The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

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Quote from: J70 on October 04, 2024, 12:16:25 PMRepublican "mega donor".

Have the NY Post been headlining the literally dozens and dozens of former Trump cabinet members and military leaders who have refused to support him and stated they'll vote for Harris?

Don't know - but they are not mainstream so I wouldn't expect them to

Look at the context of my comment. Someone expressed shock that it was even close, and I laid out possibly one of the reasons why. People who fvckin hate Trump are going to vote for him because the Democrats are that bad

This thing shouldn't even be close and I hate to say the momentum may have shifted back to Trump

You can agree or disagree.

 I am incredibly disappointed at Harris playing "run down the clock" and hiding from any serious questioning

I was going to vote for her, but I think I'll now vote for Jill Stein

trueblue1234

Quote from: J70 on October 04, 2024, 12:38:53 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on October 04, 2024, 09:13:50 AMTrump is a c**t and would be a disaster. But f**k I'd find it hard to cheer on a dem president at the minute too. It's a settling for the least worst, which is a disgrace.

That's usually the case to some degree with US presidents.

That said, I'd be resting a lot easier if Harris was up against a "normal" GOP politician like Haley or Youngkin or Christie instead of a megalomaniacal wannabe dictator without a shred of decency or humanity, but with four years of experience behind him and not reliant on the "guardrail" normal GOP appointees who thwarted, somewhat, his most outrageous tendencies last time out. This time, he'll be firing thousands of career professional civil servants and resuming the spoils system of the nineteenth century, placing hacks and Trump loyalists all through the government to do his bidding. And if he wins, it will probably come with a GOP senate, so they'll usher these changes and whatever other loyal-to-Trump-first clowns he wants to appoint right through. There'll be no one quietly applying the brakes like so often apparently happened last time out when some crazy notion overtook him.

And that before you even get into what he's actually proposing to do. If someone like me is nervous, what are people in places like Ukraine or migrants in the US feeling?

Ah I know. That's my point. It would be more a celebration that Trump didn't get in than celebrating the Dems getting in. (Celebrating not the right word as I'm not that heavily invested but you get the picture).
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

MasterShake

Quote from: whitey on October 04, 2024, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 04, 2024, 09:00:05 AMIt's not about what they deserve it's what the majority will want.

We mostly hear Dems on Irish media and you hear Donald Trump does not represent the USA. Not what it's about, etc. But he is!

Like. Every country has issues but the fact that it's too close to call with all the stuff he has said and done shows that the voters don't care.



I don't think people in Ireland realize just how bad a job Biden and Harris have done

Someone who testified AGAINST Trump during the 2019 impeachment and who came out against him after January 6th said the following just this week

"Melber pulled up a clip of Sondlad saying he was done supporting Trump following the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and asked him if he still felt the same way.

"No, I don't stand by it and I'll tell you why," he said while sitting beside other former Trump administration officials Peter Navarro and Sarah Matthews.

"I've now lived four years under the Biden-Harris policies and I have to say that those policies are not only becoming an existential threat to our country's way of life, but to our allies as well," he continued"

https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/us-news/msnbc-host-stunned-after-key-donald-trump-impeachment-witness-gordon-sondland-backs-ex-president/



While this should be front page news, so far it's just the Daily Mail and NY Post reporting  on it


Sondland, the 'Republican mega donor', doesn't appear to state what Biden/Harris policies have made him take the position he's taking. Couldn't possibly be that he wants back in on the grift and in the good graces of Donnie/Reps, could it? I mean, US employers added 254,000 jobs in September (more robust than expected), and unemployment is down at 4.1%. So what policies does he have a problem with?
"Calmer than you are".

whitey

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Quote from: MasterShake on October 04, 2024, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 04, 2024, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 04, 2024, 09:00:05 AMIt's not about what they deserve it's what the majority will want.

We mostly hear Dems on Irish media and you hear Donald Trump does not represent the USA. Not what it's about, etc. But he is!

Like. Every country has issues but the fact that it's too close to call with all the stuff he has said and done shows that the voters don't care.



