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#61
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
January 15, 2022, 04:10:15 PM
Donaghy and McKearney were very good when they came on I thought.
#62
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
January 12, 2022, 09:29:01 AM
Quote from: W.A.G. Lover on January 12, 2022, 09:23:58 AM
Quote from: on the sideline on January 12, 2022, 01:28:00 AM
Quote from: delgany on January 11, 2022, 07:25:02 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on January 11, 2022, 07:06:33 PM
If Aghyaran are successful in any form of appeal it will open a can of worms in Division 2. If the lad concerned played against any other team and those games had a direct bearing on the teams relegated (which it's bound to if he did play) they will also appeal I'm sure. Could be about to get very messy if true.

Or County Biard will just dismiss any appeals knowing the shit show that could follow...

There is a 3 day time limit on objections based on the validity of a team.

I was basing my reply of Tyrone11234s post. If what you're saying is true then that's that, too late to do anything about any indiscretion now.

So basically any club can break any of the rules and hope that the opposing club does not report them within 3 days?
They done it more than once and knew what they were doing!
So much for a club's integrity when that is their approach!

The U17 rule is ridiculous anyway and I'm sure that most Clubs in the county will have played/subbed on lads that age throughout the league (senior or reserve).

If the clubs involved weren't bothered at the time, then it makes sense that they shouldn't be allowed to object now just because greencastle won the league.
#63
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
January 10, 2022, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: clubman21 on January 10, 2022, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: GlenMan on January 10, 2022, 01:13:31 PM
Quote from: clubman21 on January 10, 2022, 12:45:56 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on January 10, 2022, 12:39:50 PM
Quote from: Tyrone2021 on January 10, 2022, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 09, 2022, 08:57:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 09, 2022, 07:31:10 PM
You'd imagine a very second string will play this first game?

Has to be. A few senior players didn't attend the trip, McCurry, Pete Harte, Paul Donaghy jump to mind
You'd imagine they will start along with the newcomers who played the charity game v Armagh.
Paudie McNulty could be available too.

Up to 11 subs allowed so I'd guess some more familiar faces will be introduced to the game as it goes on.

Cormac Munroe did not attend either. Paul donaghy has left the squad.

Why is donaghy away?
Understandable, season of a lifetime followed by not much football the following year.

Yeah but the 'following year' included winning an Ulster Championship, winning a Celtic Cross and playing in Croke Park in the AI final. Not exactly a bad year.
By no means a bad year but from a personal point of view, i'd imagine he values the medal which he contributed to in the way he did more. Believe management have told students to play for Universities in McKenna cup so more familiar faces on show tomorrow and less debutants you'd think.

Universities aren't in the McKenna Cup?
#64
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
January 10, 2022, 01:13:31 PM
Quote from: clubman21 on January 10, 2022, 12:45:56 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on January 10, 2022, 12:39:50 PM
Quote from: Tyrone2021 on January 10, 2022, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 09, 2022, 08:57:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 09, 2022, 07:31:10 PM
You'd imagine a very second string will play this first game?

Has to be. A few senior players didn't attend the trip, McCurry, Pete Harte, Paul Donaghy jump to mind
You'd imagine they will start along with the newcomers who played the charity game v Armagh.
Paudie McNulty could be available too.

Up to 11 subs allowed so I'd guess some more familiar faces will be introduced to the game as it goes on.

Cormac Munroe did not attend either. Paul donaghy has left the squad.

Why is donaghy away?
Understandable, season of a lifetime followed by not much football the following year.

Yeah but the 'following year' included winning an Ulster Championship, winning a Celtic Cross and playing in Croke Park in the AI final. Not exactly a bad year.
#65
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
January 05, 2022, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: W.A.G. Lover on January 05, 2022, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: GKunion on January 05, 2022, 03:27:57 PM
Quote from: Ancharraig123 on January 05, 2022, 02:06:16 PM
Any truth in Aghyaran making an appeal to county board over greencastle allegedly playing an under age player in a senior league game?
Not 100% sure on the rule for age going into a senior team. A player who is either still minor or not long out of it played part in the last league game vs Kildress from what I've heard. Be interesting to see how it fairs out if true but don't think Greencastle would have played him if that was the case

Below from GAA Official Guide (Unless Tyrone have a separate By-Law which is unlikely).
"6.17 Age Grades
CLUB
Adult:
A Player shall have celebrated his 17th birthday prior to January 1st of the Championship Year.

Penalties:
For breach of upper Age limit:
(i) Team Penalty:
On a Proven Objection – Award of Game to Opposing Team.
On an Inquiry by the Committee-in-Charge - Forfeiture of
Game without Award to the Opposing Team.
(ii) Player:
For breach in Under 16 or Younger Grades – 4 weeks
Suspension.
For breach in Minor or Under 21 Grades – 24 weeks
Suspension.
(iii) Person(s)-in-Charge of the Team in which the
breach is committed – 48 weeks Suspension.
(iv) Chairperson and Secretary of a Club:
For breach in Minor or Under 21 Grades – 48 weeks
Suspension.
For Breach of lower Age Limit:
(i)Team Penalty:
On a Proven Objection – Award of Game to Opposing Team.
On an Inquiry by the Committee-in-Charge – Forfeiture of
Game without Award to the Opposing Team.
(ii) Player: For breach in any Grade – 2 weeks Suspension.
(iii) Person(s)-in-Charge of the Team in which the
breach is committed – 8 weeks Suspension. "


By my understanding, if the lad played minor football (u17) in 2021, then he is not eligible to play senior football in 2021.
County Board have a big decision to make here - Whatever their decision, it will surely set a precedent.

