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Quote from: Brendan on July 02, 2024, 09:10:27 PMHurling is so frantic they can't get the ball pucked out quick enough and back into play, even at underage teams getting tanked and they'll be looking for the quick puck out almost as if it's just more enjoyable whereas football they'll move like a slug to set up for the kickout


Please don't compare Hurling and Football. It's like comparing Draughts and Chess.

Jell 0 Biafra

Hurling was a lot better when they weren't just pinging shots over the bar from miles out every time.  I find it hard to watch now for the most part.

screenexile

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on July 02, 2024, 10:58:08 PMHurling was a lot better when they weren't just pinging shots over the bar from miles out every time.  I find it hard to watch now for the most part.

100% agree, they need to reign in the ball so it's more difficult to score from further out. Lads are popping balls over left and right from 65 yards and further out as if it's nothing!

blanketattack

Shot clock is a must.
Do what they did in the NBA, find the average number of shots attempted per match and divide the total time by that number.
I reckon it'd be around 75 seconds.
The last straw in basketball was a sextuple overtime game where there was one shot attempted in each period of overtime - whichever team won the tip-off, kept possession for almost the full 5 minutes, until the end when they attempted a last second shot to win.
I'm surprised we haven't seen that tactic in football.

A 4th official would be in charge of the resetting the shot clock.
Games without 4th officials wouldn't have a shot clock.

Flood defense in Aussie Rules brought in the 6-6-6 rule - 6 players in each 3rd for a centre bounce.
Gaelic football has a 6-2-6 rule for the throw in, could implement the same for each kickout, except have it for the two 65m lines rather than the 45s.

Require a certain number of players (say 3) to remain in opposition 65 (would say half but that would require the halfway line to be marked out the whole way across rather than just 4 metres).
Punishment being a 45 metre free.
Could phrase it, that it's only at stoppages, so ref/linesman doesn't have to be looking for it during play.
After a certain number of offenses it'd be a penalty as otherwise teams that are a few points up in the last few minutes would break the rule flagrantly as they'd be happy to concede a 45m free.

As an aside, since the throw-in rule moved non-midfielders from the 65m line to the 45m line a few years ago, the 65m line is no longer needed for a gaelic football match.
A good few club Gaelic Football pitches no longer have 65 lines marked, even with a flag. Do any major GAA grounds not have the 65m line lined out?
Or vice-versa in hurling areas as there's no mention of the 45m line in hurling?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: screenexile on July 02, 2024, 11:24:07 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on July 02, 2024, 10:58:08 PMHurling was a lot better when they weren't just pinging shots over the bar from miles out every time.  I find it hard to watch now for the most part.

100% agree, they need to reign in the ball so it's more difficult to score from further out. Lads are popping balls over left and right from 65 yards and further out as if it's nothing!

Been to any club games in Derry? Did one last week, boys be lucky to pop them over from 21 yards..

Stop looking at the exceptional talent the big teams bring and look at the standard..

Club games in football mimic intercounty in defence, that's not the same as lads at the highest standard of skill knocking points over from over 65 yards.

I'd say most points in a game are from 45 yards and closer from play.

Be surprised if you prove me wrong
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

theticklemister

Do any of ye find it difficult to follow the sliotar on tv? I find it a nightmare, even with the now-colored ball.

RedHand88

Quote from: theticklemister on July 03, 2024, 05:12:40 AMDo any of ye find it difficult to follow the sliotar on tv? I find it a nightmare, even with the now-colored ball.

Yes it makes the sport unwatchable.

lurganblue

The product is one thing, but for me the most serious trend is the inflated costs and the condensed season. The GAA, an amateur sport, has made it totally impossible for a football loving family to follow their county team throughout the year. Half empty stadiums and they do nothing but raise the prices. Big games even behind paywalls on TV now too.

They are constantly charging for kids when again, the place is half empty.

It has even filtered down to county board level.  I recently went to an U14 county final in the Athletic Grounds and they were charging for the children to enter. I'm at a loss as to what that is about.

I used to try to dispute the Grab All Association slur that the soccer ones etc would have thrown about. It's getting harder and harder to do that.

