Inter-Provincial Series showcasing new rules..

[Blowitupref]

From the Irish Examiner

The four points for a goal rule change is set to be scrapped as the Football Review Committee continue to prepare its draft report for Gaelic football's new rule enhancements.
Last weekend the FRC's seven-core enhancements were trialled in Croke Park for the interprovincial series. Players and managers provided extensive feedback and the Jim Gavin-chaired committee are set to make several changes.
The value of a goal will remain at three points and a 45-metre kick is now set to be worth one point, having between worth two last weekend. A time limit for free-takers is also set to be recommended.
Over the course of Friday and Saturday, there was some criticism of the scoring system. Armagh captain Aidan Forker told RTÉ it was an issue in the final.
"Rian was actually shouting at me, Aidan what's the score? It was definitely hard that last play, we felt we probably played it wrong in terms of dropping back and inviting the two-pointer, we weren't 100% sure of the total because it is so fast and scores go over so quickly. Trying to think clearly in that moment, it probably needs to be totals on the scoreboard."
As well as the proposed rule enhancements, the FRC has produced a series of recommendations separate from the motions that will go to Special Congress on November 30.
These include the enforcement of four steps, the establishment of a Game Intelligence Unit and an inter-change substitution format.

[Armagh18]

Is a goal from a ball kicked from outside Noah's Ark counted as 6 points?

That would keep the goalkeepers back would it?

[Sportacus]

I'm a bit baffled by some of the players lamenting a lack of contact. All players do nowadays is throw the ball sideways or back every time anyone comes near them.

[Blowitupref]

The latest from tonight.

The 'enhanced rules' for Gaelic football designed by the Football Review Committee will be forwarded to a Congress vote, with a few tweaks to the original recommendations.
A meeting of the GAA's Ard Chomhairle today voted unanimously to forward the new rules to a Special Congress at Croke Park on November 30, with a few amendments that had already been flagged by FRC members.
The 'four-point goal' has been abandoned, as expected, with the value of a goal set to remain at three points.
A successful 45 will not be rewarded with two points, unlike other kicks from outside the 40-metre arc. A converted 45 will register one point.

Rather than a double white and red flag, as seen during the trial games, a successful two-point kick will see umpires raise an orange flag.
The new black card offence of holding up a player will read: "To deliberately hold up an opposing player to be a black card offence and amended to read: To prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent."
And the penalty for a goalkeeper receiving a pass outside of the agreed rules will be a free kick from the position the goalkeeper received the pass. If the goalkeeper is inside the 13m line, the free will be from the 13m line opposite where the foul occurred.

A proposal to rescind the motion to postpone the January pre-season competitions for 2025 was defeated.

And it was also agreed to rename the Allianz Football League Division 1 trophy as Corn Mhíchíl Uí Mhuircheartaigh in honour of the late RTÉ Gaelic games broadcaster.

[onefineday]

The latest from tonight.

The 'enhanced rules' for Gaelic football designed by the Football Review Committee will be forwarded to a Congress vote, with a few tweaks to the original recommendations.
A meeting of the GAA's Ard Chomhairle today voted unanimously to forward the new rules to a Special Congress at Croke Park on November 30, with a few amendments that had already been flagged by FRC members.
The 'four-point goal' has been abandoned, as expected, with the value of a goal set to remain at three points.
A successful 45 will not be rewarded with two points, unlike other kicks from outside the 40-metre arc. A converted 45 will register one point.

Rather than a double white and red flag, as seen during the trial games, a successful two-point kick will see umpires raise an orange flag.
The new black card offence of holding up a player will read: "To deliberately hold up an opposing player to be a black card offence and amended to read: To prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent."
And the penalty for a goalkeeper receiving a pass outside of the agreed rules will be a free kick from the position the goalkeeper received the pass. If the goalkeeper is inside the 13m line, the free will be from the 13m line opposite where the foul occurred.