Surely no decision to make

It's well past the appeal window (3 days I think?) and as far as I know other clubs can't appeal the result of a game not involving them
#66
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
December 13, 2021, 11:11:39 AM
Quote from: kickitin on December 13, 2021, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: GlenMan on December 13, 2021, 10:49:55 AM
Quote from: kickitin on December 13, 2021, 10:42:17 AM
michelle cox was at the aghyaran game with the div 2 league trophy

very very embarrassing on the county board side of things

In what way was it embarrasing? If Aghyaran won, they had to be there to give them the trophy?

Greencastle were presented with the trophy an hour or so later when results became clear.

but if aghyaran lost and greencastle won, they had to be there to give them the trophy too?

if greencastle were presented with the trophy an hour later, why could they not have held back on the trophy being at either game?

You can't be in two places at once so the obvious thing is to play the odds.

You may as well be at one game with a 50:50 chance than not being at any games.
#67
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
December 13, 2021, 10:49:55 AM
Quote from: kickitin on December 13, 2021, 10:42:17 AM
michelle cox was at the aghyaran game with the div 2 league trophy

very very embarrassing on the county board side of things

In what way was it embarrasing? If Aghyaran won, they had to be there to give them the trophy?

Greencastle were presented with the trophy an hour or so later when results became clear.
#68
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
December 10, 2021, 09:56:48 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on December 10, 2021, 06:22:24 PM
I see the Errigal vs. Carrickmore league game for Sunday is now postponed. Anyone know why?

Eire Og are playing in Ulster and several dual players involved. Just a coincidence regarding the timing of the appeal.
#69
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
November 26, 2021, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: Under Lights on November 26, 2021, 05:41:52 AM
Quote from: clarshack on November 25, 2021, 10:49:54 PM
Good chance of walkovers in the final round. What happens then if more than 2 teams finish in the last relegation spot? Playoffs in January?

Decided in this order:
Head to Head
Score Difference
Scores FOR

Score difference and scores for don't come into play if there's been any walkovers/games conceded. It goes to a playoff in that case.
#70
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
November 25, 2021, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on November 25, 2021, 06:41:43 PM
Quote from: Under Lights on November 25, 2021, 06:26:50 PM
Leagues have been pushed out a week due to Ulster.
Division 2 now ends on 12th December and Division 1 on 19th
Ever hear worse?

The end date for Div 1 on the fixture plan was always 19th December?
#71
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
November 20, 2021, 02:47:43 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on November 19, 2021, 04:57:02 PM
Quote from: WT4E on November 19, 2021, 01:23:38 PM
Quote from: GaelTheGael on November 18, 2021, 04:56:21 PM
Quote from: Ancharraig123 on November 17, 2021, 05:14:37 PM
Moortown are a good young side however I think division 1 next year will be too much for them
The year in Senior will stand to them in 1B in 2023. The same will go with all the teams that go down from Senior rather than the 6 that will come up from Intermediate.

I'd say the biggest benefit for Moortown going up will be keeps them away from an intermediate relegation fight next year in what will be an absolute dogfight with the teams coming down and up. Be a long year for Moortown next year.
With the restructure there will be no relegation in Intermediate next year. Just the bottom 10 being joined by the Junior League and Championship winners.

What makes you think that there's going to be a restructure?
#72
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
November 17, 2021, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: smort on November 17, 2021, 03:45:15 PM
I hope Moortown go far, they have been very impressive in the 2nd half of the season, but I do feel that the standard of intermediate football in Tyrone is lower this year than in previous years due to no relegation last season. Will be interesting to see how they fair in Ulster now

I'd also say that this year was much more reflective of the actual level Intermediate teams are at - in a good way. Without any of the yo-yo 'Senior' quality teams, the competition was more balanced than previous years. No Edendork or Galbally to dominate the league/championship.
#73
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
November 16, 2021, 09:52:51 AM
Another damaging article in the IN this morning: https://www.irishnews.com/paywall/tsb/irishnews/irishnews/irishnews//sport/gaafootball/2021/11/16/news/kicking-out-we-re-supposed-to-be-better-than-what-tyrone-have-done-2508828/content.html

County pro Eugene McConnell defending the prices rises whilst the cost of living soars and use of food banks increases is just asinine. Surely his position is untenable now?!
#74
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
November 10, 2021, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on November 10, 2021, 08:52:48 PM
Michael Kerr needs to be tonight considering his position, alongside the county treasurer. For any chairman to oversee a charge to young u16 children to see their club side participate in a club final is scandalous.

Success is often the breeding ground for success. To put up a barrier to young people witnessing championship glory is unforgivable.

Watch them U Turn quicker than a Tory government.

Clubs should not forget this come convention time and voting a new chairperson if anyone stands against him.

I've seen this thrown about a lot today. AFAIK, there has always been a small charge for stand tickets at the county final for U16. Admission to the terrace is still free for U16. Lets get some perspective instead of jumping on the bandwagon.
#75
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
November 06, 2021, 05:32:11 PM
Quote from: smort on November 06, 2021, 02:05:25 PM
Watched a lot of games over the last couple of seasons but I'll not be purchasing the junior final at £13. Think they are putting the hand in there

It was £13 for double headers over past couple of weeks; £13 for a standalone fixture is too much

The price for the TV has been £1 more than the gate price throughout. So the same applies for the junior final.