Armagh v Derry Official Thread

[Loup Bandit]

Have you Derry wans seen the video of a Loup man diving into the urinal at Casement? Yeuk!

Whats this all about?  i aint seen it anyway but now you have mentioned it i'll be sure to get hold of it this weekend!

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

Slightly disappointed in the team selected. We don't have a lot of options in the forwards without Clarke and Mallon but I still think we could shuffle a decks a little better.

On the goalie arguement, I've always thought McKinney was shockin unlucky last year not to playa gainst Kerry. Effectively he was dropped because his da died. Although in fairness Hearty did well when he came in. I'd slightly prefer McKinney but don't think there's that much in the difference.

[lurganblue]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4LO-jh8XwNI

a bit like this loup bandit

[Louis the Red]

McKinney is getting married on Wednesday and is going on honeymoon for a few weeks.  Thats probably why JK is keeping Hearty is for Sunday.

[lynchbhoy]

cannot believe you armagh lads
you have a manager that has full exp of playing at top level
a manager who has done it at club level on a few occassions
a boss who has won the AI and was unlucky to win a couple more
but yet
you wish to get rid of the likes of francie and Kernan
are you lads f**king mental
most of the country would love to be in your position

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

In fairness Lynchbhoy, Francie is injured and i dont there's too many armagh supporters on here who doubt that Francie's been a great servant and well worth his place since 2002 and a deserving All Star.

As for Kernan, it depends which one. aaron is an ecellent footballer, Stephen shouldn't be on the Armagh starting XV in my opinion. That said, who am I to argue with a man who has 4 All Ireland wins as a manager.

On Joe, personally I think he took Armagh to All Ireland sucess when very few could have lifted Armagh from the point they were in after the Glaway defeat in 01. Aidan O'Rourke was consoled by a Galway player after that match with words "Sure you'll be back next year." Aidan turned round to him and replied "Na, we're finished". To take a team that thinks its finished itself to All Ireland success in 12 months is some achievement.

Personally I continue to think Joe Kernan is the best man for the managers job but I accept that there have been some decisions made since 02 that people find hard to understand and have the right to criticise. Three that stand out are persisting with Clarke at right half forward during 03, taking McGeeney off in the 05 semi final and starting a player in the 06 and 07 Ulster Championships who can't nail down a place in his club.

People will criticise and no doubt Joe's fit to handle it but when you follow your county up and down the country your entitled your opinion. Thats not a free reign to fire personal abuse but there is a right to constructive criticism. It happens in every county and there's not a thing wrong with it.

[lynchbhoy]

In fairness Lynchbhoy, Francie is injured and i dont there's too many armagh supporters on here who doubt that Francie's been a great servant and well worth his place since 2002 and a deserving All Star.

As for Kernan, it depends which one. aaron is an ecellent footballer, Stephen shouldn't be on the Armagh starting XV in my opinion. That said, who am I to argue with a man who has 4 All Ireland wins as a manager.

On Joe, personally I think he took Armagh to All Ireland sucess when very few could have lifted Armagh from the point they were in after the Glaway defeat in 01. Aidan O'Rourke was consoled by a Galway player after that match with words "Sure you'll be back next year." Aidan turned round to him and replied "Na, we're finished". To take a team that thinks its finished itself to All Ireland success in 12 months is some achievement.

Personally I continue to think Joe Kernan is the best man for the managers job but I accept that there have been some decisions made since 02 that people find hard to understand and have the right to criticise. Three that stand out are persisting with Clarke at right half forward during 03, taking McGeeney off in the 05 semi final and starting a player in the 06 and 07 Ulster Championships who can't nail down a place in his club.

People will criticise and no doubt Joe's fit to handle it but when you follow your county up and down the country your entitled your opinion. Thats not a free reign to fire personal abuse but there is a right to constructive criticism. It happens in every county and there's not a thing wrong with it.

to a certain extent I agree with you
but
as a manager, you will have some ideas and notions that some folk will not see or believe
thats football and thats part of being a manager
its thes little variations from the accepted and expected  norm that make the diff between a successful team and the Derry;s of this world

I think you lads dont know how lucky you are

[loughshore lad]

I actually think Derry could cause an upset here. Derry have plenty of weaknesses but are capable of raising their game for Armagh. After the Donegal game Armagh got a lot of good press but at the end of the day they were defeated by a Donegal team who subsequently went on to flop against Tyrone. The jury is still out on Armagh and they will need to be on their game to win this one.

[pintsofguinness]

I actually think Derry could cause an upset here. Derry have plenty of weaknesses but are capable of raising their game for Armagh. After the Donegal game Armagh got a lot of good press but at the end of the day they were defeated by a Donegal team who subsequently went on to flop against Tyrone. The jury is still out on Armagh and they will need to be on their game to win this one.

Am I the only one that wouldnt see a Derry win as an "upset"?

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

Am I the only one that wouldnt see a Derry win as an "upset"?

Well I think we deserve to be slight favourites but no more than that. Just like during the National League, the odds on Armagh are ridiculous. 4/9 is very short. I'd have us closer to 4/6.

[Uladh]

Am I the only one that wouldnt see a Derry win as an "upset"?

No, i'm half expecting it

[stew]

Armagh 2-13 Derry 1-10.

[armaghniac]

Armagh 2-13 Derry 1-10.

Stew, it is hard to see Armagh scoring 2-13, if Derry get 1-10 Armagh fans will be concerned. I think we can win here, the McGeeneys and McGranes didn't stay on the team to get knocked out of the championship after 2 straight defeats. If Derry put it up to us and we win by a point that will a reasonable result for all concerned, Derry will have their pride back and there won't be big talk about Armagh. Ideally someone like Donegal, Mayo or Meath will have a big win and keep the heat off us. 

[thebandit]

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I think you lads dont know how lucky you are

Well put

[corn02]

The way I look at it lads, that is a team that should have more than one All- Ireland.