I don't think people in Ireland realize just how bad a job Biden and Harris have done

Someone who testified AGAINST Trump during the 2019 impeachment and who came out against him after January 6th said the following just this week

"Melber pulled up a clip of Sondlad saying he was done supporting Trump following the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and asked him if he still felt the same way.

"No, I don't stand by it and I'll tell you why," he said while sitting beside other former Trump administration officials Peter Navarro and Sarah Matthews.

"I've now lived four years under the Biden-Harris policies and I have to say that those policies are not only becoming an existential threat to our country's way of life, but to our allies as well," he continued"

https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/us-news/msnbc-host-stunned-after-key-donald-trump-impeachment-witness-gordon-sondland-backs-ex-president/



While this should be front page news, so far it's just the Daily Mail and NY Post reporting  on it


Sondland, the 'Republican mega donor', doesn't appear to state what Biden/Harris policies have made him take the position he's taking. Couldn't possibly be that he wants back in on the grift and in the good graces of Donnie/Reps, could it? I mean, US employers added 254,000 jobs in September (more robust than expected), and unemployment is down at 4.1%. So what policies does he have a problem with?


https://x.com/thebeatwithari/status/1841901196891615629?s=46&t=lH_6NhrWXceXekvYr1XRpg

Member wouldn't let him explain his answer

But - hey, it's just one persons opinion, but he's right on the money as far as I'm concerned.

One example from just yesterday; They "raided" FEMA To pay for migrants (that they allowed illegally enter the country) and now there's no money left for hurricane relief

J70

They "raided" FEMA or it was another FENA program? What proportion of the overall FEMA budget?

J70

Quote from: whitey on October 04, 2024, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 04, 2024, 12:16:25 PMRepublican "mega donor".

Have the NY Post been headlining the literally dozens and dozens of former Trump cabinet members and military leaders who have refused to support him and stated they'll vote for Harris?

Don't know - but they are not mainstream so I wouldn't expect them to

Look at the context of my comment. Someone expressed shock that it was even close, and I laid out possibly one of the reasons why. People who fvckin hate Trump are going to vote for him because the Democrats are that bad

This thing shouldn't even be close and I hate to say the momentum may have shifted back to Trump

You can agree or disagree.

 I am incredibly disappointed at Harris playing "run down the clock" and hiding from any serious questioning

I was going to vote for her, but I think I'll now vote for Jill Stein

The Post is a pretty major paper, leading Murdoch tabloid and in the top ten for print and online circulation in the US.

There isn't much word about all the former Trump people who have come out against him either as it's old news given the sheer numbers.

And yeah, it's a 50-50 election. That's what I'm nervous as f**k about it!

whitey

Quote from: J70 on October 04, 2024, 02:59:17 PMThey "raided" FEMA or it was another FENA program? What proportion of the overall FEMA budget?

Apologies-I meant to " " the word raided

Whether it's entirely 100% true is questionable-but it's the perception that can swing people

Someone brought it up on Smerconish this morning and he said he would probably do a piece on it next week

seafoid

Quote from: J70 on October 04, 2024, 03:02:47 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 04, 2024, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 04, 2024, 12:16:25 PMRepublican "mega donor".

Have the NY Post been headlining the literally dozens and dozens of former Trump cabinet members and military leaders who have refused to support him and stated they'll vote for Harris?

Don't know - but they are not mainstream so I wouldn't expect them to

Look at the context of my comment. Someone expressed shock that it was even close, and I laid out possibly one of the reasons why. People who fvckin hate Trump are going to vote for him because the Democrats are that bad

This thing shouldn't even be close and I hate to say the momentum may have shifted back to Trump

You can agree or disagree.

 I am incredibly disappointed at Harris playing "run down the clock" and hiding from any serious questioning

I was going to vote for her, but I think I'll now vote for Jill Stein

The Post is a pretty major paper, leading Murdoch tabloid and in the top ten for print and online circulation in the US.

