Power Rankings

Started by SouthOfThe Bann, March 25, 2024, 02:55:09 PM

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armaghniac

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Laoisman11's ranking on Boardsie
Basically you have Dublin and Kerry and Armagh, Galway, Mayo and Donegal much the same and Tyrone not far behind. One of Dublin or Kerry will likely win out, but one could fall to one of the next five if they met. In this system Galway are expected to beat Monaghan and won't go up much for doing so, Mayo might go up a bit if they beat Derry. However, the QFs would see changes in the positions.

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Armagh18

Surprised Cavan went down and Rossies went up by so much based on that

armaghniac

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2024, 05:05:28 PMSurprised Cavan went down and Rossies went up by so much based on that

In this system if one of two similar teams beats the other then they go up. Had either Armagh or Galway won on Sunday they would now be ahead of Kerry, who got no credit for beating Louth.
There are different angles on how these calculations should be done.
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Armagh18

Quote from: armaghniac on June 18, 2024, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2024, 05:05:28 PMSurprised Cavan went down and Rossies went up by so much based on that

In this system if one of two similar teams beats the other then they go up. Had either Armagh or Galway won on Sunday they would now be ahead of Kerry, who got no credit for beating Louth.
There are different angles on how these calculations should be done.
Interesting system but obviously wouldn't reflect reality.

Another obvious one is Westmeath being 19th when they've proven over the last 2 years they are definitely a solid top 16 team with 6 very competitive games in 2 seriously tough groups and they certainly shouldn't be ranked lower than the neighbours.

armaghniac

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2024, 05:39:17 PMInteresting system but obviously wouldn't reflect reality.

I think it is not too far off in the medium term, note that the top 7 are all in Div 1. 

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 18, 2024, 05:39:17 PMAnother obvious one is Westmeath being 19th when they've proven over the last 2 years they are definitely a solid top 16 team with 6 very competitive games in 2 seriously tough groups and they certainly shouldn't be ranked lower than the neighbours.

The system is affected by the nature of the draw, if WH were in the Tailteann they would have gone up by winning games, but by being in Sam they only lost games and although this did not result in them going down their competitors Down etc were going up by winning games. This kind of system works best in the league where teams are playing those fairly similar in standard and over the season everyone plays everyone.
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Armagh18

Yeah top 2 correct at this stage and next 5 could all beat each other on a given day. 

If we'd beaten Galway or they'd beaten us I donnt think it would have meant either deserved to rank ahead of Kerry. Probably more accurate during the league as you say.

smelmoth

The whole power rankings concept is a waste of time and effort.

Rossfan

A bit of harmless fun.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

bennydorano

Quote from: smelmoth on June 19, 2024, 07:13:03 AMThe whole power rankings concept is a waste of time and effort.
A pointless discussion in a sea of pointless discussions.

armaghniac

Quote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2024, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 19, 2024, 07:13:03 AMThe whole power rankings concept is a waste of time and effort.
A pointless discussion in a sea of pointless discussions.

By that measure most of the discussion here is pointless.
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bennydorano

Quote from: armaghniac on June 19, 2024, 10:36:36 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2024, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 19, 2024, 07:13:03 AMThe whole power rankings concept is a waste of time and effort.
A pointless discussion in a sea of pointless discussions.

By that measure most of the discussion here is pointless.
Yes, that was my point.

Milltown Row2

I think Antrim are doing well on that chart, I'll take the positives  ;)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

armaghniac

Quote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2024, 11:13:58 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 19, 2024, 10:36:36 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 19, 2024, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 19, 2024, 07:13:03 AMThe whole power rankings concept is a waste of time and effort.
A pointless discussion in a sea of pointless discussions.

By that measure most of the discussion here is pointless.
Yes, that was my point.

Sure it is all good craic.
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SouthOfThe Bann

James O'Donoghue still has Derry at 3 in his power ranking on the podcast last night.

Reckons they'll beat Mayo this weekend.

Armagh18

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on June 20, 2024, 09:18:07 AMJames O'Donoghue still has Derry at 3 in his power ranking on the podcast last night.

Reckons they'll beat Mayo this weekend.
3 after getting 2 tankings beat by Galway and scraping by Westmeath. He's got some faith in them