Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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whitey

So we have unanimous condemnation of Israel's response to the October 7th attack, but not one person is willing to share what they think an appropriate response would have been.

Secondly, not one person (well maybe one) has been able to articulate what Hamas hoped to achieve by their actions on October 7th.

And BTW-saying that this "all began long before October 7th" is another way of saying the Israelis had it coming to them and deserve everything they got



seafoid

Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 07:05:46 PMSo we have unanimous condemnation of Israel's response to the October 7th attack, but not one person is willing to share what they think an appropriate response would have been.

Secondly, not one person (well maybe one) has been able to articulate what Hamas hoped to achieve by their actions on October 7th.

And BTW-saying that this "all began long before October 7th" is another way of saying the Israelis had it coming to them and deserve everything they got



Israel should have arrested the Hamas leadership and given them over to the justice system. Israel would still be well regarded internationally.  What Israel did was a disaster for Israel and the image of Israel. The Lancet estimated that up to 180,000 people were killed by Israel.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 07:05:46 PMSo we have unanimous condemnation of Israel's response to the October 7th attack, but not one person is willing to share what they think an appropriate response would have been.

Secondly, not one person (well maybe one) has been able to articulate what Hamas hoped to achieve by their actions on October 7th.

And BTW-saying that this "all began long before October 7th" is another way of saying the Israelis had it coming to them and deserve everything they got




Dead on soupy, whatever ya think
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.


seafoid

Quote from: imtommygunn on October 08, 2024, 01:57:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2024, 01:38:54 PMAnd Hamas fired off some from Gaza last week.

45,000 dead and probably twice that maimed and still War criminal Netanyahu and his arms and money suppliers haven't "won" their "war".
Why are these cnuts allowed to invade and bomb, murder etc a Sovereign State and the World looks the other way?

It is very hard to fathom why. If you look in Lebanon they are doing the same too.

Something will eventually be a step too far but the question is what and when. It needs to be son.
The Zionist lobby is like the landlords were in ireland.  A tiny but very powerful minority. The small farmers united to get rid of the landlords. The US needs someone like Davitt.

Look-Up!

Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 07:05:46 PMSo we have unanimous condemnation of Israel's response to the October 7th attack, but not one person is willing to share what they think an appropriate response would have been.

Secondly, not one person (well maybe one) has been able to articulate what Hamas hoped to achieve by their actions on October 7th.

And BTW-saying that this "all began long before October 7th" is another way of saying the Israelis had it coming to them and deserve everything they got



:o  :o George Bush might agree with you but the world is a little more complicated than that. You've gone full native over there.

AustinPowers

Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 07:05:46 PMSo we have unanimous condemnation of Israel's response to the October 7th attack, but not one person is willing to share what they think an appropriate response would have been.

Secondly, not one person (well maybe one) has been able to articulate what Hamas hoped to achieve by their actions on October 7th.

And BTW-saying that this "all began long before October 7th" is another way of saying the Israelis had it coming to them and deserve everything they got




Man leaves his house every  morning. As he walks past his neighbour's house  , their dog is sat minding his own business,  so he  sticks his boot in the dog for no reason. He does this  for years until one day the  dog sees him coming and  runs up and sinks his teeth into  him, drawing  blood.

Man takes his gun and  shoots the dog. Then  shoots every other dog in  the vicinity.

What did the  neighbour's dog hope to  achieve by biting the man?  Him and  all his dog buddies are  now dead. What a silly dog.

Man's neighbours  shake  his hand for  blowing the heads off all those troublesome  dogs.

Anyway, back to  that cake making show....

whitey

Quote from: AustinPowers on October 08, 2024, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 07:05:46 PMSo we have unanimous condemnation of Israel's response to the October 7th attack, but not one person is willing to share what they think an appropriate response would have been.

Secondly, not one person (well maybe one) has been able to articulate what Hamas hoped to achieve by their actions on October 7th.

