunner continue this form whoever comes out of Ulster will be in for a long day

Not sure, BG have got it easy, I know Doon gave them a rattle but S'niel won't fear them should they get through, they've been very unlucky most years against these 'big' clubs with generally a puck of the ball between them

The accuracy last night would be hard to match

We will see but there's a reason they have it easy & they have whatever rustiness out of their system now after the Doon game
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Milltown Row2

Westmeath Castletown beating Thomastown in the battle of the towns handy enough
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

didlyi

Good old fashioned hurling at its best in Armagh last night. Watching the ballygunner game now and the amount of throwing and short passing 'modern day' hurling would make you puke.

johnnycool

I bet you'd get short odds on a Derry clean sweep of the Ulster Club championships now...


Orior

Quote from: johnnycool on November 18, 2024, 08:19:46 AMI bet you'd get short odds on a Derry clean sweep of the Ulster Club championships now...



Gwan, put your money where your mouth is.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

johnnycool

Quote from: Orior on November 18, 2024, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 18, 2024, 08:19:46 AMI bet you'd get short odds on a Derry clean sweep of the Ulster Club championships now...



Gwan, put your money where your mouth is.

I'm off to Toals in Portaferry to see what they're offering...

Luckily the office manager is a Ballycran man so he's probably on SN already  ;D

Champion The Wonder Horse

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Quote from: johnnycool on November 18, 2024, 08:19:46 AMI bet you'd get short odds on a Derry clean sweep of the Ulster Club championships now...

I'd keep my money in my pocket if I was you. We'd be massive underdogs for the final. We're only playing intermediate instead of Junior because we got a massively favourable draw (if you want to call it that) in the qualifiers in Derry. And we'll either be playing Castleblayney who beat the team who beat us in last year's Ulster junior. Or we'll be playing a battle-hardened Carey Faughs team who have won the title before.

Anyway, we'll give it our best shot on the day and see where it takes us.

Don Cockburn

Quote from: didlyi on November 17, 2024, 02:38:43 PMGood old fashioned hurling at its best in Armagh last night. Watching the ballygunner game now and the amount of throwing and short passing 'modern day' hurling would make you puke.
The handpasses are just about legal though.
The only way to stop it is a rule change.

Franko

Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: didlyi on November 17, 2024, 02:38:43 PMGood old fashioned hurling at its best in Armagh last night. Watching the ballygunner game now and the amount of throwing and short passing 'modern day' hurling would make you puke.
The handpasses are just about legal though.
The only way to stop it is a rule change.

No rule changes are required.  For a change in the GAA, the rules as written are absolutely fine, but referees are not interpreting them properly.

This is a hill I'm prepared to die on.

Don Cockburn

Quote from: Franko on November 20, 2024, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: didlyi on November 17, 2024, 02:38:43 PMGood old fashioned hurling at its best in Armagh last night. Watching the ballygunner game now and the amount of throwing and short passing 'modern day' hurling would make you puke.
The handpasses are just about legal though.
The only way to stop it is a rule change.

No rule changes are required.  For a change in the GAA, the rules as written are absolutely fine, but referees are not interpreting them properly.

This is a hill I'm prepared to die on.
If a player releases the ball by a millimeter before striking it, it is a valid pass. It looks a throw ball to most people.

johnnycool

Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: Franko on November 20, 2024, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: didlyi on November 17, 2024, 02:38:43 PMGood old fashioned hurling at its best in Armagh last night. Watching the ballygunner game now and the amount of throwing and short passing 'modern day' hurling would make you puke.
The handpasses are just about legal though.
The only way to stop it is a rule change.

No rule changes are required.  For a change in the GAA, the rules as written are absolutely fine, but referees are not interpreting them properly.

This is a hill I'm prepared to die on.
If a player releases the ball by a millimeter before striking it, it is a valid pass. It looks a throw ball to most people.

If you remember during the summer in the Kilkenny semi-final v Clare the poor referee blew up two players for throw balls, one was against Eoin Cody who was lying on his back tight to the sideline and for all intense purposed it did look like a throw ball in real time but on the slow motion there was a definitive gap/release of the ball before the hand strike and a fantastic piece of skill.

