The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[Angelo]

I see Fergal Harlin who is a Donegal man is linked with becoming Director of Football at Celtic. Currently works in a role at Man City that involves him finding loans for their youth players.

I do think a director of football is a good idea for Celtic.

[MK]

I see Fergal Harlin who is a Donegal man is linked with becoming Director of Football at Celtic. Currently works in a role at Man City that involves him finding loans for their youth players.

I do think a director of football is a good idea for Celtic.

Surely any half decent professional would'nt swap the top tier of football for the biscuit tin league

Kieran Mc Kenna has made quite a name for himself in club football-would he be a suitable coaching target?

[ned]

I see Fergal Harlin who is a Donegal man is linked with becoming Director of Football at Celtic. Currently works in a role at Man City that involves him finding loans for their youth players.

I do think a director of football is a good idea for Celtic.

Surely any half decent professional would'nt swap the top tier of football for the biscuit tin league

Kieran Mc Kenna has made quite a name for himself in club football-would he be a suitable coaching target?

Doubt Solskjaer would be considered for the Celtic job, not good enough pedigree.

[tonto1888]

"Tin pot club Everton" with their players/manager only interested in the money played out an entertaining 3-3 draw with Man Utd tonight.

Maybe it's just me, but they way the players celebrated the last minute equaliser they didn't strike me as players who don't give a f**k and are only playing for Everton for the money.

Cracking goal from the former Real Madrid player James Rodriguez. I'd say their small supporter base (they ONLY have 2.3 million twitter followers) must have enjoyed that.

Should have offered £140k and got James Rodrigues. Celtic can afford it sure.

Such a juvenile comment because you missed the point. If Celtic pay their best player 2m extra a year they keep him or at the very least they don't lose him for a derisory fee.

Instead we have a CEO who has desrtoyed the club drawing a salary of around 5m in one season.

Are you even a Celtic fan? All you seem to be saying is we are a small club who should not show any ambition whatsoever? Or are you just a bit sore of how it worked out for your local lad?

Your usual go to line about Lennon doesn't apply to me as I was always critical of Lennon getting the job. The small club line doesn't work with me either as I have stated numerous times that Celtic are much bigger than Everton and most of the premier league. What I am is realistic, you're looking to double Celtic's wage structure. A wage structure that is significantly bigger than the rest of the league. Celtic's reason for failure is because of shite management on the pitch and at board level. The dont need to pay double the wages and they can't afford to either. The worst team in the EPL gets significantly more money than Celtic from TV deals alone. Celtic can't afford to pay EPL wages.

How am I looking at doubling Celtic's wage structure?

I said we should pay Edouard his market worth. It's roughly 2m extra a year? That money can be saved by shifting deadwood out, by removing parasites who sit on the board and steal our resources, by utilising our 22m cash reserves, by our billionaire owner investing, by giving us the best chance of adding an extra 30-40m in revenue from the CL, by ensuring we get the market value on our best players when we sell them off rather than the farcical situation we now face with Edouard, Ajer and Christie.

65k is not EPL wages. 200k is.

Celtic are more than capable of paying these wages. You're just finding ways to excuse the biscuit tin mentality. CL football is an extra 40m in revenue. We will lose out about 40m this summer when we sell Ajer and Edouard at knockdown prices. If we paid them they're market rate we could get 70m for them when we decide to sell - we will be lucky to get 30m for the two of them next summer. That's the biscuit tin mentality you are advocating.

200k per week is hardly the norm in the premier league now is it

[Angelo]

"Tin pot club Everton" with their players/manager only interested in the money played out an entertaining 3-3 draw with Man Utd tonight.

Maybe it's just me, but they way the players celebrated the last minute equaliser they didn't strike me as players who don't give a f**k and are only playing for Everton for the money.

Cracking goal from the former Real Madrid player James Rodriguez. I'd say their small supporter base (they ONLY have 2.3 million twitter followers) must have enjoyed that.

Should have offered £140k and got James Rodrigues. Celtic can afford it sure.

Such a juvenile comment because you missed the point. If Celtic pay their best player 2m extra a year they keep him or at the very least they don't lose him for a derisory fee.

Instead we have a CEO who has desrtoyed the club drawing a salary of around 5m in one season.

Are you even a Celtic fan? All you seem to be saying is we are a small club who should not show any ambition whatsoever? Or are you just a bit sore of how it worked out for your local lad?

Your usual go to line about Lennon doesn't apply to me as I was always critical of Lennon getting the job. The small club line doesn't work with me either as I have stated numerous times that Celtic are much bigger than Everton and most of the premier league. What I am is realistic, you're looking to double Celtic's wage structure. A wage structure that is significantly bigger than the rest of the league. Celtic's reason for failure is because of shite management on the pitch and at board level. The dont need to pay double the wages and they can't afford to either. The worst team in the EPL gets significantly more money than Celtic from TV deals alone. Celtic can't afford to pay EPL wages.

How am I looking at doubling Celtic's wage structure?