And BTW-saying that this "all began long before October 7th" is another way of saying the Israelis had it coming to them and deserve everything they got




Man leaves his house every  morning. As he walks past his neighbour's house  , their dog is sat minding his own business,  so he  sticks his boot in the dog for no reason. He does this  for years until one day the  dog sees him coming and  runs up and sinks his teeth into  him, drawing  blood.

Man takes his gun and  shoots the dog. Then  shoots every other dog in  the vicinity.

What did the  neighbour's dog hope to  achieve by biting the man?  Him and  all his dog buddies are  now dead. What a silly dog.

Man's neighbours  shake  his hand for  blowing the heads off all those troublesome  dogs.

Anyway, back to  that cake making show....

So Hamas were justified in their actions on October 7th-fair enough if that's what your opinion is.


So following your logic, if dissident Republicans forcibly seized power from Sinn Fein and reignited the conflict they'd be perfectly within their rights to do so and you'd support them?

Interesting

Truthsayer

Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 08, 2024, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 07:05:46 PMSo we have unanimous condemnation of Israel's response to the October 7th attack, but not one person is willing to share what they think an appropriate response would have been.

Secondly, not one person (well maybe one) has been able to articulate what Hamas hoped to achieve by their actions on October 7th.

And BTW-saying that this "all began long before October 7th" is another way of saying the Israelis had it coming to them and deserve everything they got




Man leaves his house every  morning. As he walks past his neighbour's house  , their dog is sat minding his own business,  so he  sticks his boot in the dog for no reason. He does this  for years until one day the  dog sees him coming and  runs up and sinks his teeth into  him, drawing  blood.

Man takes his gun and  shoots the dog. Then  shoots every other dog in  the vicinity.

What did the  neighbour's dog hope to  achieve by biting the man?  Him and  all his dog buddies are  now dead. What a silly dog.

Man's neighbours  shake  his hand for  blowing the heads off all those troublesome  dogs.

Anyway, back to  that cake making show....

So Hamas were justified in their actions on October 7th-fair enough if that's what your opinion is.


So following your logic, if dissident Republicans forcibly seized power from Sinn Fein and reignited the conflict they'd be perfectly within their rights to do so and you'd support them?

Interesting

Far right white man from the Willie McCrea school of genocide ... in such a scenario carpet bomb Nationalist areas killing as many children, women and civilian men as possible.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/state-papers-dup-mp-william-mccrea-wanted-air-strikes-launched-on-the-republic-in-the-1980s/30867020.html

seafoid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/08/videos-how-israel-flattened-lebanese-village/
A village in southern Lebanon has been all but levelled as Israel moves tanks across the border amid warnings of a repeat of Gaza.

Drone footage published online, verified by The Telegraph, shows destruction in Yaroun, approximately one mile from the Israeli border.

The video shows buildings reduced to rubble, as smoke rises over the top. Tanks and armoured vehicles can be assembled in the town's east.

whitey

Quote from: seafoid on October 08, 2024, 09:39:01 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/08/videos-how-israel-flattened-lebanese-village/
A village in southern Lebanon has been all but levelled as Israel moves tanks across the border amid warnings of a repeat of Gaza.

Drone footage published online, verified by The Telegraph, shows destruction in Yaroun, approximately one mile from the Israeli border.

The video shows buildings reduced to rubble, as smoke rises over the top. Tanks and armoured vehicles can be assembled in the town's east.


So I assume Hezbollah in Lebanon don't live in caves and have modern media such as television and the internet

So based on Israel's response to October 7th in Gaza, what did Hezbollah think the Israeli reaction would be to them launching an attack on the Northern Border?

What we're they hoping to accomplish by sending hundreds of missiles into Israel?

None of these things happen in a vacuum

There's cause an effect

There are ranges of outcomes and likelihood of outcomes to consider before you attack someone

Look-Up!

Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 08, 2024, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 07:05:46 PMSo we have unanimous condemnation of Israel's response to the October 7th attack, but not one person is willing to share what they think an appropriate response would have been.

Secondly, not one person (well maybe one) has been able to articulate what Hamas hoped to achieve by their actions on October 7th.

