Ulster's McKenna Cup

Started by Orior, September 08, 2024, 03:48:30 PM

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AustinPowers

Quote from: armaghniac on October 26, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tiempo on October 26, 2024, 09:48:48 PMJarly trying to be everything to all people, a needless fail and sizable loss of revenue in Ulster

I imagine that Armagh would get a decent crowd anyway.
The Connacht council too have cut back owing to the loss of revenue.

It does not seem a well thought out decision, was there a 60% majority to abolish these in the first place?

Hmm ...good question

Cunny Funt

#76
Quote from: armaghniac on October 26, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tiempo on October 26, 2024, 09:48:48 PMJarly trying to be everything to all people, a needless fail and sizable loss of revenue in Ulster

I imagine that Armagh would get a decent crowd anyway.
The Connacht council too have cut back owing to the loss of revenue.

It does not seem a well thought out decision, was there a 60% majority to abolish these in the first place?

They had a bigger loss of revenue by moving FBD matches into the dome which can only hold 1500-2000. Last Mayo v Galway FBD games played outdoors had over 7000 in attendance.

Delgany 2nds

Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 26, 2024, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 26, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tiempo on October 26, 2024, 09:48:48 PMJarly trying to be everything to all people, a needless fail and sizable loss of revenue in Ulster

I imagine that Armagh would get a decent crowd anyway.
The Connacht council too have cut back owing to the loss of revenue.

It does not seem a well thought out decision, was there a 60% majority to abolish these in the first place?

They had a bigger loss of revenue by moving FBD matches into the dome which can only hold 1500-2000. Last Mayo v Galway FBD games played outdoors had over 7000 in attendance.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 26, 2024, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 26, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tiempo on October 26, 2024, 09:48:48 PMJarly trying to be everything to all people, a needless fail and sizable loss of revenue in Ulster

I imagine that Armagh would get a decent crowd anyway.
The Connacht council too have cut back owing to the loss of revenue.

It does not seem a well thought out decision, was there a 60% majority to abolish these in the first place?

They had a bigger loss of revenue by moving FBD matches into the dome which can only hold 1500-2000. Last Mayo v Galway FBD games played outdoors had over 7000 in attendance.

The loss of the Mc Kenna will gave a big impact on the grants available to clubs for grounds improvements etc.

thewobbler

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Quote from: Delgany 2nds on October 26, 2024, 11:02:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 26, 2024, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 26, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tiempo on October 26, 2024, 09:48:48 PMJarly trying to be everything to all people, a needless fail and sizable loss of revenue in Ulster

I imagine that Armagh would get a decent crowd anyway.
The Connacht council too have cut back owing to the loss of revenue.

It does not seem a well thought out decision, was there a 60% majority to abolish these in the first place?

They had a bigger loss of revenue by moving FBD matches into the dome which can only hold 1500-2000. Last Mayo v Galway FBD games played outdoors had over 7000 in attendance.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 26, 2024, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 26, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tiempo on October 26, 2024, 09:48:48 PMJarly trying to be everything to all people, a needless fail and sizable loss of revenue in Ulster

I imagine that Armagh would get a decent crowd anyway.
The Connacht council too have cut back owing to the loss of revenue.

It does not seem a well thought out decision, was there a 60% majority to abolish these in the first place?

They had a bigger loss of revenue by moving FBD matches into the dome which can only hold 1500-2000. Last Mayo v Galway FBD games played outdoors had over 7000 in attendance.

The loss of the Mc Kenna will gave a big impact on the grants available to clubs for grounds improvements etc.

I'm not sure how the clubs will be able to provide facilities without that £50 handshake from Ulster.

Note, not £50k. £50. My figure might not be exact but nor is it far away.


DuffleKing


Correct. Not exactly sure how the Ulster Council budget gets spent in any way that benefits either the constituent clubs or counties.

armaghniac

Quote from: DuffleKing on October 27, 2024, 03:10:15 PMCorrect. Not exactly sure how the Ulster Council budget gets spent in any way that benefits either the constituent clubs or counties.

