The future of laois hurling

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This is a very good panel who did well at the Tony Forristal. I'd have high expectations of them as they have scoring forwards which are as scarce as hen's teeth. Pity McGrath is still involved. He'll strangle the talent out of them with his systems and sweepers.

[clonadmad]

This is a very good panel who did well at the Tony Forristal. I'd have high expectations of them as they have scoring forwards which are as scarce as hen's teeth. Pity McGrath is still involved. He'll strangle the talent out of them with his systems and sweepers.

The group who made the Tony Forristal semi final were last years team

This group was a lot weaker at that and subsequent ages.

Agree with you on Mcgrath

[Keyser Söze]

Can't see how having an experienced and successful (colleges, Waterford SHC, League Champions, All Ireland finalists) manager/coach is a bad thing. Ridiculous to be criticising this really. Every other county in the minor championship would be glad to have him involved.
I don't know anything about the manager appointed, but it's his job to manage and ensure we get the best from McGrath's involvement. I believe the players last year were impressed with what he brought.
We are not going to win an AI minor, unlikely we will win a Leinster minor. But some of these players will play Senior for Laois, almost all will play for their club's top team. Exposure to an experienced outside perspective and style cannot be a bad thing for their long term development.
There's more than one way to skin a cat, his usual approach is one. All part of their development.

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This is a very good panel who did well at the Tony Forristal. I'd have high expectations of them as they have scoring forwards which are as scarce as hen's teeth. Pity McGrath is still involved. He'll strangle the talent out of them with his systems and sweepers.

The group who made the Tony Forristal semi final were last years team

This group was a lot weaker at that and subsequent ages.

Agree with you on Mcgrath

Yeah i knew last years group got to the semi final but I thought this group beat one of Wexford/Limerick and lost narrowly to the other. Lost heavily to Cork alright

[clonadmad]

This is a very good panel who did well at the Tony Forristal. I'd have high expectations of them as they have scoring forwards which are as scarce as hen's teeth. Pity McGrath is still involved. He'll strangle the talent out of them with his systems and sweepers.

The group who made the Tony Forristal semi final were last years team

This group was a lot weaker at that and subsequent ages.

Agree with you on Mcgrath

Yeah i knew last years group got to the semi final but I thought this group beat one of Wexford/Limerick and lost narrowly to the other. Lost heavily to Cork alright

Wexford bet them by 5 points

Cork the eventual winners absolutely pulverized them

They bet Limerick by 3 points

Didnt get out of the group

[Keyser Söze]

Were they the first teams of Lim/Wex/Cork?

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This is a very good panel who did well at the Tony Forristal. I'd have high expectations of them as they have scoring forwards which are as scarce as hen's teeth. Pity McGrath is still involved. He'll strangle the talent out of them with his systems and sweepers.

The group who made the Tony Forristal semi final were last years team

This group was a lot weaker at that and subsequent ages.

Agree with you on Mcgrath

Yeah i knew last years group got to the semi final but I thought this group beat one of Wexford/Limerick and lost narrowly to the other. Lost heavily to Cork alright

Wexford bet them by 5 points

Cork the eventual winners absolutely pulverized them

They bet Limerick by 3 points

Didnt get out of the group

So that would be consecutive wins over Limerick in the Tony Forristal. That's not bad going. Limerick are seemingly way ahead of everyone listening to some people

[clonadmad]

This is a very good panel who did well at the Tony Forristal. I'd have high expectations of them as they have scoring forwards which are as scarce as hen's teeth. Pity McGrath is still involved. He'll strangle the talent out of them with his systems and sweepers.

The group who made the Tony Forristal semi final were last years team

This group was a lot weaker at that and subsequent ages.

Agree with you on Mcgrath

Yeah i knew last years group got to the semi final but I thought this group beat one of Wexford/Limerick and lost narrowly to the other. Lost heavily to Cork alright

Wexford bet them by 5 points

Cork the eventual winners absolutely pulverized them

They bet Limerick by 3 points

Didnt get out of the group

So that would be consecutive wins over Limerick in the Tony Forristal. That's not bad going. Limerick are seemingly way ahead of everyone listening to some people

Limerick haven't won a minor all ireland since 84, that could change whenever the 2020 season is finished but good nonetheless

IIRC we had a bad afternoon on frees against wexford and possibly deserved to have been a lot closer than what we were

Cork were freakishly big across both squads all of them 6ft and over, that year well able to hurl also

Won both the forristal and sonny walsh that year with their 2 squads

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Can't see how having an experienced and successful (colleges, Waterford SHC, League Champions, All Ireland finalists) manager/coach is a bad thing. Ridiculous to be criticising this really. Every other county in the minor championship would be glad to have him involved.
I don't know anything about the manager appointed, but it's his job to manage and ensure we get the best from McGrath's involvement. I believe the players last year were impressed with what he brought.
We are not going to win an AI minor, unlikely we will win a Leinster minor. But some of these players will play Senior for Laois, almost all will play for their club's top team. Exposure to an experienced outside perspective and style cannot be a bad thing for their long term development.
There's more than one way to skin a cat, his usual approach is one. All part of their development.

