All-Ireland QFs: Armagh/Roscommon, Dublin/Galway, Donegal/Louth, Kerry/Derry

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ardtole

Would it be worth considering putting Rodgers on Clifford and bring Bradley into midfield.

armaghniac



Great to have strong subs that can be brought on, if a man has yellow card or is tiring.
Roscommon's last championship win in Croke Pk was against Armagh in 1980, our challenge faded that day when Colm McKinstry went off injured, but I think we have the subs to maintain performance in the event of injury.
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Armagh18

Is Burns for Higgins the only change? Obviously Burns and McCambridge in to do man marking jobs.

The rumour mill has been quiet this week at least for us. Solid team and some serious quality on the bench to bring on as you say.


seanyb

Quote from: cornerback on June 27, 2024, 09:16:44 PMhttps://x.com/doiregaa/status/1806417495294722277?s=46&t=F_sQ_3viFZ6zidQYNagDEA

Eunan Mulholland in for Emmett Bradley
Niall Laughlin back in the squad

A strong Derry bench too. Would love to see Cormac Murphy get game time, brings serious energy to that team. Great to see Loughlin back too

balladmaker

In fairness to Geezer, he has built a panel where every sub coming on could easily fit into the starting 15.  I think it was Oisin O'Neill who said after the Derry game that the B team hadn't lost to the A team in training in a month.


Armagh18

Quote from: balladmaker on June 27, 2024, 10:23:38 PMIn fairness to Geezer, he has built a panel where every sub coming on could easily fit into the starting 15.  I think it was Oisin O'Neill who said after the Derry game that the B team hadn't lost to the A team in training in a month.
Yeah bar the 2 O'Neills and maybe one or two others if they're on form we don't have many proper superstars, but we've a squad of lads all of similar ability where no one is a nailed on starter and if someone is injured theres a player just as good waiting to come in. In other years we'd have seriously missed players as good as Ciaran Mackin and Conor O'Neill but we've been able to cope.

tbrick18

Quote from: balladmaker on June 27, 2024, 10:23:38 PMIn fairness to Geezer, he has built a panel where every sub coming on could easily fit into the starting 15.  I think it was Oisin O'Neill who said after the Derry game that the B team hadn't lost to the A team in training in a month.

Does that mean penalties AET?

tbrick18

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2024, 10:55:57 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on June 27, 2024, 10:23:38 PMIn fairness to Geezer, he has built a panel where every sub coming on could easily fit into the starting 15.  I think it was Oisin O'Neill who said after the Derry game that the B team hadn't lost to the A team in training in a month.
Yeah bar the 2 O'Neills and maybe one or two others if they're on form we don't have many proper superstars, but we've a squad of lads all of similar ability where no one is a nailed on starter and if someone is injured theres a player just as good waiting to come in. In other years we'd have seriously missed players as good as Ciaran Mackin and Conor O'Neill but we've been able to cope.

To be fair, that's not a bad position to be in.
It means you can absorb injuries and drives competition for places and means you'll win a lot of matches.
The only downside for the Armagh setup, which I think will hinder them winning major titles, is the fact they don't have any proper super stars as you call them.
All the succesful teams have them - Mayo had a good few and still couldn't get that elusive AI, but Dublin and Kerry have them in spades.

From a Derry pov, we've a few players that might just be close to that superstar status - Rogers, Glass, Ethan Doc, for example. But we don't have that bench of players that are at similar standard to the starting 15. We have improved there - but with so many injuries this  year it's still hasnt been enough.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: balladmaker on June 27, 2024, 10:23:38 PMIn fairness to Geezer, he has built a panel where every sub coming on could easily fit into the starting 15.  I think it was Oisin O'Neill who said after the Derry game that the B team hadn't lost to the A team in training in a month.

In the terms of strength in depth and possible impact off the bench Armagh are among the best out there.

bennydorano

You wouldn't think Armagh are 2/5 or 1/3 shots listening to some of the pods/ twitter. Uncertainty over Armagh is very understandable, not sure what I think yet!

I've a sneaky feeling Galway could upset the applecart this weekend. Unfortunately for Derry, I think Kerry really have something to prove to themselves and to everyone else, think they'll come out with all guns blazing and no complacency. Hard to see past a comfortable Donegal win.