I said we should pay Edouard his market worth. It's roughly 2m extra a year? That money can be saved by shifting deadwood out, by removing parasites who sit on the board and steal our resources, by utilising our 22m cash reserves, by our billionaire owner investing, by giving us the best chance of adding an extra 30-40m in revenue from the CL, by ensuring we get the market value on our best players when we sell them off rather than the farcical situation we now face with Edouard, Ajer and Christie.

65k is not EPL wages. 200k is.

Celtic are more than capable of paying these wages. You're just finding ways to excuse the biscuit tin mentality. CL football is an extra 40m in revenue. We will lose out about 40m this summer when we sell Ajer and Edouard at knockdown prices. If we paid them they're market rate we could get 70m for them when we decide to sell - we will be lucky to get 30m for the two of them next summer. That's the biscuit tin mentality you are advocating.

200k per week is hardly the norm in the premier league now is it

For the top earners I'd assume so for the majority of the clubs. Everton are paying their manager a figure in and around that.

[tonto1888]

According to the 2019 Global Sports Salary Survey, the average pay for top-flight players is £61,024 per week.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1265233/Premier-League-average-salary-player-wages-cut/amp
Average salary of around 60k per week which would mean, going by your figures, we would be paying Eddie a premier league salary

[Angelo]

According to the 2019 Global Sports Salary Survey, the average pay for top-flight players is £61,024 per week.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1265233/Premier-League-average-salary-player-wages-cut/amp
Average salary of around 60k per week which would mean, going by your figures, we would be paying Eddie a premier league salary

Yes average salary in the EPL

I'm talking about the best player in Scottish football.

How much do you think Celtic will have to pay to get a player of Edouard's calibre in?

If at the start of last season or this season, we got Ajer, Christie and Ajer in, sat them down and gave them the improved contracts they deserved then we would not be facing the prospect of losing them for about half what we should be getting for them this summer.

[tonto1888]

According to the 2019 Global Sports Salary Survey, the average pay for top-flight players is £61,024 per week.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1265233/Premier-League-average-salary-player-wages-cut/amp
Average salary of around 60k per week which would mean, going by your figures, we would be paying Eddie a premier league salary

Yes average salary in the EPL

I'm talking about the best player in Scottish football.

How much do you think Celtic will have to pay to get a player of Edouard's calibre in?

If at the start of last season or this season, we got Ajer, Christie and Ajer in, sat them down and gave them the improved contracts they deserved then we would not be facing the prospect of losing them for about half what we should be getting for them this summer.

So you're changing the goal posts now. First of all you said 65k per week is not EPL wages. It is.

[Angelo]

According to the 2019 Global Sports Salary Survey, the average pay for top-flight players is £61,024 per week.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1265233/Premier-League-average-salary-player-wages-cut/amp
Average salary of around 60k per week which would mean, going by your figures, we would be paying Eddie a premier league salary

Yes average salary in the EPL

I'm talking about the best player in Scottish football.

How much do you think Celtic will have to pay to get a player of Edouard's calibre in?

If at the start of last season or this season, we got Ajer, Christie and Ajer in, sat them down and gave them the improved contracts they deserved then we would not be facing the prospect of losing them for about half what we should be getting for them this summer.

So you're changing the goal posts now. First of all you said 65k per week is not EPL wages. It is.

Nope. I'm very much sticking to my guns. It is you who is misrepresenting what I said and trying to move the goal posts.

I want Celtic to pay the best player in Scotland 65k pw. The equivalent to the highest paid player in Scotland would be the highest paid player in England. Think that is De Gea who earns nearly 400k a week.

You also chose to ignore my question. How much will it cost us to replace Edouard with a player of his calibre. It's almost like you don't want to answer the question as it fundamentally undermines your argument.

[tonto1888]

According to the 2019 Global Sports Salary Survey, the average pay for top-flight players is £61,024 per week.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1265233/Premier-League-average-salary-player-wages-cut/amp
Average salary of around 60k per week which would mean, going by your figures, we would be paying Eddie a premier league salary

Yes average salary in the EPL

I'm talking about the best player in Scottish football.

How much do you think Celtic will have to pay to get a player of Edouard's calibre in?

If at the start of last season or this season, we got Ajer, Christie and Ajer in, sat them down and gave them the improved contracts they deserved then we would not be facing the prospect of losing them for about half what we should be getting for them this summer.

So you're changing the goal posts now. First of all you said 65k per week is not EPL wages. It is.

Nope. I'm very much sticking to my guns. It is you who is misrepresenting what I said and trying to move the goal posts.

I want Celtic to pay the best player in Scotland 65k pw. The equivalent to the highest paid player in Scotland would be the highest paid player in England. Think that is De Gea who earns nearly 400k a week.

You also chose to ignore my question. How much will it cost us to replace Edouard with a player of his calibre. It's almost like you don't want to answer the question as it fundamentally undermines your argument.

