The far right

[Milltown Row2]

The recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?

What do you make of that?

I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.

Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.

Live the moment you're in, let the next generation worry about it, you'll stress less.

[Milltown Row2]

I'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.

It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.


I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.

As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.

Not entirely comfortable = haven't any evidence or examples and just spouting shite.

What do you think of Sweden?

Don't know anything about Sweden,  doubt you do either. Only been there once. Now tell me where do I find the destroyed communities in Ireland.

Ill help you out

Directly from the Swedish Government

https://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/

Claim: "The recent rise of violence in Sweden goes unchallenged"

Facts: The situation in Sweden is very serious, with an unprecedented wave of violence.

Claim: "Immigrants are behind the increase in crime"

According to the most recent study, people born abroad are 2.5 times as likely to be registered as a crime suspect as people born in Sweden to two native-born parents.


But as always believe what you want (and ignore hard cold data when it doesnt suit your self congratulatory virtue signalling)

In America, is it mainly immigration that's causing the increase in crime or just Americas?

[whitey]

I'm not totally comfortable discussing our present Immigration issue on a forum titled Far Right.

It pigeon holes concerns into extremism.


I'm not Far Right, but I have my eyes open.
I want to help people in trouble, but you can't help everybody. There has to be a limit.

As I said earlier. Educate yourself on figures, demographics and the money trail.

Not entirely comfortable = haven't any evidence or examples and just spouting shite.

What do you think of Sweden?

Don't know anything about Sweden,  doubt you do either. Only been there once. Now tell me where do I find the destroyed communities in Ireland.

Ill help you out

Directly from the Swedish Government

https://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/

Claim: "The recent rise of violence in Sweden goes unchallenged"

Facts: The situation in Sweden is very serious, with an unprecedented wave of violence.

Claim: "Immigrants are behind the increase in crime"

According to the most recent study, people born abroad are 2.5 times as likely to be registered as a crime suspect as people born in Sweden to two native-born parents.


But as always believe what you want (and ignore hard cold data when it doesnt suit your self congratulatory virtue signalling)

In America, is it mainly immigration that's causing the increase in crime or just Americas?

Probably a combination (but its kinda an apples to bananas comparison given how huge the population is over here. Youd need to see 60,000,000 or more people enter the country in a short period of time, which just wouldn't happen)

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/09/1249626979/migrant-crime-politics-new-york-city

[whitey]

https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-islamization-of-oslo


Some interesting reading from Norway

[whitey]

https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-islamization-of-oslo


Some interesting reading from Norway

" On March 11, 2017, to many viewers' surprise, the nightly news program on government-run NRK television ran an honest segment on the dramatic rise in crime in East Oslo, with a focus principally on Groruddalen—where, as journalist Anders Magnus reported, about 50 percent of the population now had non-Western immigrant backgrounds. Twelve-year-olds were selling drugs; 15-year-olds were carrying guns, knives, and baseball bats; Muslim youth gangs were assaulting adults in the open street; and Muslim parents, with few exceptions, were showing utter indifference to the activities of their criminal sons. "

[thebigfella]

https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-islamization-of-oslo


Some interesting reading from Norway

Yet it's not from Norway. It's a US publication and the author wouldn't be the most unbiased either.

[From the Bunker]

The recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?

What do you make of that?

I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.

Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.

Live the moment you're in, let the next generation worry about it, you'll stress less.

Community here ok also. I suppose you're right. 25 or so years from now I'll be gone. It's some one else's worry.

[From the Bunker]

[whitey]

https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-islamization-of-oslo


Some interesting reading from Norway

Yet it's not from Norway. It's a US publication and the author wouldn't be the most unbiased either.

The TV report isnt from Norway?


" On March 11, 2017, to many viewers' surprise, the nightly news program on government-run NRK television ran an honest segment on the dramatic rise in crime in East Oslo, with a focus principally on Groruddalen—where, as journalist Anders Magnus reported, about 50 percent of the population now had non-Western immigrant backgrounds. Twelve-year-olds were selling drugs; 15-year-olds were carrying guns, knives, and baseball bats; Muslim youth gangs were assaulting adults in the open street; and Muslim parents, with few exceptions, were showing utter indifference to the activities of their criminal sons

[burdizzo]

The recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?

What do you make of that?

I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.

Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.

Live the moment you're in, let the next generation worry about it, you'll stress less.

Community here ok also. I suppose you're right. 25 or so years from now I'll be gone. It's some one else's worry.

Fantastic legacy to leave your children, though.

[Milltown Row2]

The recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?

What do you make of that?

I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.

Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.

Live the moment you're in, let the next generation worry about it, you'll stress less.

Community here ok also. I suppose you're right. 25 or so years from now I'll be gone. It's some one else's worry.

Fantastic legacy to leave your children, though.

It's a better legacy to the one I grew up in to be fair.

You never had to worry about being kidnapped and shoved into a black taxi

[burdizzo]

The recent figure from census sits at 12%? Is that the link you sent?

What do you make of that?

I'm ok with it, in fact I signed a few passports recently for my neighbours from Pakistan.

Community still ok here, but I suppose in about 40 years time we'll all be praying to Mohammed.

Live the moment you're in, let the next generation worry about it, you'll stress less.

Community here ok also. I suppose you're right. 25 or so years from now I'll be gone. It's some one else's worry.

Fantastic legacy to leave your children, though.

It's a better legacy to the one I grew up in to be fair.