Armagh18

Quote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2024, 11:11:50 PMYou wouldn't think Armagh are 2/5 or 1/3 shots listening to some of the pods/ twitter. Uncertainty over Armagh is very understandable, not sure what I think yet!

I've a sneaky feeling Galway could upset the applecart this weekend. Unfortunately for Derry, I think Kerry really have something to prove to themselves and to everyone else, think they'll come out with all guns blazing and no complacency. Hard to see past a comfortable Donegal win.
I think if Galway were at 100% they'd actually beat Dublin or come very close. Not sure Walsh and Comer are at themselves though nor Sean Kelly which is a shame.

Roscommon a good team but 2 weeks ago Cavan without Paddy Lynch score 1-20 against them. Surely we can hit a similar score?

Solo_run

Quote from: tbrick18 on June 27, 2024, 11:03:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2024, 10:55:57 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on June 27, 2024, 10:23:38 PMIn fairness to Geezer, he has built a panel where every sub coming on could easily fit into the starting 15.  I think it was Oisin O'Neill who said after the Derry game that the B team hadn't lost to the A team in training in a month.
Yeah bar the 2 O'Neills and maybe one or two others if they're on form we don't have many proper superstars, but we've a squad of lads all of similar ability where no one is a nailed on starter and if someone is injured theres a player just as good waiting to come in. In other years we'd have seriously missed players as good as Ciaran Mackin and Conor O'Neill but we've been able to cope.

To be fair, that's not a bad position to be in.
It means you can absorb injuries and drives competition for places and means you'll win a lot of matches.
The only downside for the Armagh setup, which I think will hinder them winning major titles, is the fact they don't have any proper super stars as you call them.
All the succesful teams have them - Mayo had a good few and still couldn't get that elusive AI, but Dublin and Kerry have them in spades.

From a Derry pov, we've a few players that might just be close to that superstar status - Rogers, Glass, Ethan Doc, for example. But we don't have that bench of players that are at similar standard to the starting 15. We have improved there - but with so many injuries this  year it's still hasnt been enough.

I don't think it is having Marquee names afterall this is a relatively young team. I think the big problem is leadership, I don't see a McGeeney or McGrane driving the team on, on the pitch...it certainly shows when we try to close out games.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2024, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2024, 11:11:50 PMYou wouldn't think Armagh are 2/5 or 1/3 shots listening to some of the pods/ twitter. Uncertainty over Armagh is very understandable, not sure what I think yet!

I've a sneaky feeling Galway could upset the applecart this weekend. Unfortunately for Derry, I think Kerry really have something to prove to themselves and to everyone else, think they'll come out with all guns blazing and no complacency. Hard to see past a comfortable Donegal win.
I think if Galway were at 100% they'd actually beat Dublin or come very close. Not sure Walsh and Comer are at themselves though nor Sean Kelly which is a shame.

Roscommon a good team but 2 weeks ago Cavan without Paddy Lynch score 1-20 against them. Surely we can hit a similar score?

Probably would if this match became a shootout but the likelihood of that happening? cagey tactical affair looks more likely with long awaited semi final place offer for both teams.

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Solo_run

Quote from: Blowitupref on June 27, 2024, 11:54:13 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 27, 2024, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2024, 11:11:50 PMYou wouldn't think Armagh are 2/5 or 1/3 shots listening to some of the pods/ twitter. Uncertainty over Armagh is very understandable, not sure what I think yet!

I've a sneaky feeling Galway could upset the applecart this weekend. Unfortunately for Derry, I think Kerry really have something to prove to themselves and to everyone else, think they'll come out with all guns blazing and no complacency. Hard to see past a comfortable Donegal win.
I think if Galway were at 100% they'd actually beat Dublin or come very close. Not sure Walsh and Comer are at themselves though nor Sean Kelly which is a shame.

Roscommon a good team but 2 weeks ago Cavan without Paddy Lynch score 1-20 against them. Surely we can hit a similar score?

Probably would if this match became a shootout but the likelihood of that happening? cagey tactical affair looks more likely with long awaited semi final place offer for both teams.



Need to get the balance right.

Armagh let Galway dictate the pace the game was played at last time out and some players who were not 100% fit. If anything Armagh should have tried to run them into the ground. Roscommon not only need to recover physically but also be up for the game mentally  -which they will be. Armagh need to go at them for 70 + mins