All Ireland Final Armagh v Galway 28 July 2024

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Maroon Manc

Quote from: general_lee on July 17, 2024, 02:51:48 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2024, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 17, 2024, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 17, 2024, 01:37:14 PM240 Tickets for each club in Armagh

https://x.com/mccoyniall/status/1813551331719934351?s=46&t=zMI0pHqP8aYtYYerofczvg

Thats a huge number of tickets for small junior clubs, doesn't seem fair that all clubs getting the same amount of tickets. I doubt there's many counites who go down that route.
Surely each club has a registered number of members and it wouldn't have been hard to calculate the allocation on a pro-rata basis? 
I have read elsewhere that Armagh clubs voted in favour of each club having an equal allocation in regards AI tickets, and it carried due to there being so many small clubs. So tough titty for Clann Éireann, Cross, Killeavy etc.

A very odd take on it, I'm sure there's plenty of good people in those clubs who won't get a ticket now because of the incompetence of their County Board.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: galwayman on July 17, 2024, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2024, 02:11:34 PMThat's fair in respect that if the allocation is not used within that clubs membership, then the rest go back to the county to allocate to other clubs that are short of tickets due to their membership being bigger
Are you serious? No club is going to return any All Ireland tickets.
If you are a small club with less members than the number of tickets allocated to you - you're going to give two tickets to some members. Or maybe give some to lads who have been members or players in the past but aren't anymore for whatever reason (moved away etc.).
You absolutely will not be returning any to the county board - not a chance.

And that's fine if the club is going to do that, just don't be surprised that they get less tickets the next time..

Giving non paid up members tickets is just wrong..

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Cyril Farrell fan

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2024, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 17, 2024, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2024, 02:11:34 PMThat's fair in respect that if the allocation is not used within that clubs membership, then the rest go back to the county to allocate to other clubs that are short of tickets due to their membership being bigger
Are you serious? No club is going to return any All Ireland tickets.
If you are a small club with less members than the number of tickets allocated to you - you're going to give two tickets to some members. Or maybe give some to lads who have been members or players in the past but aren't anymore for whatever reason (moved away etc.).
You absolutely will not be returning any to the county board - not a chance.

And that's fine if the club is going to do that, just don't be surprised that they get less tickets the next time..

Giving non paid up members tickets is just wrong..

Unless it's the local bank manager or the local solicitor  ::)

RedHand88

Quote from: galwayman on July 17, 2024, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2024, 02:11:34 PMThat's fair in respect that if the allocation is not used within that clubs membership, then the rest go back to the county to allocate to other clubs that are short of tickets due to their membership being bigger
Are you serious? No club is going to return any All Ireland tickets.
If you are a small club with less members than the number of tickets allocated to you - you're going to give two tickets to some members. Or maybe give some to lads who have been members or players in the past but aren't anymore for whatever reason (moved away etc.).
You absolutely will not be returning any to the county board - not a chance.


Exactly. They'd raffle them before handing them back.

Armagh Girl

Heard last night of paid up club members asking for 5 plus tickets each. Nb none of these people have attended any matches this year except ulster final and last Saturday. They may not get these but given the club is small they are likely to receive more than 1 per person. I think this is very, very unfair. If you are a member and lucky to get, it should be 1 member 1 ticket.
(Just done a quick calculation on how much we spent on tickets following Armagh this year alone - 2'adults & 1 juvenile from league inc season tickets to AI final amounted to over £925 just for tickets never mind travel, food and stay in cork, so expensive enough but worth it). 
Good luck to those still waiting and hope all real fans get sorted!

Truth hurts

In Armagh, who is the largest membership? Surely Killeavy is up there?

Armagh18

Quote from: Truth hurts on July 17, 2024, 04:46:10 PMIn Armagh, who is the largest membership? Surely Killeavy is up there?
Yeah them, Cross, Clann Eireann, Clann Na Gael and Harps I'm guessing.

Likes of Lissummon, Mullabrack, Dorsey and Killean would be smallest I'd say.

statto

Quote from: Armagh Girl on July 17, 2024, 04:13:19 PMHeard last night of paid up club members asking for 5 plus tickets each. Nb none of these people have attended any matches this year except ulster final and last Saturday. They may not get these but given the club is small they are likely to receive more than 1 per person. I think this is very, very unfair. If you are a member and lucky to get, it should be 1 member 1 ticket.
(Just done a quick calculation on how much we spent on tickets following Armagh this year alone - 2'adults & 1 juvenile from league inc season tickets to AI final amounted to over £925 just for tickets never mind travel, food and stay in cork, so expensive enough but worth it). 
Good luck to those still waiting and hope all real fans get sorted!
The old "I heard".They may ask for 5 tickets as people will have an unrealistic entitlement.that doesn't mean they will get it.I spoke to club secretary before Ulster final and I Said you must he tortured.says that some woman who young fella plays u12 and she wasn't a member asked to put name down for 8 tickets, yet wouldn't pay 30 quid membership.

