All-Stars 2024

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Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: haveaharp on October 31, 2024, 10:23:09 AM6 all stars and Sam. Think we would have settled for that 6 months ago
100%. It sounds like Armagh wanted all the All Stars.

David McKeown

A number of strange selections for me.

Hughes was superb and pivotal to Armagh this year. Morgan is a great player but was untested at the business end of the championship.

Strange the criticism of Turbit but not of Finnerty for the same reason.

Mulroy, McKay, Grimley unlucky to miss out.

Also surprised to see Conaty win one. Not because he didn't deserve it but just because they often use the young player of the year as an extra all star and I think he will win young player of the year this year.
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Estimator

Quote from: David McKeown on October 31, 2024, 10:25:02 AMA number of strange selections for me.

Hughes was superb and pivotal to Armagh this year. Morgan is a great player but was untested at the business end of the championship.

Strange the criticism of Turbit but not of Finnerty for the same reason.

Mulroy, McKay, Grimley unlucky to miss out.

Also surprised to see Conaty win one. Not because he didn't deserve it but just because they often use the young player of the year as an extra all star and I think he will win young player of the year this year.

Morgan is getting the All Star for his performances, not those around him. Wasn't his fault the rest of the team (bar Darragh) were awful this year.

Can point to Fergal Byron in '03 and Gary Connaughton in '08 in terms of teams bowing out before the semi finals and picking up the keeper award.

I'd agree with Conaty, as you say the YPoTY is normally held out as another/extra All Star.
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ShutterinbyDayGAAbyNight

First time since 2003 that no players from Dublin or Kerry have been selected for the All-Star team

Estimator

In 2003 - Kerry made the semi's that year and got nothing. Laois (3) and Galway (1) only made the QFs, Tipp (1) were knocked out in Round 3 of the qualifiers. Dubs also knocked out in Round 3.
Ulster League Champions 2009

Truthsayer

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2024, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2024, 10:05:44 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2024, 10:00:23 AM
Quote from: Mario on October 31, 2024, 09:50:47 AMTyrone beat Cavan (aet), Clare and Cork and have an all star, lost to any good team they played, laughable decision to give any Tyrone player an all star.
Brolly got one in 96.....
Did Derry not win the league in '96 ?
And? I don't see Mario mentioning any league games.
And nothing  :D ... just saying that probly contributed to him get an All Star test year

RedHand88

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 31, 2024, 09:14:48 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 31, 2024, 09:11:28 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 31, 2024, 09:03:17 AM6 games, 5 clean sheets.
Another excellent year out the field.
Morgan not a bad shout.

This may be odd from an Armagh man but I really like Morgan. Great keeper. I just don't think he was the best this year and combine that with Tyrone's poor year overall i don't think he should have got it over Hughes. The recent inter provincials could have played a part too.
Yeah agree with this. Morgan is a serious footballer but didnt deserve it over Blaine.

Soupy and Joe McElroy not even getting nominated told me all I need to know anyway.

Was soupy not a sub most of the year??

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2024, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2024, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2024, 10:05:44 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2024, 10:00:23 AM
Quote from: Mario on October 31, 2024, 09:50:47 AMTyrone beat Cavan (aet), Clare and Cork and have an all star, lost to any good team they played, laughable decision to give any Tyrone player an all star.
Brolly got one in 96.....
Did Derry not win the league in '96 ?
And? I don't see Mario mentioning any league games.
And nothing  :D ... just saying that probly contributed to him get an All Star test year
They won it this year too. Did they even get a nomination?

Estimator

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2024, 11:00:40 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2024, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2024, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 31, 2024, 10:05:44 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2024, 10:00:23 AM
Quote from: Mario on October 31, 2024, 09:50:47 AMTyrone beat Cavan (aet), Clare and Cork and have an all star, lost to any good team they played, laughable decision to give any Tyrone player an all star.
Brolly got one in 96.....
Did Derry not win the league in '96 ?
And? I don't see Mario mentioning any league games.
And nothing  :D ... just saying that probly contributed to him get an All Star test year
They won it this year too. Did they even get a nomination?

