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Yeah I see where you're coming from - my only counter would be that most of the best players you see coming out of the south west seem to have went to derry schools which I doubt is coincidence in terms of mindset / coaching etc. That's how it shouldn't be mind you...

Surely getting trained in the derry schools is doing them good not harm...

I always found it strange and I share your doubts. That's not dangerous - I know if I was wrongly accused of something heinous I'd be proclaiming my innocence from the get go.

What's dangerous is to assume that just because you'd do something, someone else would do the same.

I can perfectly understand the logic of someone, if innocent, either being advised or deciding to engage with allegations such as the ones RG faced/continues to face as little as possible.

The fact he apparently chose not to outright deny the allegations in 2023 should in no way be considered suspicious or incriminating, as some on here would have you believe.

It's a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario.

The sad thing is here that we could be looking at being the worst team in Ireland in the very near future if something doesn't change...

None of what Burns did was anything to do with safeguarding or anything to do with RG being a manager....

There is no pro Gallagher crowd. You're trying to make the debate binary. It's not.

One of them started on at least one ulster championship winning teamm so at one point he surely wouldn't have been too bad? I would imagine tbf to them the whole thing would be quite an upheaval to them too.

I don't think anyone is defending him though. The thing is Burns went on a solo run. In any of these threads that involve legalities I always find the poster David McKeown a great voice of reason.

What Burns did wrt Gallagher was wrong. Any self respecting club or county shouldn't have him about the place. It's ok to hold both views. The thing people are defending is where do you draw the line with people who are not found guilty in a court of law and you set a precedent which you basically can't adhere to or you make very difficult to adhere to. What should happen in this scenario is that it should be discretionary for the club or county to "employ" him and then you have to ask if you were from one of these clubs of counties would you want him about the place.

Tbh the bit that got my goat up a bit was that one poster seemed to be trivialising what a player did when he maimed a young woman when he was drunk driving and it was being palmed off as innocuous and nothing like what Gallagher was alleged to be guilty of. He has admitted guilt in the courts and is to go to trial. However poster was willing to give him a bye ball but Gallagher not.

If these boys were that good would they not be starring for st brigids? Maybe I'm missing it but doesn't seem that they are?

We have the players to be more competitive than we were against Kildare though sometimes I think we can be an arrogant bunch and think we are better than counties like Kildare when we have nothing to say that we are at all...

Davy always sets up like that regardless of who he manages or usually the players he has.

That must be some kind of record. Madness.

Burns comes out of it very badly and I doubt he'd do the same thing again.

Anyone courting him comes out badly too but Burns comes out badly.

There were(county)  management setups where the manager knew some of the backroom team through sharing a cell in Maghaberry....

I get the stuff round RG but you're going for the safeguarding thing here. Was Burns's problem, or anyone's problem, safeguarding? I really don't think it was.

There's a McCormick cup for reserve/ junior teams.

Ever since the league moved from starting in september to the new year the deman has been much greater. Even the mckenna cup had a load of interest.

Plus in reality the championship will be won by at most a handful of teams. The league will have teams competing against comparable other teams.