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whitey

#1245
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 09:58:03 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 14, 2024, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.

Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?

Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??

I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.



So seeing as there are Irish born child abusers (which there has been) since the foundation of the state, we now need to let foreign born child abusers in to even things up


Makes perfect sense

Who's letting in child abusers?

We don't know who we're letting in-that's the problem

Some are convicted sex offenders

Hence the term unvetted

https://extra.ie/2024/05/09/news/irish-news/review-migrant-sex-offence


Milltown Row2

But while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.

So who is the beef with?

If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.

I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

From the Bunker

#1247
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.

So who is the beef with?

If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.

I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria

No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.


Rossfan

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 09:58:03 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 14, 2024, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 14, 2024, 12:09:24 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on August 14, 2024, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 14, 2024, 08:01:11 AM20 years ago their priests were raping children too. Mad.

Jaysus, don't go down that road. Ever hear of Rotherham?

Or Jimmy Saville, or Lord Mountbatten, or Enoch Powell??

I don't think paedophilia is restricted to one ethnic or social class.



So seeing as there are Irish born child abusers (which there has been) since the foundation of the state, we now need to let foreign born child abusers in to even things up


Makes perfect sense

Who's letting in child abusers?
It's just the racist Yank and his "all asylum seekers are criminals" mantra.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

whitey

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.

So who is the beef with?

If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.

I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria

Apologies in advance for scattered nature of response.  Need to meet someone for dinner at 6:30

(1) The governments enforcement of existing laws is lax to non existent as is its vetting

(2) The majority of applications for asylum are denied yet applicants seem to be able stay for years (at the expense of the taxpayer) and file nimerous appeals (also at the taxpayers expense)

(3) A tiny percentage of People ordered deported are actually deported (after exhausting all these frivolous legal appeals)

This is why (among other reasons) people are angry...but the open borders apologists start shouting racism in an effort to shut down dissent....and it seems to be working on here anyways

So what if the 12 million Sudanese decide to move to Ireland-how many should we accept?

Should we have a limit on the number of asylum seekers refugees we accept?

The fraudsters are making things very difficult for the genuine asylum seekers, yet in an effort to appear woke/liberal/progressive any and all criticism by many on the left is deemed racist - which is a bunch of baloney

One final note-a homeless Irish man in Tipperary who built a chalet in land he owns is being threatened with jail because he has no planning permission for the structure


Yet in the same county, a hotel can be converted into a migrant center without any planning permission, and 250 migrants can be landed into a village of 200 people without consultation or provision of additional resources. 

Do you think people have a right to be angry about that




Milltown Row2

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.

So who is the beef with?

If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.

I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria

No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.



I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive

Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Rossfan

Or even worse...they might be Muslims and they're shocking awful horrible bad altogether.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.

So who is the beef with?

If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.

I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria

No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.



I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive

Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!

The fools who are involved in Hounding out people won't happen if you integrate people into a community rather than franchising it out to the Profit making private sector to provide provision housing in Concentration Camps.

 

Milltown Row2

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 12:21:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.

So who is the beef with?

If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.

I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria

No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.



I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive

Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!

The fools who are involved in Hounding out people won't happen if you integrate people into a community rather than franchising it out to the Profit making private sector to provide provision housing in Concentration Camps.

 

They are the ones you have been voting in, they have ran with policies that you are happy with.

No one is to blame other than those that entrusted their vote to a party that they feel is working on their behalf.

So again, if you ain't happy with the current set up, change it.

There's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..

While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.

Empty vessels make the most noise.

Go to the source of the problem and voice your concerns, burning places and chanting racist slogans is so Mississippi Burning vibe for me. 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

From the Bunker

#1254
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 12:37:05 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 12:21:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.

So who is the beef with?

If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.

I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria

No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.



I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive

Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!

The fools who are involved in Hounding out people won't happen if you integrate people into a community rather than franchising it out to the Profit making private sector to provide provision housing in Concentration Camps.

 

They are the ones you have been voting in, they have ran with policies that you are happy with.
No one is to blame other than those that entrusted their vote to a party that they feel is working on their behalf.
So again, if you ain't happy with the current set up, change it.
There's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..
While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
Go to the source of the problem and voice your concerns, burning places and chanting racist slogans is so Mississippi Burning vibe for me. 

Anyone who voices concerns will be called a Right wing Racist pretty quickly. The media are now owned by the Government. They subsidise all their costs.

The Political Parties are in cahoots with the developers/Businessmen/Hoteliers putting together these concentration camps. Even The Kerry Heay-Rae's have got in on the act.

There are plenty of ordinary people who have no ties to any political group who go to protest. They often get labeled where orchestrated gangs join the group and cause damage and trouble. Most of these gangs are financially supported to cause trouble.

The Political Parties are well tuned machines. Most have tradition, money and troops on the ground. They may have bad years but there is always a core to keep them going. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have a new synergy where they now vote for each other across party lines. They are nearly one and the same only better when it comes to getting votes.

Sinn Fein - A rebel without a cause anymore. Lost in the who are we trying to please now. Shocking 4 years in (so called) opposition. Going nowhere!

tonto1888

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 12:37:05 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 12:21:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.