Armagh18

Quote from: lurganblue on July 03, 2024, 09:54:28 AMThe product is one thing, but for me the most serious trend is the inflated costs and the condensed season. The GAA, an amateur sport, has made it totally impossible for a football loving family to follow their county team throughout the year. Half empty stadiums and they do nothing but raise the prices. Big games even behind paywalls on TV now too.

They are constantly charging for kids when again, the place is half empty.

It has even filtered down to county board level.  I recently went to an U14 county final in the Athletic Grounds and they were charging for the children to enter. I'm at a loss as to what that is about.

I used to try to dispute the Grab All Association slur that the soccer ones etc would have thrown about. It's getting harder and harder to do that.
I would have pointed to the fact that scrapping replays is them turning down a clean fortune which surely they wouldn't do if they were so greedy. Starting to realise that An empty Croke Park for the whole of August has a lot more earning potential from concerts than a few replays.

Ticket prices right down to food and drink are madness.

tonto1888

Quote from: Armagh18 on July 03, 2024, 10:03:59 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 03, 2024, 09:54:28 AMThe product is one thing, but for me the most serious trend is the inflated costs and the condensed season. The GAA, an amateur sport, has made it totally impossible for a football loving family to follow their county team throughout the year. Half empty stadiums and they do nothing but raise the prices. Big games even behind paywalls on TV now too.

They are constantly charging for kids when again, the place is half empty.

It has even filtered down to county board level.  I recently went to an U14 county final in the Athletic Grounds and they were charging for the children to enter. I'm at a loss as to what that is about.

I used to try to dispute the Grab All Association slur that the soccer ones etc would have thrown about. It's getting harder and harder to do that.
I would have pointed to the fact that scrapping replays is them turning down a clean fortune which surely they wouldn't do if they were so greedy. Starting to realise that An empty Croke Park for the whole of August has a lot more earning potential from concerts than a few replays.

Ticket prices right down to food and drink are madness.

3 euros for a bottle of water in CP at the weekend

Armagh18

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 03, 2024, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 03, 2024, 10:03:59 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 03, 2024, 09:54:28 AMThe product is one thing, but for me the most serious trend is the inflated costs and the condensed season. The GAA, an amateur sport, has made it totally impossible for a football loving family to follow their county team throughout the year. Half empty stadiums and they do nothing but raise the prices. Big games even behind paywalls on TV now too.

They are constantly charging for kids when again, the place is half empty.

It has even filtered down to county board level.  I recently went to an U14 county final in the Athletic Grounds and they were charging for the children to enter. I'm at a loss as to what that is about.

I used to try to dispute the Grab All Association slur that the soccer ones etc would have thrown about. It's getting harder and harder to do that.
I would have pointed to the fact that scrapping replays is them turning down a clean fortune which surely they wouldn't do if they were so greedy. Starting to realise that An empty Croke Park for the whole of August has a lot more earning potential from concerts than a few replays.

Ticket prices right down to food and drink are madness.

3 euros for a bottle of water in CP at the weekend
Sticking the hand in, so more much for an amateur organisation. I know Jarlath loves to say 83% or whatever it is goes straight back in which is great but never mentions the obscene salary he and I'm sure plenty others are on. And I'm sure we all give enough £ back to the clubs as it is.

Itchy

What about an extra set of goals like aussie rules, it would encourage shooting from further out and then would surely mean defences would have to press higher up the field. Of course scoring would have to change to something like the aussies do. just a thought.

Rossfan

Back to the 1880s ;D
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

didlyi

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 03, 2024, 09:45:45 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 03, 2024, 05:12:40 AMDo any of ye find it difficult to follow the sliotar on tv? I find it a nightmare, even with the now-colored ball.

Yes it makes the sport unwatchable.

FFS, Maybe ye should consider actually going to a game for some eye training.

Sheedy

For me and I've said it on different threads tickets prices have to be more realistic.

Fella in work, no interest in gaa but his kids play, they want to go to watch Down in the tailteann final, then he says 55 euro a ticket? no chance he says.

When I was a kid 80s and 90s my da and especially my uncle used to take me to Down matches all over the place, great days. Is there that same connection now a days, I don't think so.

I'm still going but it's out of blind loyalty, definitely dont feel it's value for money especially for a family.

Tailteann semis, 10500 attendance, give out free tickets to competing counties and try to boost attendance, try to make it a club day out at a reasonable price, try to promote the games instead of letting them stagnate.