The far right

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We could encourage more of our students to study abroad. This would free up more accommodation and they would be more likely to stay abroad when they qualify.

Cavan19

Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.

I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.


I agree, I'd like to know that too.

More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...

Is that the only solution?

we cannot build enough. no one seems to have issues with irish emigration.. no protests at dublin airport trying to stop irish emigarton it could work

Irish emigration? Love to see some figures on it. Last person that I know that emigrated for financial reasons left more than 10 years ago. Know plenty who left going on an adventure/travelling etc. I didn't realise it was widespread and people were selling up their houses. Have you details?

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.

I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.


I agree, I'd like to know that too.

More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...

Is that the only solution?

we cannot build enough. no one seems to have issues with irish emigration.. no protests at dublin airport trying to stop irish emigarton it could work

Plenty have issue with it people are emigrating to get out of the family home and get some freedom as there is no rental market and they are priced out of houses to buy.

tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 01:03:00 PMSo do people  agree or disagree with this move?

https://www.newstalk.com/news/airlines-to-face-increased-fines-for-bringing-people-to-ireland-without-documentation-1753947

Would Helen McEntee be regarded as "far right"?


Interesting that when they decided to enforce existing laws the numbers entering without documentation dropped off a cliff

"She said there has already been a "30% to 40% reduction" in people coming to Irish airports with false documents or destroying their documents on arrival in the past two years due to tighter security."

its called Carriers Liability Action. They have had it for years

whitey

Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 01:03:00 PMSo do people  agree or disagree with this move?

https://www.newstalk.com/news/airlines-to-face-increased-fines-for-bringing-people-to-ireland-without-documentation-1753947

Would Helen McEntee be regarded as "far right"?


Interesting that when they decided to enforce existing laws the numbers entering without documentation dropped off a cliff

"She said there has already been a "30% to 40% reduction" in people coming to Irish airports with false documents or destroying their documents on arrival in the past two years due to tighter security."

its called Carriers Liability Action. They have had it for years

So do you agree or disagree with them increasing the fines?

Do you agree or disagree with them enforcing the law?


tonto1888

Don't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them

whitey

Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them

Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?

(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)

Rossfan

About building more houses....whatever happened to the laws of supply and demand and the private sector pouncing to fill the demand?.
We were building around 70,000 "units" per annum 20 years ago when half of them weren't needed!!
Now we have Ministers boasting and patting themselves on the back about providing 30,000 when double that IS needed.

Should have been a Housing Energency provisions Act brought in about 2017. The 2nd best time to bring it in is next week.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them

Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?

(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)

No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

whitey

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them

Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?

(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)

No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok

Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.

johnnycool

Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:56:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them

Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?

(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)

No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok

Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.

Just enforce the existing laws is all anyone could ask for.

Am I right wing now?

whitey

Quote from: johnnycool on August 12, 2024, 05:05:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:56:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them

Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?

(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)

No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok

Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.

Just enforce the existing laws is all anyone could ask for.

Am I right wing now?

According to some posters on here, yes you are

Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:56:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them

Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?

(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)

No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok

Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.

I'm in favour of government following the procedures in place?

Not sure there are any posters on here not looking that.

Here's what I'm not in favour of though,
thugs terrorising people that are being processed
Burning buildings
Misinformation
Illegal gatherings
Towns business losing incomes
Far right

People talking about integration and certain groups staying to themselves. I'm not surprised they are, considering the current events, that'll take years to regain confidence.

I think people need to understand Muslims better, I've very limited knowledge to be fair and I'm a next door neighbour of 20 years to a Muslim family. But they don't bite, they are very family oriented and they work hard, the kids all did well exceptionally well at school, and when one was probably getting 'preached' in a London college the father went over to live and work there to prevent or deter anything. Commendable.


None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

whitey

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:56:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them

Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?

(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)

No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok

Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.

I'm in favour of government following the procedures in place?

Not sure there are any posters on here not looking that.

Here's what I'm not in favour of though,
thugs terrorising people that are being processed
Burning buildings
Misinformation
Illegal gatherings
Towns business losing incomes
Far right

People talking about integration and certain groups staying to themselves. I'm not surprised they are, considering the current events, that'll take years to regain confidence.

I think people need to understand Muslims better, I've very limited knowledge to be fair and I'm a next door neighbour of 20 years to a Muslim family. But they don't bite, they are very family oriented and they work hard, the kids all did well exceptionally well at school, and when one was probably getting 'preached' in a London college the father went over to live and work there to prevent or deter anything. Commendable.




Fair enough

You won't answer the question


Itchy

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:37:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:31:50 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 12, 2024, 01:01:57 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 12, 2024, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 12, 2024, 12:25:37 PMWhat is going to happen in 2/3/10 years time in relation to housing all these A/S's that are here now and the ones that are on the way along with their familys. The goverment are hardly going to keep sticking them into hotels and warehouses.

I have no problem with genuine A/S's coming into the country but i would be concencered about housing and health as both were in a mess before the influx and tens of thousands more coming into the country is obvisouly adding further strain to both and the goverment just seem to be doing nothing about both.


I agree, I'd like to know that too.

More irish could move to the US or Oz, freeing up houses...

Is that the only solution?

we cannot build enough. no one seems to have issues with irish emigration.. no protests at dublin airport trying to stop irish emigarton it could work

Irish emigration? Love to see some figures on it. Last person that I know that emigrated for financial reasons left more than 10 years ago. Know plenty who left going on an adventure/travelling etc. I didn't realise it was widespread and people were selling up their houses. Have you details?

i was just suggesting it as a solution. But between April 2022 and April 2023, 64,000 emigrated but not sure how many were homes owners and were Irish.

also, 30,000 that immigrated to ireland were returning  so we could stop them coming back.

I'll tell Tommy Tiernan youre looking for work.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 05:21:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:56:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 12, 2024, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 12, 2024, 04:45:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2024, 04:27:05 PMDon't care one way or the other if they increase the fine. The airlines just say they got on with documents not our fault they presented at the PCP without them

Do you agree or disagree with them now enforcing the law more rigorously than before?

(More rigorous enforcement led to a 30-40% decrease in the numbers arriving without proper documentation)

No country should be letting people in illegally. I don't know anyone that thinks that's ok

Great-so you ARE in favor of MORE rigorous enforcement of immigration law.

I'm in favour of government following the procedures in place?

Not sure there are any posters on here not looking that.

Here's what I'm not in favour of though,
thugs terrorising people that are being processed
Burning buildings
Misinformation
Illegal gatherings
Towns business losing incomes
Far right

People talking about integration and certain groups staying to themselves. I'm not surprised they are, considering the current events, that'll take years to regain confidence.

I think people need to understand Muslims better, I've very limited knowledge to be fair and I'm a next door neighbour of 20 years to a Muslim family. But they don't bite, they are very family oriented and they work hard, the kids all did well exceptionally well at school, and when one was probably getting 'preached' in a London college the father went over to live and work there to prevent or deter anything. Commendable.




Fair enough

You won't answer the question



I did.. you're heads lit lad.. too much processed food I'd say
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.