It's amazing to think that last year's management got slated for the loss to Offaly, yet the one part of that management most responsible is still part of the new management. His stupid playing style completely restricted a talented bunch who had done well up to him getting involved. He completely changed their style of play with backs trying to attack and good scoring forwards playing as sweepers instead of letting them play their natural game. The only thing he has achieved with this bunch is to turn a 52 point win over Offaly into a big loss. A complete disaster and he should have been fucked out on his ear. If he's that good why do lads who refused to hurl for Waterford under him continue to return to the panel now. A quick listen to him on the Sunday Game confirms what he really is, a complete bluffer.

[Keyser Söze]

His record and history stands up to scrutiny a little better than other elements of last years management.
The people who were "fucked out" might do well to reflect on their management over the 3-4 years leading up to 2020. It's been covered in detail here before.
I'd take DM's continued involvement over theirs.
From what I've heard, so would the players.

[Spiritof1915]

His record and history stands up to scrutiny a little better than other elements of last years management.
The people who were "fucked out" might do well to reflect on their management over the 3-4 years leading up to 2020. It's been covered in detail here before.
I'd take DM's continued involvement over theirs.
From what I've heard, so would the players.

I completely agree. This years management have no vested interest in how their sons will hurl. There all vibrant ex players who played to a high standard and are 'in there' i believe for the betterment of Laois hurling. This year takes on more significance after the complete and utter shitshow of last year.
As regards mc grath i believe he had no part in picking the panel or team for last years squad. So maybe he ll have a more hands on role this year. Its where he has excelled and made his name over the years.
2 examples of how bad last years management was.
- the corner forward replacing the corner back after 20 mins to man mark offalys most dangerous forward. . Unbelievable.
- laois had a player who marked said forward in 2 schools games to great effect but was left sitting at home because the manager didnt like him.

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His record and history stands up to scrutiny a little better than other elements of last years management.
The people who were "fucked out" might do well to reflect on their management over the 3-4 years leading up to 2020. It's been covered in detail here before.
I'd take DM's continued involvement over theirs.
From what I've heard, so would the players.

His record and history stands up to scrutiny a little better than other elements of last years management.
Is this the same management who achieved so much with this group before his arrival. A management who managed to beat Offaly out the gate on numerous occasions before he strangled the players.

The people who were "fucked out" might do well to reflect on their management over the 3-4 years leading up to 2020. It's been covered in detail here before.
They brought on a talented group to achieve their potential resulting in Laois hurling's biggest achievement in years

I'd take DM's continued involvement over theirs.
That's your opinion, no problem, but I disagree with you.

From what I've heard, so would the players.
Not any players or their parents that i know, but shur maybe we just hear different things.

[Keyser Söze]

They brought on a talented group to achieve their potential resulting in Laois hurling's biggest achievement in years

Sounds like some failure of management? To bring somebody in as part of your coaching team in order to get a job. And then to stand idly by as they proceeded to strangle the life out of a group you were personally responsible for "coaching" to a high performing level up to that point.
Very poor management.
Very poor.
Not good enough.

[finbar o tool]

They brought on a talented group to achieve their potential resulting in Laois hurling's biggest achievement in years

Sounds like some failure of management? To bring somebody in as part of your coaching team in order to get a job. And then to stand idly by as they proceeded to strangle the life out of a group you were personally responsible for "coaching" to a high performing level up to that point.
Very poor management.
Very poor.
Not good enough.

Absolutely. Spot. On. 👏🏻

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They brought on a talented group to achieve their potential resulting in Laois hurling's biggest achievement in years

Sounds like some failure of management? To bring somebody in as part of your coaching team in order to get a job. And then to stand idly by as they proceeded to strangle the life out of a group you were personally responsible for "coaching" to a high performing level up to that point.
Very poor management.
Very poor.
Not good enough.

Interesting deflection but at least you're accepting what the problem is.