And what exactly is my argument? You said 65k per week isn't EPL wages but 200k is. 60k per week is EPL wages. So are advocating paying Eddie EPL wages. Thats  my only argument here

[Angelo]

According to the 2019 Global Sports Salary Survey, the average pay for top-flight players is £61,024 per week.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1265233/Premier-League-average-salary-player-wages-cut/amp
Average salary of around 60k per week which would mean, going by your figures, we would be paying Eddie a premier league salary

Yes average salary in the EPL

I'm talking about the best player in Scottish football.

How much do you think Celtic will have to pay to get a player of Edouard's calibre in?

If at the start of last season or this season, we got Ajer, Christie and Ajer in, sat them down and gave them the improved contracts they deserved then we would not be facing the prospect of losing them for about half what we should be getting for them this summer.

So you're changing the goal posts now. First of all you said 65k per week is not EPL wages. It is.

Nope. I'm very much sticking to my guns. It is you who is misrepresenting what I said and trying to move the goal posts.

I want Celtic to pay the best player in Scotland 65k pw. The equivalent to the highest paid player in Scotland would be the highest paid player in England. Think that is De Gea who earns nearly 400k a week.

You also chose to ignore my question. How much will it cost us to replace Edouard with a player of his calibre. It's almost like you don't want to answer the question as it fundamentally undermines your argument.

And what exactly is my argument? You said 65k per week isn't EPL wages but 200k is. 60k per week is EPL wages. So are advocating paying Eddie EPL wages. Thats  my only argument here

For top earners.

We are talking about the best player in Scotland, the player who I'd make the top earner in the league to keep him there and you are comparing that with the average EPL wage, average.

I am advocating playing the best player in Scotland an average EPL wage.

And once again, a point blank refusal from you to answer a question for the third time.

I'll try again.

How much do you think it will cost Celtic to replace a player of Edouard's calibre? Please answer this.

[tonto1888]

You said 65k isn't EPL wages. You've just been shown it is. You throw out random statements with no proof and just want people to accept them as fact.

[Angelo]

You said 65k isn't EPL wages. You've just been shown it is. You throw out random statements with no proof and just want people to accept them as fact.

Yes I did. For top earners.

The equivalence is giving the best player in Scotland average EPL wages.

We can take it that you have lost the argument now as you have refused to answer a question put to you on it on four separate occasions now.

[JimStynes]

You said 65k isn't EPL wages. You've just been shown it is. You throw out random statements with no proof and just want people to accept them as fact.

Yes I did. For top earners.

The equivalence is giving the best player in Scotland average EPL wages.

We can take it that you have lost the argument now as you have refused to answer a question put to you on it on four separate occasions now.

Like last week when I asked you on numerous occasions how you said Villa were a big club but then the next week you said the premier league was filled full of tinpot clubs.
Celtic shouldn't pay £65k as they can't afford it and they shouldn't need to as they're all ready significantly paying more than any other club. I do agree they should be paying more for a better manager. But Dermot Desmond doesn't pay anything more from his own pocket so Celtic as a club can't pay it. Once they're in the EPL or a European league with big tv money deals then they're going to have to be sensible with their money. They've 22million in the bank. That wouldn't be long going in you were in charge. Read the report on Celtic finances! They're not as great as you think.

[Angelo]

You said 65k isn't EPL wages. You've just been shown it is. You throw out random statements with no proof and just want people to accept them as fact.

Yes I did. For top earners.

The equivalence is giving the best player in Scotland average EPL wages.

We can take it that you have lost the argument now as you have refused to answer a question put to you on it on four separate occasions now.

Like last week when I asked you on numerous occasions how you said Villa were a big club but then the next week you said the premier league was filled full of tinpot clubs.
Celtic shouldn't pay £65k as they can't afford it and they shouldn't need to as they're all ready significantly paying more than any other club. I do agree they should be paying more for a better manager. But Dermot Desmond doesn't pay anything more from his own pocket so Celtic as a club can't pay it. Once they're in the EPL or a European league with big tv money deals then they're going to have to be sensible with their money. They've 22million in the bank. That wouldn't be long going in you were in charge. Read the report on Celtic finances! They're not as great as you think.

Villa have a history and tradition of a big club. Everton and West Hame don't.

Why can't they afford 65k? That's just a lie you are pedalling, they can afford it and I've given you a whole host of reasons they can afford it.

I'd say we will get half of what we should for Edouard, Ajer and Christie this summer

Edouard £15-20m - should be £40m
Ajer £8-10m - should be £20m
Christie £5-8m - should be £15m-20m

Why? Because we wanted to save £5-6m on wages. We now go into next season with loads of surgery to do on the squad because of the biscuit tin mentality. We have a billionaire owner, are debt free and have £20m sitting in the bank and you're telling me we can't afford to spend £5-6m extra on wages to retain our best players who at the very least will command a good fee when it comes to them being sold off.

Think of the missed CL revenue the past 3 seasons - that's around 100m in revenue the club has missed out on due to the biscuit tin mentaltity and hear you are advocating a strategy that has failed the club.

It defies belief and you guys are way out of touch with the Celtic fans on this because you feel loyal to the people who gave Lennon his chance.