Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Up The Middle]

If he wants a top job again at a top club then he has done his chances harm, because all the top clubs would be striving to win championships and give Ulster a rattle. All the top teams will look at this and be thinking if he walked out on Errigal then he will walk out on us.

I'm sure Errigal agreed at the start of the year because they thought the chances of it happening would be extremely slim, i cant imagine that they ever thought when it came too the bit he would turn his back on them and walk away.

Could he not still have trained them for the 2 weeks and not went too the game on the Sunday (i still wouldn't agree with this, but its better than not been seen at all for 2 weeks)

Will he go to the game? If so will he cheer on Ballinderry?

Its a shame cause he seems like a nice guy, but i think he has let himself down with his actions however admirable some people think they are.

[EC Unique]

If he wants a top job again at a top club then he has done his chances harm, because all the top clubs would be striving to win championships and give Ulster a rattle. All the top teams will look at this and be thinking if he walked out on Errigal then he will walk out on us.

I'm sure Errigal agreed at the start of the year because they thought the chances of it happening would be extremely slim, i cant imagine that they ever thought when it came too the bit he would turn his back on them and walk away.

Could he not still have trained them for the 2 weeks and not went too the game on the Sunday (i still wouldn't agree with this, but its better than not been seen at all for 2 weeks)

Will he go to the game? If so will he cheer on Ballinderry?

Its a shame cause he seems like a nice guy, but i think he has let himself down with his actions however admirable some people think they are.

Totally agree!

[Bonkers09]

The chances of this scenario occurring at the beginning of the year are slim. Errigal could have been any of 7/8 teams to win Tyrone, which in itself is a great achievement. Then for Ballinderry to win Derry, and the two to be drawn against each other in Ulster (9 teams and for the two to meet).  Back in December when they approached him like any true Gael he stated his reluctance to go against his own club  (whatever the slim chances of this happening) if the opportunity presented itself.  The Errigal committee who  hadn't seen there side progress past a QF in 4 years never mind win a championship were probably more than likely to accept McGuckin's stance as a case of 'we'll cross that bridge if we ever come to it'.  Football in places like Ballinderry means much more than what some may think. Unless your Paul McIvor 

[Up The Middle]

The chances of this scenario occurring at the beginning of the year are slim. Errigal could have been any of 7/8 teams to win Tyrone, which in itself is a great achievement. Then for Ballinderry to win Derry, and the two to be drawn against each other in Ulster (9 teams and for the two to meet).  Back in December when they approached him like any true Gael he stated his reluctance to go against his own club  (whatever the slim chances of this happening) if the opportunity presented itself.  The Errigal committee who  hadn't seen there side progress past a QF in 4 years never mind win a championship were probably more than likely to accept McGuckin's stance as a case of 'we'll cross that bridge if we ever come to it'.  Football in places like Ballinderry means much more than what some may think. Unless your Paul McIvor

Dont talk crap.

Why would football mean more to someone from Ballinderry than it would for someone from Ballaghy or Errigal or any other club in the country. The fact that people see this as a noble act really baffles me, Paul McIvor did the right thing in my book,  he took a job and he saw it through till its conclusion, he didn't throw the towel in at the first sign of adversity, as i stated before McGuckin could have trained the squad and not took his place along the line. Did Paul McIvor really do his reputation damage by managing against his own club, i doubt it very much.

[rrhf]

I remeber yrs ago when errigal played donaghmore in a championship match and paudge quinn was managing donaghmore. Some errigal people were not happy thta one of their own could take a team against errigal. If mcguckin said to the errigal committee at the start of the year that he would not manage against his own club, the there is no issue. Fair play to him. I think its the right thing to do, as long as the committee knew at the start of the year.

Yeah remember something about this, there was serious stick given to him & Leo, such irony

[EC Unique]

I remeber yrs ago when errigal played donaghmore in a championship match and paudge quinn was managing donaghmore. Some errigal people were not happy thta one of their own could take a team against errigal. If mcguckin said to the errigal committee at the start of the year that he would not manage against his own club, the there is no issue. Fair play to him. I think its the right thing to do, as long as the committee knew at the start of the year.

Yeah remember something about this, there was serious stick given to him & Leo, such irony

Were Errigal championship pedigree that year RRHF?

[rrhf]

I think you were beat by Carmen in the final

[Hotrocks]

EC how come you lie .  He has been at training all week.

[Norf Tyrone]

Clann Na nGael beat Strabane by 3 or 4. Don't think Strabane scored in the 2nd half IIRC.

[Pragmatist]

I am now convinced that the naysayers have been right all along. For years I tried to promote the idea that we can improve players' decision-making on and off the ball, their movement off the ball, their positional sense, their timing of runs and their abilities to adapt to different game plans and attacking options. The truth is that for 90% of players we cannot!!
They bring with them their own inbuilt cerebral limitations for these skills and we can labour for as long as we want and convince ourselves we see glimmers of hope, but the fact is that they will revert to type more often than not.
Just get them as fit as possible, as well-conditioned as possible and as technically proficient as possible and forget the rest.

[EC Unique]

EC how come you lie .  He has been at training all week.

??

Errigal beat Derrylaughan to gain a place in the league play offs.

[winghalfback]

I am now convinced that the naysayers have been right all along. For years I tried to promote the idea that we can improve players' decision-making on and off the ball, their movement off the ball, their positional sense, their timing of runs and their abilities to adapt to different game plans and attacking options. The truth is that for 90% of players we cannot!!
They bring with them their own inbuilt cerebral limitations for these skills and we can labour for as long as we want and convince ourselves we see glimmers of hope, but the fact is that they will revert to type more often than not.
Just get them as fit as possible, as well-conditioned as possible and as technically proficient as possible and forget the rest.

You cant train a donkey to win the derby this much is true. However if you want to achieve the results you are after then the work has to start at under 8 10 and 12 level not at senior level and hope the player an change. The top clubs in Tyrone and throughout Ireland are the results of years of work at underage levels bringing up lads and lasses playing football the right way. Its about training the brain and muscle memory to do the right thing cos its the right thing to do, sure you get players who are special and others that are individuals but in essence they will still be team players. Errigal won the senior championship this year with a team that come up more or less together and were taught the right way Coalisland are another example of this Clonoe Dromore Cookstown Omagh are all the same. Teams up and coming that will be achieving success in the future with this youth structure in place will be the likes of owen roes moortown and stewartstown.

[blewuporstuffed]

when are these playoff games likely to be now? next weekend?

[ONeill]

This Hill lost their captain and full back to a broken collar bone. Really bad news. They were capable of giving the division 1 status a quare rattle. Not as likely now.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

I think Sigersons scored a solitary point in the 2nd half Norf, and revenge will be sweet ONeill, early excuses or not (though best of luck to your captain)!