And BTW-saying that this "all began long before October 7th" is another way of saying the Israelis had it coming to them and deserve everything they got




Man leaves his house every  morning. As he walks past his neighbour's house  , their dog is sat minding his own business,  so he  sticks his boot in the dog for no reason. He does this  for years until one day the  dog sees him coming and  runs up and sinks his teeth into  him, drawing  blood.

Man takes his gun and  shoots the dog. Then  shoots every other dog in  the vicinity.

What did the  neighbour's dog hope to  achieve by biting the man?  Him and  all his dog buddies are  now dead. What a silly dog.

Man's neighbours  shake  his hand for  blowing the heads off all those troublesome  dogs.

Anyway, back to  that cake making show....

So Hamas were justified in their actions on October 7th-fair enough if that's what your opinion is.


So following your logic, if dissident Republicans forcibly seized power from Sinn Fein and reignited the conflict they'd be perfectly within their rights to do so and you'd support them?

Interesting
Don't know where you're getting these crazy notions from. There was worldwide condemnation of Hamas and sympathy for Israel after Oct 7th. But that is not to be confused for carte blanche to what has happened since.
You have some seriously warped logic. Do you also wonder what those Jews hoped to achieve with the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising? That would be some mental gymnastics, much like your ridiculous Sinn Fein analogy. 

Truthsayer

Don't know why that apologist for genocide is allowed to post on this board. Obnoxious.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Look-Up! on October 08, 2024, 10:25:25 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 08, 2024, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 07:05:46 PMSo we have unanimous condemnation of Israel's response to the October 7th attack, but not one person is willing to share what they think an appropriate response would have been.

Secondly, not one person (well maybe one) has been able to articulate what Hamas hoped to achieve by their actions on October 7th.

And BTW-saying that this "all began long before October 7th" is another way of saying the Israelis had it coming to them and deserve everything they got




Man leaves his house every  morning. As he walks past his neighbour's house  , their dog is sat minding his own business,  so he  sticks his boot in the dog for no reason. He does this  for years until one day the  dog sees him coming and  runs up and sinks his teeth into  him, drawing  blood.

Man takes his gun and  shoots the dog. Then  shoots every other dog in  the vicinity.

What did the  neighbour's dog hope to  achieve by biting the man?  Him and  all his dog buddies are  now dead. What a silly dog.

Man's neighbours  shake  his hand for  blowing the heads off all those troublesome  dogs.

Anyway, back to  that cake making show....

So Hamas were justified in their actions on October 7th-fair enough if that's what your opinion is.


So following your logic, if dissident Republicans forcibly seized power from Sinn Fein and reignited the conflict they'd be perfectly within their rights to do so and you'd support them?

Interesting
Don't know where you're getting these crazy notions from. There was worldwide condemnation of Hamas and sympathy for Israel after Oct 7th. But that is not to be confused for carte blanche to what has happened since.
You have some seriously warped logic. Do you also wonder what those Jews hoped to achieve with the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising? That would be some mental gymnastics, much like your ridiculous Sinn Fein analogy.
Don't get dragged into it. Whitey wants to keep the focus solely on 7th Oct. Despite the fact if he scrolled back in this thread he'll see plenty of condemnation for the 7th Oct attacks. He doesn't want the discussion to move on from that to what has happened since and what is happening now as it doesn't fit with his yank views.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

whitey

None of these events occur in a vacuum

What the Hamas apologists on here fail to acknowledge is that there were real prospects for a lasting peace in 2005/2006

Hamas violently suppressed and actually murdered the more moderate Fatah

Fast forward to the Trump Presidency and once again there was serious progress being made in Arab/Israeli relations with the signing of the Abraham Accords

It was possible that Saudi Arabia was going to sign up

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R48162#:~:text=Press%20reports%20since%20early%202023,U.S.%20strategic%20competitors%2C%20or%20both.

That would have been a game changer

With things looking like they were  heading in the right direction why did Hamas not let things play out?

They crossed a line that was only going to lead to one thing-an Israeli ground invasion and the inevitable carnage ghat followed

Shame on them and shame on all you for covering for them