NFL Division 1 2024

[onefineday]

I see Mal McMullan tweeting the Galway Derry game has been moved to Salthill. Same throw in time.

Any idea why the change of venue?

They saw Derry's poor shooting in windy conditions on Sunday and felt salthill would present the same again - guaranteed!

[onefineday]

Would the league be even more important if  after provincial champs the seeding went by league standings.

It would obviously be more important but the reality is there is no way this will ever happen while the provincial councils have such a massive chunk of votes.

I think making is so that the provincial losers weren't the 2nd seeds would improve things some small bit.

We need the league to matter more and both suggestions above would help.

I see a few mentioning the importance of winning Ulster for Ulster sides, but I've been saying for a while, once people realise the futility of it, the allure will diminish and crowds will start to drop off. I'd like to see Derry win again this year, simply for 3 in a row, but they might be better served by an early exit. That said, there's definitely a few Ulster teams who really could do with that win - Donegal, Down and Armagh should all be focused on Ulster success.
As for Derry fans thinking Mickey is the missing element guaranteed to bring us Sam, I can assure you, there's plenty of us who think his last decade with Tyrone did them no favours and weren't in favour of his conservative approach coming to Derry - the jury is very definitely out, McKenna cup or not!!

[Blowitupref]

Would the league be even more important if  after provincial champs the seeding went by league standings.

It would obviously be more important but the reality is there is no way this will ever happen while the provincial councils have such a massive chunk of votes.

I think making is so that the provincial losers weren't the 2nd seeds would improve things some small bit.

We need the league to matter more and both suggestions above would help.

I see a few mentioning the importance of winning Ulster for Ulster sides, but I've been saying for a while, once people realise the futility of it, the allure will diminish and crowds will start to drop off. I'd like to see Derry win again this year, simply for 3 in a row, but they might be better served by an early exit. That said, there's definitely a few Ulster teams who really could do with that win - Donegal, Down and Armagh should all be focused on Ulster success.
As for Derry fans thinking Mickey is the missing element guaranteed to bring us Sam, I can assure you, there's plenty of us who think his last decade with Tyrone did them no favours and weren't in favour of his conservative approach coming to Derry - the jury is very definitely out, McKenna cup or not!!

Could also serve up as earlier than expected exit from the All Ireland championship. Not winning Ulster will likely mean Kerry,Dublin could be in Derry's group making it harder to top the group or could play one of them in the last 8.  Same schedule is in place as last year with the group winner given a week off before the quarter final and their opposition will face into their 3rd match in 3 weeks.

[An Watcher]

I know Tyrone weren't great last year but 3rd seeds did them no favours.  Kerry probably would have beaten them but not in the manner they did.  Tyrone were bucked n kerry were fresh.  There's always the possibility of not making an Ulster final and drawing the connacht champions I suppose but much easier to come through as provincial champions

[Eire90]

Bringing group stages into the all ireland might diminished the league a bit with before you may have only two championship games and one pre backdoor so the league was seen as the competition that you could fall back on if you had an ealrly exit from all ireland

[Maroon Manc]

I know Tyrone weren't great last year but 3rd seeds did them no favours.  Kerry probably would have beaten them but not in the manner they did.  Tyrone were bucked n kerry were fresh.  There's always the possibility of not making an Ulster final and drawing the connacht champions I suppose but much easier to come through as provincial champions

Mayo beat Kerry and Roscommon drew with Dublin in their first group games so that tells another tale.

[seafoid]

Bringing group stages into the all ireland might diminished the league a bit with before you may have only two championship games and one pre backdoor so the league was seen as the competition that you could fall back on if you had an ealrly exit from all ireland

One should never tear down something without knowing why it was built in the first place. GK Chesterton

[JoG2]

Would the league be even more important if  after provincial champs the seeding went by league standings.

It would obviously be more important but the reality is there is no way this will ever happen while the provincial councils have such a massive chunk of votes.

I think making is so that the provincial losers weren't the 2nd seeds would improve things some small bit.

We need the league to matter more and both suggestions above would help.