A proposal to rescind the motion to postpone the January pre-season competitions for 2025 was defeated.

And it was also agreed to rename the Allianz Football League Division 1 trophy as Corn Mhíchíl Uí Mhuircheartaigh in honour of the late RTÉ Gaelic games broadcaster.

I'm absolutely baffled by the thinking behind retaining the 2-point for kicks from behind the arc, whilst reducing the goal back to 4 points.

It makes no sense to me, surely it's completely disincentivised goals now? Why bother trying to work a goal when you can just use your overlap to have a go from 45m. Maybe it's to try and make football more like hurling. More and more long range shots and if we hit a certain percentage that makes more sense than trying to take risks and score goals. Maybe it's just me, but it's hard to beat the net bulging, beats the keeper coming up and tapping one over from 45m any day!!

[JoG2]

The latest from tonight.

The 'enhanced rules' for Gaelic football designed by the Football Review Committee will be forwarded to a Congress vote, with a few tweaks to the original recommendations.
A meeting of the GAA's Ard Chomhairle today voted unanimously to forward the new rules to a Special Congress at Croke Park on November 30, with a few amendments that had already been flagged by FRC members.
The 'four-point goal' has been abandoned, as expected, with the value of a goal set to remain at three points.
A successful 45 will not be rewarded with two points, unlike other kicks from outside the 40-metre arc. A converted 45 will register one point.

Rather than a double white and red flag, as seen during the trial games, a successful two-point kick will see umpires raise an orange flag.
The new black card offence of holding up a player will read: "To deliberately hold up an opposing player to be a black card offence and amended to read: To prevent or restrict, or to attempt to prevent or restrict, an opponent from moving or from playing the ball, by holding up an opponent."
And the penalty for a goalkeeper receiving a pass outside of the agreed rules will be a free kick from the position the goalkeeper received the pass. If the goalkeeper is inside the 13m line, the free will be from the 13m line opposite where the foul occurred.

A proposal to rescind the motion to postpone the January pre-season competitions for 2025 was defeated.

And it was also agreed to rename the Allianz Football League Division 1 trophy as Corn Mhíchíl Uí Mhuircheartaigh in honour of the late RTÉ Gaelic games broadcaster.

I'm absolutely baffled by the thinking behind retaining the 2-point for kicks from behind the arc, whilst reducing the goal back to 4 points.

It makes no sense to me, surely it's completely disincentivised goals now? Why bother trying to work a goal when you can just use your overlap to have a go from 45m. Maybe it's to try and make football more like hurling. More and more long range shots and if we hit a certain percentage that makes more sense than trying to take risks and score goals. Maybe it's just me, but it's hard to beat the net bulging, beats the keeper coming up and tapping one over from 45m any day!!

Isn't it mad how the likes of Beggan, Morgan, Murphy tap a ball that distance...? mad Ted

[armaghniac]

I'm absolutely baffled by the thinking behind retaining the 2-point for kicks from behind the arc, whilst reducing the goal back to 4 points.

I think there was some concern over teams getting hammerings. But by reducing the goal back to 3 in a 4 goal game, the other team can still make it up with 2 two pointers I doubt if it will greatly reduce the margins in the Leinster championship. That said 4 points for a goal might be harsh for some penalty scenarios.

This proposed system risks the ball going around the arc until it reaches the "kicker" who knocks it over. 

[Rossfan]

Logic gone out the window!!
2 kicks from 41 metres with a big wind worth more than a goal.
A free from 41 metres worth 2 points while a 45 (might be 50m or more) worth 1.

[onefineday]

Logic gone out the window!!
2 kicks from 41 metres with a big wind worth more than a goal.
A free from 41 metres worth 2 points while a 45 (might be 50m or more) worth 1.

It was a surprise to me alright that any deadball kick from beyond the arc was worth 2 points - can't see how that ties in with the objectives. I could just about live with this applying for in-play situations, but there's no doubt there'd be playing around the arc until the shooter was found - this happened in the trial last week.