There isn't much word about all the former Trump people who have come out against him either as it's old news given the sheer numbers.

And yeah, it's a 50-50 election. That's what I'm nervous as f**k about it!
It
 is too complex for standard polling.

Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 04, 2024, 09:00:05 AMIt's not about what they deserve it's what the majority will want.





Nope.  Trump has very little chance of an actual majority, but could still become President (as was the case last time he won).

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/ffb5b03b-34ac-4cd7-a924-535168bebb74

 Milton moved from being declared a hurricane on Sunday afternoon to a category five storm by Monday morning. Its wind speed accelerated faster than all but two previously recorded storms, increasing by more than 90 miles per hour in less than 24 hours, the National Hurricane Center said. "I am stunned by how quickly this storm has intensified," said Rachel Cleetus, policy director for climate and energy at the Union of Concerned Scientists.

The Donald Trump-JD Vance Republican presidential campaign postponed an event for Latino voters to be held in Miami on Tuesday because of the storm. "Our thoughts and prayers are with those in the path of Hurricane Milton," the campaign said in a statement.

johnnycool

Quote from: whitey on October 04, 2024, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: MasterShake on October 04, 2024, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 04, 2024, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 04, 2024, 09:00:05 AMIt's not about what they deserve it's what the majority will want.

We mostly hear Dems on Irish media and you hear Donald Trump does not represent the USA. Not what it's about, etc. But he is!

Like. Every country has issues but the fact that it's too close to call with all the stuff he has said and done shows that the voters don't care.



I don't think people in Ireland realize just how bad a job Biden and Harris have done

Someone who testified AGAINST Trump during the 2019 impeachment and who came out against him after January 6th said the following just this week

"Melber pulled up a clip of Sondlad saying he was done supporting Trump following the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and asked him if he still felt the same way.

"No, I don't stand by it and I'll tell you why," he said while sitting beside other former Trump administration officials Peter Navarro and Sarah Matthews.

"I've now lived four years under the Biden-Harris policies and I have to say that those policies are not only becoming an existential threat to our country's way of life, but to our allies as well," he continued"

https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/us-news/msnbc-host-stunned-after-key-donald-trump-impeachment-witness-gordon-sondland-backs-ex-president/



While this should be front page news, so far it's just the Daily Mail and NY Post reporting  on it


Sondland, the 'Republican mega donor', doesn't appear to state what Biden/Harris policies have made him take the position he's taking. Couldn't possibly be that he wants back in on the grift and in the good graces of Donnie/Reps, could it? I mean, US employers added 254,000 jobs in September (more robust than expected), and unemployment is down at 4.1%. So what policies does he have a problem with?


https://x.com/thebeatwithari/status/1841901196891615629?s=46&t=lH_6NhrWXceXekvYr1XRpg

Member wouldn't let him explain his answer

But - hey, it's just one persons opinion, but he's right on the money as far as I'm concerned.

One example from just yesterday; They "raided" FEMA To pay for migrants (that they allowed illegally enter the country) and now there's no money left for hurricane relief

$19B greenbacks in the last year for Israel though and not a dickie bird..

Look over there at those immigrants.


whitey

Saw Kamala on 60 Minutes

She's giving Sarah Palin a run for her money

whitey

Quote from: johnnycool on October 08, 2024, 11:29:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on October 04, 2024, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: MasterShake on October 04, 2024, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 04, 2024, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 04, 2024, 09:00:05 AMIt's not about what they deserve it's what the majority will want.

We mostly hear Dems on Irish media and you hear Donald Trump does not represent the USA. Not what it's about, etc. But he is!

Like. Every country has issues but the fact that it's too close to call with all the stuff he has said and done shows that the voters don't care.



I don't think people in Ireland realize just how bad a job Biden and Harris have done

Someone who testified AGAINST Trump during the 2019 impeachment and who came out against him after January 6th said the following just this week

"Melber pulled up a clip of Sondlad saying he was done supporting Trump following the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and asked him if he still felt the same way.