I see a few mentioning the importance of winning Ulster for Ulster sides, but I've been saying for a while, once people realise the futility of it, the allure will diminish and crowds will start to drop off. I'd like to see Derry win again this year, simply for 3 in a row, but they might be better served by an early exit. That said, there's definitely a few Ulster teams who really could do with that win - Donegal, Down and Armagh should all be focused on Ulster success.
As for Derry fans thinking Mickey is the missing element guaranteed to bring us Sam, I can assure you, there's plenty of us who think his last decade with Tyrone did them no favours and weren't in favour of his conservative approach coming to Derry - the jury is very definitely out, McKenna cup or not!!

I never understand this kind of thinking. It's the Ulster Championship ffs. The league is downplayed, McKenna mocked and now the provencial.
Talking about a team being better off out of Ulster as it might give your county a better shot at winning Sam..? I just can't understand this thinking. A tournament (All Ireland) that at the start of the year, 2 or 3 teams can realistically win.
I'd love to see Derry win Ulster again, and not just because it would be 3 in row, because it's the Ulster title, the best county in the province.
I'd love 6 or 7 in a row. If you're winning Ulster, you're not a million miles off...

[Armagh18]

Agree 100%. Would love Armagh to win Ulster this year and it would mean the world to both the squad and supporters.

[JoG2]

Agree 100%. Would love Armagh to win Ulster this year and it would mean the world to both the squad and supporters.

Clones, Ulster Final day. One of the great sporting occasions

[MC]

Would the league be even more important if  after provincial champs the seeding went by league standings.

It would obviously be more important but the reality is there is no way this will ever happen while the provincial councils have such a massive chunk of votes.

I think making is so that the provincial losers weren't the 2nd seeds would improve things some small bit.

We need the league to matter more and both suggestions above would help.

I see a few mentioning the importance of winning Ulster for Ulster sides, but I've been saying for a while, once people realise the futility of it, the allure will diminish and crowds will start to drop off. I'd like to see Derry win again this year, simply for 3 in a row, but they might be better served by an early exit. That said, there's definitely a few Ulster teams who really could do with that win - Donegal, Down and Armagh should all be focused on Ulster success.
As for Derry fans thinking Mickey is the missing element guaranteed to bring us Sam, I can assure you, there's plenty of us who think his last decade with Tyrone did them no favours and weren't in favour of his conservative approach coming to Derry - the jury is very definitely out, McKenna cup or not!!

I never understand this kind of thinking. It's the Ulster Championship ffs. The league is downplayed, McKenna mocked and now the provencial.
Talking about a team being better off out of Ulster as it might give your county a better shot at winning Sam..? I just can't understand this thinking. A tournament (All Ireland) that at the start of the year, 2 or 3 teams can realistically win.
I'd love to see Derry win Ulster again, and not just because it would be 3 in row, because it's the Ulster title, the best county in the province.
I'd love 6 or 7 in a row. If you're winning Ulster, you're not a million miles off...

Some think Harte kept a poor Tyrone team competitive for quite a few years when they had no right to be and with a few new quality additions they were just becoming really competitive again. The AI winning team could be described as Harte's team - although possibly with a bounce from new management - and a degree of luck, which all teams need. Harte also made huge improvements to Louth - Derry are probably hoping he can do similar with them - although incremental improvements often get harder and harder to achieve.

[greatpoint]

Bringing group stages into the all ireland might diminished the league a bit with before you may have only two championship games and one pre backdoor so the league was seen as the competition that you could fall back on if you had an ealrly exit from all ireland

One should never tear down something without knowing why it was built in the first place. GK Chesterton

The great Gaels of Ireland are the men that God made mad,
For all their wars are merry, and all their songs are sad.

[Rossfan]

All set for trip to Croker tomorrow.
Going by the number of injuries rumoured plus Donie suspended it could be a long evening.
Hopefully we can keep it tight throughout (and bore the TV audience) and who knows?

Those of ye into betting on lost causes it's apparently 9 to 1 Ros, 10 to 1 Draw.

[Wildweasel74]

Only 1 team can win a All-Ireland and that tends to be Dublin this weather. Best to compete for whatever else is on the table.

[Blowitupref]

Sean Kelly back a boost for Galway but still without the likes of Liam Slike,Damien Comer,Cillian McDaid,Shane Walsh.