Referees are damned if they do and damned if they don't so the only way to fix it is a rule change.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: johnnycool on November 20, 2024, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: Franko on November 20, 2024, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: didlyi on November 17, 2024, 02:38:43 PMGood old fashioned hurling at its best in Armagh last night. Watching the ballygunner game now and the amount of throwing and short passing 'modern day' hurling would make you puke.
The handpasses are just about legal though.
The only way to stop it is a rule change.

No rule changes are required.  For a change in the GAA, the rules as written are absolutely fine, but referees are not interpreting them properly.

This is a hill I'm prepared to die on.
If a player releases the ball by a millimeter before striking it, it is a valid pass. It looks a throw ball to most people.

If you remember during the summer in the Kilkenny semi-final v Clare the poor referee blew up two players for throw balls, one was against Eoin Cody who was lying on his back tight to the sideline and for all intense purposed it did look like a throw ball in real time but on the slow motion there was a definitive gap/release of the ball before the hand strike and a fantastic piece of skill.

Referees are damned if they do and damned if they don't so the only way to fix it is a rule change.

Who is most concerned about it though? Most hurling folk I know are happy with the game, it's improved year on year and no one is looking for changes...

But

Catch/call it if you see it (as a ref) and play on, most blatant throws are generally pulled. And if some are incorrect then it makes the next player try and be more visible in passing it
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Armagh18

Quote from: johnnycool on November 20, 2024, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: Franko on November 20, 2024, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: didlyi on November 17, 2024, 02:38:43 PMGood old fashioned hurling at its best in Armagh last night. Watching the ballygunner game now and the amount of throwing and short passing 'modern day' hurling would make you puke.
The handpasses are just about legal though.
The only way to stop it is a rule change.

No rule changes are required.  For a change in the GAA, the rules as written are absolutely fine, but referees are not interpreting them properly.

This is a hill I'm prepared to die on.
If a player releases the ball by a millimeter before striking it, it is a valid pass. It looks a throw ball to most people.

If you remember during the summer in the Kilkenny semi-final v Clare the poor referee blew up two players for throw balls, one was against Eoin Cody who was lying on his back tight to the sideline and for all intense purposed it did look like a throw ball in real time but on the slow motion there was a definitive gap/release of the ball before the hand strike and a fantastic piece of skill.

Referees are damned if they do and damned if they don't so the only way to fix it is a rule change.
In fairness the ref doesn't see it in slow mo obviously. Leave it as it is and let the refs call it- if they cant see a clear strike then give a throw.

Franko

Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: Franko on November 20, 2024, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: didlyi on November 17, 2024, 02:38:43 PMGood old fashioned hurling at its best in Armagh last night. Watching the ballygunner game now and the amount of throwing and short passing 'modern day' hurling would make you puke.
The handpasses are just about legal though.
The only way to stop it is a rule change.

No rule changes are required.  For a change in the GAA, the rules as written are absolutely fine, but referees are not interpreting them properly.

This is a hill I'm prepared to die on.
If a player releases the ball by a millimeter before striking it, it is a valid pass. It looks a throw ball to most people.

Nope

That's not what the rules say

So many people clamouring for a change in the rules - and they haven't even read the rules

FWIW if it was up to me, I'd leave well enough alone - but if a change is insisted upon, it's not the wording of the rules that need changed

Franko

#554
Quote from: johnnycool on November 20, 2024, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: Franko on November 20, 2024, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: Don Cockburn on November 20, 2024, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: didlyi on November 17, 2024, 02:38:43 PMGood old fashioned hurling at its best in Armagh last night. Watching the ballygunner game now and the amount of throwing and short passing 'modern day' hurling would make you puke.
The handpasses are just about legal though.
The only way to stop it is a rule change.

No rule changes are required.  For a change in the GAA, the rules as written are absolutely fine, but referees are not interpreting them properly.

This is a hill I'm prepared to die on.
If a player releases the ball by a millimeter before striking it, it is a valid pass. It looks a throw ball to most people.

If you remember during the summer in the Kilkenny semi-final v Clare the poor referee blew up two players for throw balls, one was against Eoin Cody who was lying on his back tight to the sideline and for all intense purposed it did look like a throw ball in real time but on the slow motion there was a definitive gap/release of the ball before the hand strike and a fantastic piece of skill.

Referees are damned if they do and damned if they don't so the only way to fix it is a rule change.

If it looked like a throw in real time then IT IS A FOUL

It doesn't matter what the slow-mo shows