Boxing Thread

[Atticus_Finch]

Trying to explain away Fury beating Klitch so cleanly as the Ukrainian being injured is a serious attempt to diminish what Fury did. It's like creating alternative facts just because you don't like the story that the actual events tell.

It was the size of Fury and his ability to use that size that completely destroyed Klitchko's one dimensional, defensively paranoid slap-fighting style that was entirely predicated on him being the bigger man with the reach advantage. I'm still amazed he got away with pawing smaller fighters for so long. Very poor refereeing on that point. Once he lost those advantages and someone could pick him off from range his wobbly defense was highlighted as it was many times earlier in his career.

People tend to gloss over the inescapable fact that most of the fighters he beat on his run were junk by the standards of any other era of heavyweight boxing. He was built up as a great champion when in reality he was just someone who came along at a great time for his set of talents to be utilised.

Chief, do me a favour and don't talk about alternative facts and inventing stories.  I've read some of your contributions on the Paddy Jackson thread.

Wilder is barely a boxer ?  Very good !

No one would dispute that Klitschko's reign came at a time when the heavyweight division was barren, at the end of the day he can only beat what's put in front of him, his performance against Joshua (when he was well past his prime) is more reflective of his ability than when i felt he was (rightly or wrongly) injured against Fury. I noticed you neglected to mention that.

[Syferus]

Trying to explain away Fury beating Klitch so cleanly as the Ukrainian being injured is a serious attempt to diminish what Fury did. It's like creating alternative facts just because you don't like the story that the actual events tell.

It was the size of Fury and his ability to use that size that completely destroyed Klitchko's one dimensional, defensively paranoid slap-fighting style that was entirely predicated on him being the bigger man with the reach advantage. I'm still amazed he got away with pawing smaller fighters for so long. Very poor refereeing on that point. Once he lost those advantages and someone could pick him off from range his wobbly defense was highlighted as it was many times earlier in his career.

People tend to gloss over the inescapable fact that most of the fighters he beat on his run were junk by the standards of any other era of heavyweight boxing. He was built up as a great champion when in reality he was just someone who came along at a great time for his set of talents to be utilised.

Chief, do me a favour and don't talk about alternative facts and inventing stories.  I've read some of your contributions on the Paddy Jackson thread.

Wilder is barely a boxer ?  Very good !

No one would dispute that Klitschko's reign came at a time when the heavyweight division was barren, at the end of the day he can only beat what's put in front of him, his performance against Joshua (when he was well past his prime) is more reflective of his ability than when i felt he was (rightly or wrongly) injured against Fury. I noticed you neglected to mention that.

We're done here. I see the place you're coming from clear enough now.

[Captain Black]

Why do we need a discussion forum when syf knows everything better than everyone else?

[Wildweasel74]

Fury has plently of skills and movement for a big man but not knock out power a man of his size should have! His attitude to the sports baffles me! Wouldnt put in the hard yards and diet to get to the level required at this level! He reminds me if Riddick Bowe eating exploits and problems with his waist line minus the knock out power of course! Fury beat very few boxers in his current condition

[Milltown Row2]

Trying to explain away Fury beating Klitch so cleanly as the Ukrainian being injured is a serious attempt to diminish what Fury did. It's like creating alternative facts just because you don't like the story that the actual events tell.

It was the size of Fury and his ability to use that size that completely destroyed Klitchko's one dimensional, defensively paranoid slap-fighting style that was entirely predicated on him being the bigger man with the reach advantage. I'm still amazed he got away with pawing smaller fighters for so long. Very poor refereeing on that point. Once he lost those advantages and someone could pick him off from range his wobbly defense was highlighted as it was many times earlier in his career.

People tend to gloss over the inescapable fact that most of the fighters he beat on his run were junk by the standards of any other era of heavyweight boxing. He was built up as a great champion when in reality he was just someone who came along at a great time for his set of talents to be utilised.

Chief, do me a favour and don't talk about alternative facts and inventing stories.  I've read some of your contributions on the Paddy Jackson thread.

Wilder is barely a boxer ?  Very good !

No one would dispute that Klitschko's reign came at a time when the heavyweight division was barren, at the end of the day he can only beat what's put in front of him, his performance against Joshua (when he was well past his prime) is more reflective of his ability than when i felt he was (rightly or wrongly) injured against Fury. I noticed you neglected to mention that.

We're done here. I see the place you're coming from clear enough now.

You're a rape apologists Atticus... anyone who dared say anything different to doofus is a fool!

[LooseCannon]

David Haye retired.

[Tony Baloney]

Canelo v GGG confirmed 15 Sep

[Jim Bob]

When would tickets go on sale for Windsor on 18th August ?

[lurganblue]

Canelo v GGG confirmed 15 Sep

has BJS been shafted?

[Taylor]

Canelo v GGG confirmed 15 Sep

has BJS been shafted?

Hopefully.
The stunt he pulled on Murray was a disgrace

[nrico2006]

He was never going to get the fight anyway, everyone and their dog knew it would be GGG v Alvarez in September, sure the flipping suspension was even tailored to allow it to happen in line with the Mexican Independence Day celebrations.

[omaghjoe]

He was never going to get the fight anyway, everyone and their dog knew it would be GGG v Alvarez in September, sure the flipping suspension was even tailored to allow it to happen in line with the Mexican Independence Day celebrations.

Saunders should have taken any offer he got in the past year... cos with GGG stripped of the IBF, unification is no longer GGG's top priority and that means Saunder's stock just dropped.

Couldn't happen to a nicer fella

[Atticus_Finch]

Frampton's opponent for the Windsor Park fight is due to be unveiled on Monday. 

The press conference was due to be last Wednesday, Warren didn't give a reason why that didn't take place but it seems that there was a good chance it was caused after the social media backlash suggested unveiling Luke Jackson as Frampton's Windsor opponent wasn't going to go down well.  Not sure if the extra few days will make any difference to getting a better opponent but in an ideal world Warren has gone back to Warrington and chucked some more money at him as well as a guaranteed rematch at Elland road if he agrees to the Windsor fight. Not looking likely though.

Some boxing on sky sports tonight which could prove to be interesting.

Belfast's Paul Hyland jr fights Lewis Ritson in the chief support fight to Josh Kelly vs Kris George.   Ritson has earned a bit of a reputation as a KO machine after his last number of fights in impressive fashion by early KO.  As a result he's been installed as the big favourite.   The bookies have Hyland jr at odds of 7 and 8/1 in places.  I think that's value, I've watched Hyland jr a number of times in Belfast and have always been impressed by his movement.  There's no doubt he would have to be at the top of his game to beat Ritson but I don't see this as the easy KO for Ritson as many envisage.  Hyland can take a punch, he sustained a broken jaw in the 8th round against Stephen Ormond and and saw out the fight to the final bell to claim a disputed decision.  I like the look of the fight to go the distance (priced at 3/1 generally) expecting Hyland to box and move and be wary of Ritson's power.   Ritson only made weight at the second time of asking. I could be wrong , wouldn't be the first or last time ;-) but I just get the sense that Ritson is coming into this fight very complacent and is not giving Hyland the respect he deserves.  Another example of this is he is already talking about having his next fight at St James Park (he's a Geordie) and selling it out.   Ring walk is expectedly to be on roughly about 9pm on Sky Sports Action.

[Atticus_Finch]

When would tickets go on sale for Windsor on 18th August ?

This Friday.

[Atticus_Finch]

Hyland gets stopped in the first round !  Feel like deleting that earlier post lol.  As soon as Ritson landed the first jab, Hyland was rocked.  Ritson's power just looked level above. He might be something special.