armaghniac

Quote from: statto on July 17, 2024, 05:06:31 PM
Quote from: Armagh Girl on July 17, 2024, 04:13:19 PMHeard last night of paid up club members asking for 5 plus tickets each. Nb none of these people have attended any matches this year except ulster final and last Saturday. They may not get these but given the club is small they are likely to receive more than 1 per person. I think this is very, very unfair. If you are a member and lucky to get, it should be 1 member 1 ticket.
(Just done a quick calculation on how much we spent on tickets following Armagh this year alone - 2'adults & 1 juvenile from league inc season tickets to AI final amounted to over £925 just for tickets never mind travel, food and stay in cork, so expensive enough but worth it). 
Good luck to those still waiting and hope all real fans get sorted!
The old "I heard".They may ask for 5 tickets as people will have an unrealistic entitlement.that doesn't mean they will get it.I spoke to club secretary before Ulster final and I Said you must he tortured.says that some woman who young fella plays u12 and she wasn't a member asked to put name down for 8 tickets, yet wouldn't pay 30 quid membership.

Tell her to join Mullabrack.
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AustinPowers

Quote from: Sportacus on July 17, 2024, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 17, 2024, 01:48:00 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 17, 2024, 01:37:14 PM240 Tickets for each club in Armagh

https://x.com/mccoyniall/status/1813551331719934351?s=46&t=zMI0pHqP8aYtYYerofczvg

Thats a huge number of tickets for small junior clubs, doesn't seem fair that all clubs getting the same amount of tickets. I doubt there's many counites who go down that route.
Surely each club has a registered number of members and it wouldn't have been hard to calculate the allocation on a pro-rata basis? 

True.

At least then you'd know  if you were  a member you'd be guaranteed  a ticket. And it would cut out the shenanigans that go on  around AI final allocations

As it is, at least clubs with  less than 240 members , each member  can't be shafted  on a ticket.

Manning18

#175
Quote from: lurganblue on July 17, 2024, 09:29:56 AMIf you are a diehard county supporter and not really a club person, then the season ticket was a no brainer. If you went to all the games and didn't have a season ticket then more fool you.


I disagree on the season ticket. They've decimated the perks of it so much that you'd think they're trying to dissuade people from using it. Upping the price so that there's basically no discount, removing the free championship game etc. Worst of all is removing the option to add a person next to you for a game, if you want to bring your parent, mate or even a kid along. Most people don't want to sit alone. No idea why they removed that

It's obviously amazing for the peace of mind on occasions like this but it's not as if either county is Dublin or Kerry. A final was unlikely for both

twohands!!!

Quote from: Manning18 on July 17, 2024, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 17, 2024, 09:29:56 AMIf you are a diehard county supporter and not really a club person, then the season ticket was a no brainer. If you went to all the games and didn't have a season ticket then more fool you.


I disagree on the season ticket. They've decimated the perks of it so much that you'd think they're trying to dissuade people from using it. Upping the price so that there's basically no discount, removing the free championship game etc. Worst of all is removing the option to add a person next to you for a game, if you want to bring your parent, mate or even a kid along. Most people don't want to sit alone. No idea why they removed that

It's obviously amazing for the peace of mind on occasions like this but it's not as if either county is Dublin or Kerry. A final was unlikely for both

Maybe a bit conspiracy theory-ish but the season ticket reduces the importance of a whole lot of GAA insiders "pull" around All-Ireland tickets a fair bit. Reduces Croke Park insiders, county board insiders and even the influence of club insiders soft power in terms of providing tickets to folks. A lot of these inside GAA people just don't like the idea that some random punter off the street can guarantee themselves an all-Ireland ticket by going to ticketmaster and simply paying for the season ticket and not having to engage with a club at all. 




armaghniac

Quote from: Manning18 on July 17, 2024, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 17, 2024, 09:29:56 AMIf you are a diehard county supporter and not really a club person, then the season ticket was a no brainer. If you went to all the games and didn't have a season ticket then more fool you.


I disagree on the season ticket. They've decimated the perks of it so much that you'd think they're trying to dissuade people from using it. Upping the price so that there's basically no discount, removing the free championship game etc. Worst of all is removing the option to add a person next to you for a game, if you want to bring your parent, mate or even a kid along. Most people don't want to sit alone. No idea why they removed that

It's obviously amazing for the peace of mind on occasions like this but it's not as if either county is Dublin or Kerry. A final was unlikely for both

The cost is one thing, although the season ticket gives free admission to the league finals, and Armagh were almost certain to be in the Div 2 final from the beginning. You could also get admission to the All Ireland club final, which I used the previous 2 years when Kilmacud was there.

However, a flexible arrangement for the seating is a no brainer.

The only limitation of this is that it gives people with money in hand (like me) an advantage as we have no problem forking out the cash, although this year I actually did get to all league and championship games.
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Wildweasel74

It's been a standard 1 membership, 1 ticket for donkeys years. I can't see any difference now. People  asking for 5 tickets, don't make me laugh.

David McKeown

Genuine question that I don't know the answer to but how are county board fees etc calculated. Is each club required to pay the same or is it calculated on a pro rate basis. Same with providing stewards etc?

If it's the same regardless of club size then I can see the argument for ticket allocation being calculated the same way.
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