"No, I don't stand by it and I'll tell you why," he said while sitting beside other former Trump administration officials Peter Navarro and Sarah Matthews.

"I've now lived four years under the Biden-Harris policies and I have to say that those policies are not only becoming an existential threat to our country's way of life, but to our allies as well," he continued"

https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/us-news/msnbc-host-stunned-after-key-donald-trump-impeachment-witness-gordon-sondland-backs-ex-president/



While this should be front page news, so far it's just the Daily Mail and NY Post reporting  on it


Sondland, the 'Republican mega donor', doesn't appear to state what Biden/Harris policies have made him take the position he's taking. Couldn't possibly be that he wants back in on the grift and in the good graces of Donnie/Reps, could it? I mean, US employers added 254,000 jobs in September (more robust than expected), and unemployment is down at 4.1%. So what policies does he have a problem with?


https://x.com/thebeatwithari/status/1841901196891615629?s=46&t=lH_6NhrWXceXekvYr1XRpg

Member wouldn't let him explain his answer

But - hey, it's just one persons opinion, but he's right on the money as far as I'm concerned.

One example from just yesterday; They "raided" FEMA To pay for migrants (that they allowed illegally enter the country) and now there's no money left for hurricane relief

$19B greenbacks in the last year for Israel though and not a dickie bird..

Look over there at those immigrants.



I see Leo Varadkar is saying Ireland took in too many migrants

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/leo-varadkar-says-immigration-to-ireland-grew-too-fast-as-labour-leader-labels-comments-new-low/a306203290.html

Is he now considered far right by your standards?

johnnycool

Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 08, 2024, 11:29:27 AM
Quote from: whitey on October 04, 2024, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: MasterShake on October 04, 2024, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 04, 2024, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 04, 2024, 09:00:05 AMIt's not about what they deserve it's what the majority will want.

We mostly hear Dems on Irish media and you hear Donald Trump does not represent the USA. Not what it's about, etc. But he is!

Like. Every country has issues but the fact that it's too close to call with all the stuff he has said and done shows that the voters don't care.



I don't think people in Ireland realize just how bad a job Biden and Harris have done

Someone who testified AGAINST Trump during the 2019 impeachment and who came out against him after January 6th said the following just this week

"Melber pulled up a clip of Sondlad saying he was done supporting Trump following the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and asked him if he still felt the same way.

"No, I don't stand by it and I'll tell you why," he said while sitting beside other former Trump administration officials Peter Navarro and Sarah Matthews.

"I've now lived four years under the Biden-Harris policies and I have to say that those policies are not only becoming an existential threat to our country's way of life, but to our allies as well," he continued"

https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/us-news/msnbc-host-stunned-after-key-donald-trump-impeachment-witness-gordon-sondland-backs-ex-president/



While this should be front page news, so far it's just the Daily Mail and NY Post reporting  on it


Sondland, the 'Republican mega donor', doesn't appear to state what Biden/Harris policies have made him take the position he's taking. Couldn't possibly be that he wants back in on the grift and in the good graces of Donnie/Reps, could it? I mean, US employers added 254,000 jobs in September (more robust than expected), and unemployment is down at 4.1%. So what policies does he have a problem with?


https://x.com/thebeatwithari/status/1841901196891615629?s=46&t=lH_6NhrWXceXekvYr1XRpg

Member wouldn't let him explain his answer

But - hey, it's just one persons opinion, but he's right on the money as far as I'm concerned.

One example from just yesterday; They "raided" FEMA To pay for migrants (that they allowed illegally enter the country) and now there's no money left for hurricane relief

$19B greenbacks in the last year for Israel though and not a dickie bird..

Look over there at those immigrants.



I see Leo Varadkar is saying Ireland took in too many migrants

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/leo-varadkar-says-immigration-to-ireland-grew-too-fast-as-labour-leader-labels-comments-new-low/a306203290.html

Is he now considered far right by your standards?

FG have always been to the right of Irish politics, Varadkar who I believe did a good job during BREXIT (along with Coveney) is just dog whistling as he is responsible for it in the first place.