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I never understand why the West vociferously supports regions such as Kosovo in their battles for independece, but when it comes to a region that has close ties with Russia, they're strangely silent. The Cold War is over 20 years!

Wazzas post

the neighbours surrounding my house wear gaa tops, and i live on the cregagh road and to be honest i find it very repulsing

Wazza's post isn't the issue here, I've said several times that he was widely condemned. My outrage stemmed from the fact that someone tried to score cheap points by using the issue of teen suicide in an attack against Sinn Fein.

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You should say that to humpy or Caran Barr!

Again, Ciaran Barr didn't need an All-Star to let everyone know he was one of the best hurlers in the country, it was just accepted. Perhaps grudgingly in places, but accepted. Bit like Kevin McGourty in football, ya know.........

Perhaps it could be taken as a "threat" against the forum, but I did advise that the thread be closely moderated. Later on, I was asked by Marty if it was a "theat", and I said that no, it was just some "friendly advice". If there was any hint of a "threat" I would have been banned immediately and would have had no issues with it.

Soory glensman, I was just going on the basis of your first post, I haven't looked at the thread in OWC, this is what you said..

However I decided that it would be wise to point out (due to the minority of mouthpieces on the OWC board who would have no interest in debate, but merely give me abuse or call me "IRA supporting scum") that any sort of personal abuse directed against me or my close associates would be taken very seriously.

I only saw Chris' post afterwards. I still think it's very strangely worded, and the 'Friendly advice' comment is also a bit odd, I can see where they might think you were insinuating something, even if you weren't.

And of course I meant to say 'terrorist supporting', not 'terrorist'. That was a typo.

Fair enough, I still think the most obvious train of thought would have been legal consequences, not bullet in the knee consequences. Maybe I'm too optimistic about the mindset of the modern day Northerner. Obviously OWC and it's admins/mods don't want any legal trouble whatsoever which is why I advised the the thread be closely moderated (something Chris kindly left out of his quote), to save ALL parties embarrassment.

I dont have a problem
You saw fit to comment on gallsman getting banned but refused to say anything about your fellow OWCers comments.
Speaks volumes

I saw fit???  

The thread is titled Attention OWCers and poses the question about why should gallsman should be banned.  I gave my opinion on that.

If you have any direct quotes that you want me to condemn or otherwise post them up.

You gave your opinion and I've offered a response. Would you care to comment on it? I initially intended to PM my main post but was then yapped and said "fcuk it, I may as well". You've read the thread andhave seen that there were varying amounts of personal information offered up which, if someone really really wanted, could lead to my being identified. I was thinking of the types of poster, like the aformentioned wazza, who may have been tempted to come out with some sort of abuse like "i know who you are. like. and my da's in the uvf so he is. like. and i'm gonna find out where you live and get him to kneecap you. like" and decide to pre-empt this with a friendly warning.

very hard thread to follow this if galls man made the 'close associates' comment he deserved to be banned
if he didn't some one is doing a Character asassination.
Own up whos telling lies?

Again, these words wer not used. Chrisowc posted the exact quote in italics, and as mentioned my warning was issued as I had ventured personal information so as to convince of my genuine intentions.

I have no doubt that the original poster, wazza, is a 15 year old little fart who thinks he's hard as nails. I have no doubt that 99% of the OWC members would reject and widely condemn his remarks if they were made all over again. My disgust and indignation came from the fact that a senior OWC member, Sickboy, decided to somehow use the issue of teen suicide in working class republican areas to socre cheap political points. This criticism was flat out rejected and I was dismissed offhand. From there I somehow let myself het dragged into a political debate, largely concerning the political status of the GAA and certain clubs naming themselves after formoer IRA/INLA men such as Kevin Lynch.

Then, after clearly and articulately making my points and trying to understand the perspectives of others I was banned.

Then you said that any attempt to label you as terrorist would be taken very seriously by you and your 'close associates'.

I mentioned nothing about being labelled as a terrorist.

I mentioned nothing of the sort about "close associates"- in my mind this implies some shady link (perhaps Provo related) which I flat out rejected from the off and anyone who knows me would laugh at the thought of it. I was merely pointing out that OWC, like most forums has it's minority of gobshites who would surely jump at the chance to launch a personal assault from the safety of a laptop and I was advising them to choos their words carefully as I had ventured personal information in the hope of convincing them that my post was genuine, not an attempt to flame/troll.