Nope. First time since the introduction of the All Star awards that the league champions didn't receive a nomination.
Ulster League Champions 2009

Spiderlegs

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 31, 2024, 10:49:29 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 31, 2024, 09:14:48 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 31, 2024, 09:11:28 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 31, 2024, 09:03:17 AM6 games, 5 clean sheets.
Another excellent year out the field.
Morgan not a bad shout.

This may be odd from an Armagh man but I really like Morgan. Great keeper. I just don't think he was the best this year and combine that with Tyrone's poor year overall i don't think he should have got it over Hughes. The recent inter provincials could have played a part too.
Yeah agree with this. Morgan is a serious footballer but didnt deserve it over Blaine.

Soupy and Joe McElroy not even getting nominated told me all I need to know anyway.

Was soupy not a sub most of the year??

He started every game league and championship until the last group game vs Galway... he started on the bench that day as well as the QF, SF & Final.

Even though he made a huge impact off the bench in all these games, it was the latter stages of the championship that affected his nomination and beyond.
Which is why it is bizarre that Niall Morgan (brilliant keeper, brilliant player) got selected.

onefaircounty

Quote from: RedHand88 on October 31, 2024, 10:49:29 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 31, 2024, 09:14:48 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 31, 2024, 09:11:28 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 31, 2024, 09:03:17 AM6 games, 5 clean sheets.
Another excellent year out the field.
Morgan not a bad shout.

This may be odd from an Armagh man but I really like Morgan. Great keeper. I just don't think he was the best this year and combine that with Tyrone's poor year overall i don't think he should have got it over Hughes. The recent inter provincials could have played a part too.
Yeah agree with this. Morgan is a serious footballer but didnt deserve it over Blaine.

Soupy and Joe McElroy not even getting nominated told me all I need to know anyway.

Was soupy not a sub most of the year??

No. Started most of their games and did very well too.

Super sub tag understandable given what he did off the bench against Galway, twice, and Kerry.

bennydorano

Quote from: scout on October 31, 2024, 08:50:10 AMThe recency bias of the railway cup has done Morgan a massive favour
I was going to post after those games that it had probably cemented Niall Grimley's All Star! Yet here we are.

The All Stars are what they are, but the omission of Blaine Hughes & Aaron McKay are a bit of a joke imo. I would have had Grimley in ahead of Crealey.

Duine Inteacht Eile

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Quote from: bennydorano on October 31, 2024, 11:19:28 AM
Quote from: scout on October 31, 2024, 08:50:10 AMThe recency bias of the railway cup has done Morgan a massive favour
I was going to post after those games that it had probably cemented Niall Grimley's All Star! Yet here we are.

The All Stars are what they are, but the omission of Blaine Hughes & Aaron McKay are a bit of a joke imo. I would have had Grimley in ahead of Crealey.
That would give Armagh 9 All Stars?

Some of the Dublin teams who walked to All Irelands, hammering all in front of them didn't get that many.

People losing the run of themselves here.

For perspective, Armagh "drew" with Kerry in the semi final. Kerry didn't get any.

Ethan Tremblay

Genuine question.  What is the criteria for all star selection? Is it down in paper or is it at the person who votes complete discretion?

What games are taken into consideration throughout the year? Championship games only?
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Armamike

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on October 31, 2024, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 31, 2024, 11:19:28 AM
Quote from: scout on October 31, 2024, 08:50:10 AMThe recency bias of the railway cup has done Morgan a massive favour
I was going to post after those games that it had probably cemented Niall Grimley's All Star! Yet here we are.

The All Stars are what they are, but the omission of Blaine Hughes & Aaron McKay are a bit of a joke imo. I would have had Grimley in ahead of Crealey.
That would give Armagh 9 All Stars?

Some of the Dublin teams who walked to All Irelands, hammering all in front of them didn't get that many.

People losing the run of themselves here.

For perspective, Armagh "drew" with Kerry in the semi final. Kerry didn't get any.

Wouldn't have expected Armagh to get more than 6 but could see a world where Blaine Hughes and Aaron McKay nudged ahead of a couple of the ones we did get.
That's just, like your opinion man.