You never had to worry about being kidnapped and shoved into a black taxi

On the other hand, the south was blessed, from the inception of the state, with a homogenous population. It's often said, that were it not for partition, the Irish state would not have survived. I accept in the north it's a different situation. However, we should be very careful about importing ethnic strife in the south.

[Milltown Row2]

We'll never know if it had have survived, never got that opportunity to see. Dropped like a sack of potatoes

[EmeraldOpal]

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/irish-patriot-who-marched-with-loyalist-mob-facing-drug-charges-while-shankill-residents-cheer-disorder-arrest/a1925790651.html



so much of an irish patriot that hes profiteering out of destroying irish lives.

[EmeraldOpal]

he 'Irish patriot' who joined with loyalist paramilitaries in leading a racist mob through Belfast is facing cocaine and ketamine-dealing charges.

Bernard Lavery was pictured at the front of an anti-immigration rally at City Hall last weekend waving an Irish tricolour, and then marching with 40 thugs towards the Islamic Centre in south Belfast.

Among those in his company was convicted sectarian killer Glen Kane, who was jailed for nine years for beating innocent Catholic Kieran Abram to death in 1992.

The Shankill Road thug was arrested at his Riga Street home late yesterday afternoon in connection with last week's disorder.

Glen Kane being arrested

Sunday Life watched as he was escorted from the property to cheers from locals and taken into custody.

Fellow race hate marcher Bernard Lavery, who is from the nationalist Oldpark area of north Belfast but living in the Lower Ormeau district of the city, appeared in court last Monday charged with taking part in an unnotified parade.

The 34-year-old was remanded in custody after a prosecutor revealed he was in breach of Crown Court bail conditions relating to a number of serious drugs offences.

Sunday Life can reveal these are being concerned in the supply of cocaine, being concerned in the supply of ketamine, possessing cocaine and possessing amphetamines.

Court documents show Lavery was arrested in October 2022 during a major PSNI investigation into drug dealing and that the supply charges against him relate to a five-month period stretching back from then until May 2022.

His address was given in court as Farnham Street, off the Ormeau Road, just yards from the Sean Graham's bookmaker' shop where five innocent civilians, the youngest of whom was 15 years old, were murdered by the UDA in 1992.

As Saturday's racist mob marched through south Belfast last weekend, it tried to make its way towards the bookies.

Officers escorting Kane to a PSNI Land Rover

Loyalists were recorded shouting "Fenian b****s" and mocking the Sean Graham's slaughter with chants of "fk your five alive". They were also filmed making gun gestures towards a crowd of 100 locals who pushed them back onto University Street.

By this stage, the tricolour-waving Bernard Lavery had left the racist march. However, his involvement in the disgraceful scenes at City Hall caused fury in the Lower Ormeau community.

A plan by anti-racists and republicans to picket his Farnham Street home at the beginning of last week was called off at the last moment.

Instead word was sent to associates of Lavery that he will not be welcome back to the area on his release from prison or the nationalist Oldpark area, where he is from originally.

One local told us: "Lavery had only been living on Farnham Street for a few months. After he appeared in court last Monday, there was real anger in the community.

"A plan to picket his house was called off after he was remanded in custody. Lavery won't be able to come back here if he is bailed, or to the Oldpark where he is from."

One of the Coolock protesters in a Sandy Row bar

Sunday Life understands Lavery's name is on a list of far right anti-immigration supporters living in nationalist areas of Belfast compiled by republicans in the wake of last weekend's race-hate parade.

A former election candidate from the city is also included.

Republican paramilitaries including the INLA and New IRA are understood to be planning to forcibly remove several of these individuals from their homes.

"There are plenty of these racist and far-right lowlifes living in nationalist areas of north and west Belfast," explained a dissident source.

"They are going to be identified and removed.

"The attack on the Lower Ormeau last weekend crossed a line. It's not only those at that race hate parade who should be worried. The nationalist keyboard warriors who've been spreading lies on social media are going to be confronted."

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Loyalists making gun signs at Ormeau Road residents close to the scene of the Sean Graham's massacre

In a further insult to the Sean Graham's dead, a group of far-right protesters from Coolock in Dublin went drinking with UDA supporters in the Royal Bar in Sandy Row after the City Hall gathering.

They were given what has been described as a "heroes' welcome" in the pub, which is adorned with emblems supporting the paramilitary gang.

Among those in the Coolock group's company was the UDA gunman who drove the getaway car used in the Sean Graham's attack. He is referred to as 'Suspect 4' in a Police Ombudsman report into the atrocity.

When Bernard Lavery appeared in court, his solicitor argued he had committed the "simple offence" of unwittingly taking part in an unlawful parade.

A loyalist mocks the Sean Graham bookmakers atrocity as he cocks a make-believe gun

The court was told the defendant was "at the very front" of the protest as it left the City Hall and was wearing a baseball cap, dark clothing and a face mask while waving an Irish flag.

Prosecutors said police believe Lavery, who was seen "pointing and gesturing towards hotels", played "a significant" and "pivotal role" in the protest.

They said the accused was in breach of Crown Court bail conditions relating to a number of drugs offences.

However, Lavery's legal representative said his client acted "to try and quell any disorder" and adopted "a pacifying role".

"He was encouraging those engaging in serious disorder to desist... he was holding crowds back," the solicitor added.

"He was the first person to leave when things took a very serious downturn."

The solicitor claimed his client regretted taking part in his first protest and "denies any suggestion he is a leader".

But Judge McStay said those factors "actually show the grave authority" that Lavery had over the demonstration, "which went on to have very serious ramifications".