Either way, that budget will now be tens of thousands less than before.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Delgany 2nds

Quote from: DuffleKing on October 27, 2024, 03:10:15 PMCorrect. Not exactly sure how the Ulster Council budget gets spent in any way that benefits either the constituent clubs or counties.

Ulster GAA provide infrastructure grants from £5- £10k to clubs for a range of projects. Not £50 and Not 100 000s either but not to be sniffed at

DuffleKing


Must all be going to clubs I don't know.

oakleafgael

https://ulster.gaa.ie/2024/02/record-number-of-ulster-gaa-clubs-awarded-development-funding/

Not huge money but nevertheless not buttons either.
Quote from: thewobbler on October 26, 2024, 11:29:34 PM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on October 26, 2024, 11:02:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 26, 2024, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 26, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tiempo on October 26, 2024, 09:48:48 PMJarly trying to be everything to all people, a needless fail and sizable loss of revenue in Ulster

I imagine that Armagh would get a decent crowd anyway.
The Connacht council too have cut back owing to the loss of revenue.

It does not seem a well thought out decision, was there a 60% majority to abolish these in the first place?

They had a bigger loss of revenue by moving FBD matches into the dome which can only hold 1500-2000. Last Mayo v Galway FBD games played outdoors had over 7000 in attendance.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 26, 2024, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 26, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: tiempo on October 26, 2024, 09:48:48 PMJarly trying to be everything to all people, a needless fail and sizable loss of revenue in Ulster

I imagine that Armagh would get a decent crowd anyway.
The Connacht council too have cut back owing to the loss of revenue.

It does not seem a well thought out decision, was there a 60% majority to abolish these in the first place?

They had a bigger loss of revenue by moving FBD matches into the dome which can only hold 1500-2000. Last Mayo v Galway FBD games played outdoors had over 7000 in attendance.

The loss of the Mc Kenna will gave a big impact on the grants available to clubs for grounds improvements etc.

I'm not sure how the clubs will be able to provide facilities without that £50 handshake from Ulster.

Note, not £50k. £50. My figure might not be exact but nor is it far away.



DuffleKing


That is Croke Park money allocated by the Ulster Council - have another go.

oakleafgael

Quote from: DuffleKing on October 27, 2024, 08:45:30 PMThat is Croke Park money allocated by the Ulster Council - have another go.

I made no mention of where the funding came from but rather that it wasn't the £50 handshake alluded to. These are the only infrastructure grants awarded by the Ulster Council.

As you said yourself - have another go.

thewobbler

Apologies by £50 was flippant.

It turns out the average grant is €3,891 or about £3,300.

Call me flippant again, I don't mind. Buy when clubs are budgeting for their 6 and 7 figure developments, that £3,300 doesn't really play a role in the decision making process.

Of course free money is nice. But the emotive suggestion previous was that no McKenna Cup will harm club's development plans. It won't. It won't even register.

PMG1

Quote from: thewobbler on October 28, 2024, 10:56:36 AMApologies by £50 was flippant.

It turns out the average grant is €3,891 or about £3,300.

Call me flippant again, I don't mind. Buy when clubs are budgeting for their 6 and 7 figure developments, that £3,300 doesn't really play a role in the decision making process.

Of course free money is nice. But the emotive suggestion previous was that no McKenna Cup will harm club's development plans. It won't. It won't even register.

a club doing a large development will end up getting c€20-25k from Ulster Council

sam03/05

It's madness to scrap the likes of McKenna Cup only to all inter county challenge games at the same time, how does that protect player?
GPA badly led

DuffleKing

Quote from: oakleafgael on October 28, 2024, 09:32:21 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 27, 2024, 08:45:30 PMThat is Croke Park money allocated by the Ulster Council - have another go.

I made no mention of where the funding came from but rather that it wasn't the £50 handshake alluded to. These are the only infrastructure grants awarded by the Ulster Council.

As you said yourself - have another go.

This money is not contingent upon McKenna Cup gate money - it's centrally provided funding.