Don't let this thread turn into a "get nifan" affair. I agree with practically eveything he writes on this site. Fearon is as bad as any of the infamous OWC ones and everybody on this board knows it.

That fecker alan greene talks about "we" as well.

I met him before the england game at windsor and asked him who he was supporting - he said "straight down the middle".

Hmmm, I'd be more tolerant of Terry than Alan Greene alright. Maybe it's the dry cynicism, or the fact that he keeps that smug fecker Chris Moyles secodn in the ratings!

Why was he play for tipp? What was he doing in NY?

I hope he doesnt get an all star, it'll movitate him to improve his already amazing game

I doubt Joe needs some dodgily awarded token to let him know he's a genius.

....and when he had his Talksport 'drive time' slot he talked endlessly about England as 'we'.

Aye, but so does Terry Wogan during Eurovision and you surely ye wouldn't want to claim him now, would you?! (Not implying that you or other generic OWCers consider themselves English)

I've always had time for you on this board and whilst not always agreeing with you opinions on certain matters, I have at least tried to understand your perspective and have been more than happy to engage in reasoned debate. On top of that, I've frequently defended you in Fearon's crusading threads.

Reading a thread on OWC yesterday, I decided to post for the first time in a long, long time. The thread was about the sight of Northern Ireland tops popping up in unexpected places such as Ballymurphy and Twinbrook. Everything was nice and dandy and people mentioned that GAA tops could also be seen in unexpected places these days and that hoefully this was a sign that times really are changing. However, some tosspot from Cregagh decided to mention that he found it "repulsing" (sic) to see people living near him wearing GAA tops. This statement was widely condemned as it was generally interpreted that what you man was trying to say was "I don't want any taigs living near me", a viewpoint reinforced by his later statement "so what if a am a biggot" (again, sic, he wasn't that bright). However, one of your moderators/admins, Sickboy, decided to weigh into the debate and mention that due to hs family history in the troubles he too found the sight of GAA tops "repulsing" as the first thing he thought of were clubs named after convicted IRA/INLA men such as Kevin Lynch. However he went on to attempt to score cheap political points by bringing in issues such as Sinn Fein, and somehow, the current issue of teen suicide in places like Ballymurphy and Ardoyne.

I pulled him on this immediately (I doubt he even knows as his post was over a year ago) and pointed out that it was cheap, sickening and disgraceful to drag an issue such as teen suicide into the equation. Of course, the usual dismissal of my post as some sort of "mock indignation" or "feigned concern" arrived quickly enough, and then the topic got dragged into a GAA vs. IFA, "we endorse terrorism/we don't debate". My points and rebuttals were made both politely and articulately, and I was addressing everyone's question in turn, and was happy to continue to do so. However I decided that it would be wise to point out (due to the minority of mouthpieces on the OWC board who would have no interest in debate, but merely give me abuse or call me "IRA supporting scum") that any sort of personal abuse directed against me or my close associates would be taken very seriously. BANG! In comes your Commander-In-Chief and asks me was I making a threat agaisnt the board. I believe my response was something along the lines of "I'd call it friendly advice" and that I thought the days of anyone dissenting getting slapped with an immediate ban were over. Apparently not, as my account has been temporarily suspended and I won't be free to continue the discussion untilm oh let's see, the 5th of may, 2011....

Clear, concise and articulate. Free of point scoring or abuse. Yet I still get banned? Like I said, I thought those days were over. I had grudging respect for certain OWC posters who stay away from this board, but alas no more. A shocking display of intolerance. I really hope this isn't a view shared by the majority of the "other side".

We always tend to go for puns on film or song titles, or lines from films.

"No **** for old men" is a frequent one.

Won the Devenish quiz lat night with "you blabbed Quaid, you blabbed about Mars". Extra points to whoever can name the film it's from!

Well laoislad you don't have R plates so you can't comment on them but basically they are a waste of time so technically I was going 4.99mph over the spped limit so come on like the amount of people I have seen overtaking me when I am doing roughly 60 and who fly away on past me and they stop people doing a few mph over the speed limit?!  And more to the point why aren't they out in my local town stopping people selling drugs to children, stopping wee lads from raking round the town in the middle of the night etc etc...so yes, they should be doing something more useful with their time.

Bollocks, there's no technically about. An R Plate limit is 45mph, therefore you were 20 over the limit. POints and a fine are the least you should have got.