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Skull best not to think of that one or you will end up rocking back and forth in a padded cell

Sure going by the papers and tv he was ready for the big stage and it wouldnt phase him playing in croke.

Do we think S&W will stay on after some of the reports earlier in the week?

Can someone post up the article that Loughnane did in the Irish Star on saturday, I didnt see it but i think he was very tough on the squad.

The league as we know is poor enough but in my mind these players should be dominating their own clubs and should be the main men and driving force for their teams. Even in a bad league good players should be standing out and putting back to back performances in for their clubs, however there seems to be an attitude that the county players are too good to play in the league games. In the matches I have seen so far this year it would trouble anyone to pick out the county players from club games.

Skull dont get me wrong I wasnt putting any preconditions on the question or on your answer and I take your answer the way it was meant.

But that is part of my point that very few of the boys have actually proved themselves in club hurling let alone county hurling to have some of the ego's that they have.

Shorty unproven at this level and Winker serious complete lack of committment and wasnt on the panel skull.

Seriously hatchfield where do you come to that conclusion that they are doing a good job? where is your evidence?

Im just curious as to who apart from Ciaran Heron and maybe Pinkie would have made any difference of those that were missing?

Lads,

I think the summary of the game has been quite fair. It was always going to be a balancing act of bringing paddy out the field any ball that he did play in wasnt sticking because we have no ball winners in that area. The problem is your robbing peter to pay paul, as paddy is a good target man on his day but then who would have been playing the ball in.

The defence worked hard but god did we look pedestrian at times? CmcG in the corner seemed more intent on hitting 'late' with the body that actually making a block on the ball a number of time he could have robbed the forward but wasnt interested in the ball. NmcG is a committed hurler but he doesnt have the raw pace or the hurling for this level. Graffin looked at ease in this company and again showed he is our leading defender and maybe hurler over all. CD is too slow for centre back and doesnt actually seem to have the positional sense either. The two wing men hurled well at times but I would also say that their men did quite alot of hurling too.

Im honestly not sure where to go now with this team, this nonsense of now having 25 committed hurlers for the next manager to take on, as if there havent been that in other squads up to now. Again I look back to Dinny and you will know I am no fan but he had the team at a different level of intensity and pace in our hurling one that we can only dream of now.

Seems that way at least it is a progression from the Tyrone job, what was that shout about jobs for the boys? 

MR I hear what you are saying and appreciate it but I think you will find that when it comes out in the wash that it wasnt a matter of the two of them going mano v mano for the job!

Skull

You have hit the nail on the head NA are suffering for being organised and being effective and now they are being punished for be successful in that. All the developments driven forward and replicated in SA have come from the same place. It is a shame that people ride the coat tails of others in our organisation but this has been the way of it for far too many years with the wrong people being rewarded for it!

I dont think it should be personal slating match but there is something that just does not feel right about the appointment.

Anyway we can get back to this and no doubt we will.

Predictions for sundays game - I have stated the fact that I am worried about this game.

Two scenario's - Antrim good start tight game could go either way
                       Dublin good start white wash on the cards.

Straightforward answer is that KMcG is responsible for the whole county and has been for the last number of years. SE is responsible for the SW and NA regions.

One man was doing the work and one is a paid Kitman and Liasion for the county hurling team. Make your own mind up.

James different issue altogether.

Still have yet to see our HDO anywhere in NA at a hurling game and thats after three years of already being in the post?

Ladies Gaelic is her background just what we need to drive the Two main sports in our county forward.

I agree with most of what has been said lads. We have a sever lack of pace and the only way to crack that is to crowd the game out and make it mesy but i still think Dublin could take us in that kind of game.

Paddy is a miss in the forward line but will depend if they expect him to mark his man while covering the half back line or whether they give dublin an extra defender while pulling SD out to mark paddys man. If it is the former we are in bother and if it is the latter we are still in bother not just so much!