Armagh v Derry Official Thread

bigpaul · July 09, 2007, 07:52:55 PM

I can't speak for anyone else, but I formed my opinion over the previous six months!

Armamike · July 09, 2007, 07:54:21 PM

QuoteIt's going to take a while - i don't see armagh having tyrone's conveyor belt and replacing the likes of mc geeney and mc grane - mc conville will be difficult.

I would think any county would stuggle to replace players of that standard. Tyrone's 'conveyor belt' is overstated. There is a consistently good level of talent coming through but do you think the likes of Canavan, O'Neill, McGuigan, Dooher, Jordan and Cavanagh will be easy replaced? The younger lads coming through will have a lot to live up to.

pintsofguinness · July 09, 2007, 07:56:14 PM

QuoteI can't speak for anyone else, but I formed my opinion over the previous six months!

And what comments did I make that made you form that opinion?

bigpaul · July 09, 2007, 08:00:19 PM

I don't have access to all your posts pints, but that is the impression I got.

pintsofguinness · July 09, 2007, 08:06:27 PM

You've access to all my posts through my profile.

But you and exile can go ahead making stupid unfounded allegations if you want.
There's posters saying bad things about Joe in the Local section of the board maybe you want to go and make the same allegations against them!

bigpaul · July 09, 2007, 08:12:05 PM

I have absolutely no problem defending any Kernan! It's an easy assignment really, their record speaks for itself!

Uladh · July 09, 2007, 09:19:15 PM

Quote from: INDIANA on July 09, 2007, 07:19:58 PM
If he was called Stephen Smith there wouldn't be a problem .

There'd be no problem... he wouldn't be on the county panel

INDIANA · July 09, 2007, 10:58:38 PM

I would think any county would stuggle to replace players of that standard. Tyrone's 'conveyor belt' is overstated. There is a consistently good level of talent coming through but do you think the likes of Canavan, O'Neill, McGuigan, Dooher, Jordan and Cavanagh will be easy replaced? The younger lads coming through will have a lot to live

but you can see the next generation- tommy mcguigan-niall gormley-colm cavanagh-raymond mulgrew etc etc- i'm not saying armagh don't have a next generation but nobody has seen them and i'm not sure they're in tyrone's league.

pintsofguinness · July 09, 2007, 11:34:14 PM

QuotePerhaps the Hogan success of Abbey may help Armagh and Down.

Was there not only two or three of that team from armagh?
McGarvey and Dyas were two, who else?

corn02 · July 09, 2007, 11:37:30 PM

Young James Shannon and Cailaim Quinn from Mullaghbawn were on the squad but I am near sure Dyas and McGarvey were the only Armagh 'starters'. Interesting to see the two main men from the respective teams Dyas and O Rourke getting thrown into the spotlight on the same weekend.

ONeill · July 09, 2007, 11:40:48 PM

Don't forget Cavanagh and Jordan etc were Armagh college men!

Goats Do Shave · July 10, 2007, 08:03:52 AM

Quote from: ONeill on July 09, 2007, 11:40:48 PM
Don't forget Cavanagh and Jordan etc were Armagh college men!

Both Cavanaghs, Jordan, Mellon, Cormac....

& 2 Harte's & Devine now teach in the college! (& Big Mattie!)

HalfFitHalfBack · July 10, 2007, 12:17:44 PM

Quite a few Armagh lads played with St Patrick's Academy Dungannon. Lads from clubs like Maghery, Clonmore, Annaghmore, Collegeland would go to school in Dungannon.

AFAIK Lavery, Donaghy and Forker were all pupils at St Pats Academy Dungannon.

armaghniac · July 11, 2007, 12:04:04 AM

Having just watched this on Setanta and just now returned to GAABoard, being unable to face it, her is my 2c worth. This might have been a close game with a narrow Armagh victory, which I hoped for on Saturday. When we got going in the second half we didn't press home our advantage and dissipated it with silly mistakes, balls over the sideline and so on as the second half went on. There were silly mistakes in the first half too and a an extra point at this stage might have been enough. The 5 week layoff might not have been to our advantage.

I don't think the ref robbed us, this was more true in Ballybofey. Keenan was certainly fouled near the end, but the ball spilled and he got it again, before then losing it. This could have been an attempt at advantage. Keenan should have hung on the second time, having already done the hard work, but the Derry backs were effective. He also ballooned a shot a few minutes later. Ronan Clarke would have done better in this situation.

QuoteIt's just a thought from an Armagh person looking outwards from Tyrone with a level of dispair for the future and a memory stretching back to my first league match in the Athletics Ground in 1967 which was delayed while Armagh looked for enough players to field a viable team!

TYP I came on board the Armagh supporters bus as a 1977 bandwagoner. After that period Armagh at their worst never fell back to the problems of the decade before. That period brought us the likes of McAlinden and Big Joe who have lead us into a period of much greater success. Hopefully the higher standards of recent years have left attitudes in Armagh which can ensure success.

Armamike · July 11, 2007, 12:58:41 AM

Watched it on Setanta myself and a few observations. Poor standard of football from both sides. On Sunday i thought young Toner was harshly treated being subbed, but watching it again on tv, he was badly caught in possession a few times, which led to a score or 2 for Derry. He will probably learn a lot from this though. McConville wasn't up to the pace at all, just wasn't able to get out in front of his marker. If Clarke had been playing we would have won the game with a few points to spare. Derry should never have been in with a shout of winning the game with a few minutes to go. Dyas will be a great player in years to come.