So who is the beef with?

If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.

I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria

No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.



I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive

Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!

The fools who are involved in Hounding out people won't happen if you integrate people into a community rather than franchising it out to the Profit making private sector to provide provision housing in Concentration Camps.

 

They are the ones you have been voting in, they have ran with policies that you are happy with.
No one is to blame other than those that entrusted their vote to a party that they feel is working on their behalf.
So again, if you ain't happy with the current set up, change it.
There's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..
While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
Go to the source of the problem and voice your concerns, burning places and chanting racist slogans is so Mississippi Burning vibe for me. 

Anyone who voices concerns will be called a Right wing Racist pretty quickly. The media are now owned by the Government. They subsidise all their costs.

The Political Parties are in cahoots with the developers/Businessmen/Hoteliers putting together these concentration camps. Even The Kerry Heay-Rae's have got in on the act.

There are plenty of ordinary people who have no ties to any political group who go to protest. They often get labeled where orchestrated gangs join the group and cause damage and trouble. Most of these gangs are financially supported to cause trouble.

The Political Parties are well tuned machines. Most have tradition, money and troops on the ground. They may have bad years but there is always a core to keep them going. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have a new synergy where they now vote for each other across party lines. They are nearly one and the same only better when it comes to getting votes.

Sinn Fein - A rebel without a cause anymore. Lost in the who are we trying to please now. Shocking 4 years in (so called) opposition. Going nowhere!

there is voicing a concern and there is voicing a concern
hey guys, I am not sure putting all these people into a community without a plan to integrate them is the best way to go, can we maybe have a think about how we can do that
v
Ireland is full, get them out and then rioting and burning down hotels

Big difference

Milltown Row2

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 12:37:05 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2024, 12:21:38 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:31:52 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2024, 11:11:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2024, 11:01:07 PMBut while we have a policy of taking in asylum seekers it's up to the government to provide that.

So who is the beef with?

If you were born in the Sudan you'd be trying to hardest to get out of that place, 12 million displaced currently due to civil war.

I don't blame the people trying to better their lives, vet them and integrate them and get out those that are not fitting the criteria

No Sh*t Sherlock, welcome to the conversation. Yeah, help out who need helping out. But you can't help everybody. There's 12 million some where else who need help and 12 million in another place....and another. But you have to set limits, criteria and set-up structures to integrate these people. Not just horse them into private money making concentration camps on the edge of town.



I've not changed my view but hounding people that have come from places that you can't even imagine is were I think is completely misplaced and divisive

Some refugees are ok, but those with brown skins are not because they come from Africa and they are bad!

The fools who are involved in Hounding out people won't happen if you integrate people into a community rather than franchising it out to the Profit making private sector to provide provision housing in Concentration Camps.

 

They are the ones you have been voting in, they have ran with policies that you are happy with.
No one is to blame other than those that entrusted their vote to a party that they feel is working on their behalf.
So again, if you ain't happy with the current set up, change it.
There's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..
While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
Go to the source of the problem and voice your concerns, burning places and chanting racist slogans is so Mississippi Burning vibe for me. 

Anyone who voices concerns will be called a Right wing Racist pretty quickly. The media are now owned by the Government. They subsidise all their costs.

The Political Parties are in cahoots with the developers/Businessmen/Hoteliers putting together these concentration camps. Even The Kerry Heay-Rae's have got in on the act.

There are plenty of ordinary people who have no ties to any political group who go to protest. They often get labeled where orchestrated gangs join the group and cause damage and trouble. Most of these gangs are financially supported to cause trouble.

The Political Parties are well tuned machines. Most have tradition, money and troops on the ground. They may have bad years but there is always a core to keep them going. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have a new synergy where they now vote for each other across party lines. They are nearly one and the same only better when it comes to getting votes.

Sinn Fein - A rebel without a cause anymore. Lost in the who are we trying to please now. Shocking 4 years in (so called) opposition. Going nowhere!

Blaming SF for them being in opposition for this is shocking!

It's like blaming Labour for all of the Tories f**k ups for the last 14 years..

Give your head a wobble
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

burdizzo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 12:37:05 AMThere's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..

While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.

Empty vessels make the most noise.



It may have been a stupid thing to do, but it the length of the sentence - and the others handed down - put to bed the notion of an independent judiciary.

And you mentioned Sudan. Why can't they just go to Saudi Arabia?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: burdizzo on August 15, 2024, 08:30:21 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 15, 2024, 12:37:05 AMThere's a very stupid 53 year old women sitting in a cell tonight in England wondering if her post on Facebook was justified..

While the leader of that group was having an Indian in Spain.

Empty vessels make the most noise.



It may have been a stupid thing to do, but it the length of the sentence - and the others handed down - put to bed the notion of an independent judiciary.

And you mentioned Sudan. Why can't they just go to Saudi Arabia?

Mainly because its involvement with the current civil war? You do have some knowledge of stuff that goes on outside of your white picket fence?

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

burdizzo

Shouldn't stop them taking refugees. The West will take 'em from anywhere.