For deadball kicks it is genuinely pretty straightforward for keepers to knock over a few from this distance, especially with a wind - but it's not something that is particularly interesting - maybe the odd really long one from beggan can be spectacular!

Reducing the goal to 3 also plays into thoughts on bringing your keeper up to be the extra man in attacking situations - the maths has now changed dramatically, the potential punishment for being caught out is reduced with the gain for working a 2-pointer now relatively enhanced.

I get the thinking that the odd game would have had a greater margin of victory, but games tend to see 5/6 goals absolute max, so that's 5/6 points extra, when there's already 20 odd in it, does that make much difference and it's likely some of those will be replaced by 2-pointers anyway. 

Fitzmaurice and Horan both contribute to the examiner football podcasts, so it'll be interesting to hear their rationale - I just hope this can be tweaked before serious football starts next season and our entire championship isn't ruined.

[JoG2]

Logic gone out the window!!
2 kicks from 41 metres with a big wind worth more than a goal.
A free from 41 metres worth 2 points while a 45 (might be 50m or more) worth 1.

It was a surprise to me alright that any deadball kick from beyond the arc was worth 2 points - can't see how that ties in with the objectives. I could just about live with this applying for in-play situations, but there's no doubt there'd be playing around the arc until the shooter was found - this happened in the trial last week.

For deadball kicks it is genuinely pretty straightforward for keepers to knock over a few from this distance, especially with a wind - but it's not something that is particularly interesting - maybe the odd really long one from beggan can be spectacular!

Reducing the goal to 3 also plays into thoughts on bringing your keeper up to be the extra man in attacking situations - the maths has now changed dramatically, the potential punishment for being caught out is reduced with the gain for working a 2-pointer now relatively enhanced.

I get the thinking that the odd game would have had a greater margin of victory, but games tend to see 5/6 goals absolute max, so that's 5/6 points extra, when there's already 20 odd in it, does that make much difference and it's likely some of those will be replaced by 2-pointers anyway. 

Fitzmaurice and Horan both contribute to the examiner football podcasts, so it'll be interesting to hear their rationale - I just hope this can be tweaked before serious football starts next season and our entire championship isn't ruined.

Ruined I tell thee!

[seafoid]

Logic gone out the window!!
2 kicks from 41 with a big wind worth more than a goal.
A free from 41 metres worth 2 points while a 45 (might be 50m or more) worth 1.

A 45 and a free are different. A 45 is for the last touch of the ball before it goes over the end line. There is no foul.
Players will figure out not to foul near the arc.   

[Smokin Joe]

The reason for the free kick beyond the arc worth 2 points is that the FRC didn't want teams fouling the good 2 point shooters (think Rian O'Neill / Niall Morgan) so that they would concede a free kick that would be worth 1 point instead of the decent chance of conceding 2 points.
Not saying I agree with it, but that's the logic as to why the free kicks beyond the arc are worth 2 points.

[Wildweasel74]

It should only be a 2pter if it's from play. What would Maurice Fitzgerald score these day with this rule. as he could score consistently from long distance frees.

[Armagh18]

The reason for the free kick beyond the arc worth 2 points is that the FRC didn't want teams fouling the good 2 point shooters (think Rian O'Neill / Niall Morgan) so that they would concede a free kick that would be worth 1 point instead of the decent chance of conceding 2 points.
Not saying I agree with it, but that's the logic as to why the free kicks beyond the arc are worth 2 points.

Yeah surely as a defender you're going to foul the like of lads straight away and concede a 1 pointer rather than 2. Think the 45 being only 1 point makes sense.

[onefineday]

It should only be a 2pter if it's from play. What would Maurice Fitzgerald score these day with this rule. as he could score consistently from long distance frees.

Bryan Sheehan would be the MVP, but as I say, it's also pretty easy meat for a load of keepers out there.